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carpediem
February 26, 2007, 06:12 PM
I've seen the CMP stuff on Garand parts and all...my question is, if I get a barreled receiver and plan to put a synthetic stock on it, is there a "parts kit" I can buy for the other non-stock related parts or do I have to buy them one by one?

Will I get nicer parts this way? Or would I be better off buying a rack grade woodless Garand and having a smith replace the barrel?

Thanks

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Koobuh
February 26, 2007, 06:37 PM
Getting a Service Grade barreled receiver and a Rack Grade complete rifle is probably your best bet if you want it done right-now. Swap the parts and stock to the SG and you'll (theoretically) have a better rifle.

Hogfan1911
February 26, 2007, 06:38 PM
Had the same idea you did, get one of the barrelled receivers and assemble my own gun with a parts kit. Numrich Gun Parts has such a kit listed on their website, everything but the receiver, already partially assembled. One problem: it's been out of stock for months, and they don't anticipate getting any more anytime soon. Anybody else know of any other places to find one?

Neo-Luddite
February 26, 2007, 07:07 PM
Ebay--but they are too much $$$. Get the rack grade for now. The parts kits stopped being cheap a few years back. 395 for a working and complete weapon is a great start. You will need the metal parts from the stock even if you are discarding it. Rebarrel it if needed. You can regas it later if needed, and repark if you feel the urge.

Garand internals usually don't fall apart very easily unless the weapon was backyard smithed by a mo-mo. The Barrel and Gas Systems wear out eventually and that's just the nature of the breed.

Parts are going through the frikin' roof on M-1's--there's no cheaper way and this *IS* the best way to start for my money.

carpediem
March 1, 2007, 10:59 PM
1. Could one hypothetically take a Service Grade barreled receiver and swap it with the barreled receiver from a complete rack grade Garand safely and without being a gunsmith or machinist (but not a raging idiot either)?

2. Say that's doable. What's a rough estimate of what the resulting rack grade barreled receiver might be worth (it would definitely have to be sold to offset the cost of the project)?

Thanks all

Andras
March 1, 2007, 11:50 PM
1. Could one hypothetically take a Service Grade barreled receiver and swap it with the barreled receiver from a complete rack grade Garand safely and without being a gunsmith or machinist (but not a raging idiot either)?

Easily, you essentially have to do just that when you clean it anyway.

uriel
March 2, 2007, 03:58 PM
I have a Service Grade Garand that I ordered a Ram-Line stock for, and I will finally get to it (!) next week. I'm curious if anyone has already done this and what the weight difference is, if any, between wood and synthetic when finished. The Garand weighed, what, 9-9.5 pounds originally? I have no idea what a synthetic stock weighs, or what the original furniture weighs alone. Might make it easier to carry in the woods.

carpediem
March 2, 2007, 05:54 PM
Uriel,

Do you happen to know if any of this stock-related hardware:

handguards, rear handguard band, front handguard spacer, front handguard ferrule, buttplate, buttplate screws, stock ferrule, stock ferrule screw, stock ferrule swivel, butt swivel

Is needed with the Ramline stock? Because otherwise a woodless CMP rack grade would be awfully tempting.

Thanks

SigfanUSAF
March 2, 2007, 07:28 PM
You'll need to buy all the hardware for the RamLine stock. Stock hardware sets on Ebay are going for $50 to $75 for everything.

boxcab
March 18, 2007, 04:04 PM
According to the Ram-line instructions the only parts required for a woodless are the rear handgaurd band and the stock ferrule swivel if you have a complete reciever and barrel assembly.


-Boxcab

NC-Mike
March 18, 2007, 05:42 PM
A lot of folks on the CMP forum say a Service Grade barreled receiver, new stock and a Greek rack grade for parts gets you a real nice M1 for 800.00

You could then sell the old stock and barreled receiver from the rack grade on eBay and God only knows how much you'll get from it to reduce your cost.

Other people have been requesting a Greek with good wood, (good luck) and buying the Service Grade barreled receiver and foregoing the new stock for a 700.00 M1 that could be pretty nice.

I recently bought a Greek Rack Grade and it was a big project and a lot of work. Came from CMP with a busted safety, trigger that would only work sometimes and a seized up clip latch pin that broke 2 punches before coming loose. The stock wasn't even fit for firewood and the trapdoor in the butt-plate looked like someone had dipped it in cement. CMP did send me a new safety, clip latch and pin no-charge.

The H&R M1 I bought a month ago for 800.00 at the local pawn is sweet and was good to go. The days of getting a nice Garand out of the CMP is rapidly dwindling down.

M110
March 18, 2007, 05:59 PM
Doug is good people...


http://www.dougsstockpile.com/index.html

ScottsGT
March 19, 2007, 08:45 AM
You could then sell the old stock and barreled receiver from the rack grade on eBay and God only knows how much you'll get from it to reduce your cost.


No, you cannot sell a barreled receiver on E-bay. It is the same as selling a complete rifle.
Besides, the CMP has pulled all woodless Danes from the South Store due to the barrage of mail in orders. The gut feeling is that even if you sent an order in today, you would get bumped to rack grade for an additional $100.

NC-Mike
March 19, 2007, 09:02 AM
Yep, you're right, realized that late last night. No receivers on eBay.

Sorry to see they pulled the woodless from the South store. I think panic has set in. I have 2 Garands and I'm going to have to be happy with them. I wish I had bought a couple more when they were practically giving them away.

ScottsGT
March 19, 2007, 09:26 AM
I had bought a couple more when they were practically giving them away.

The good old days of the CMP are long gone.....
I sent an order in last Tuesday, and on Thursday when the South Store opened, they had been pulled off the shelves. I'm hoping they can at least get my order filled. Even though, at $100 more for a rack grade, it's still not that bad. With the woodless I still have to drop $40 on stock metal and still buy a stock. The racker might have a usable stock. The beauty to the woodless rifles is that they are packed full of valuable parts. I just got an original March of '43 receiver with the original barrel and an uncut op rod. Took it out Sat. and put 80 rounds thru it. Not the most precision shooting, but it was all on the paper. Not bad for a barrel that old. (used a different op rod)
That one is for my oldest son. He'll get it in a couple of years when he turns 18. My woodless on order is for my 11 year old. He'll get it in 7 more years.
Shoppin' early to get the good deals!

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