[MarineTech]

Well, it finally happened. I've had my first squib load in 23 years I've been shooting.

I've got a pair of CZ52s that I picked up last year. Great guns for plinking and making noise with, and they're one of the only service semiautos that I know of that makes all the T/C Contender and Encore shooters look up from the firing line when you start sending rounds down range. Yes folks, for those of you that have never tried the 7.62X25 round, it's LOUD. A cute little .30caliber 85 grain bullet stepping right along at 1650fps and everybody in the vicinity knows it went off. I use the CZ52s for just making noise and letting off steam at the range.

Anywhooo, a friend gave me a box of 20 old Eastern European surplus ammo that he happened to have left over when he sold his Tokarev. I normally shoot S&B, but I figured what the heck. I'd give it a try.

Should have known there was trouble when I started getting mildly varying reports and recoil from the stuff on the first magazine. But, I'm kind of phobic about coming back from the range with ammo so I loaded up another magazine and had at it. BOOM, BOOM, CRACK, BOOM, pif .......

Pif? Pif? My gun's supposed to go BOOM, not pif.

Sure enough, squib load with the bullet lodged in the barrel. Took the 52 apart and pounded the bullet out with a dowel. It was maybe 3/4" down the barrel. Said the heck with the rest of the ammo. Pulled the bullets and dumped the powder (Sorry, don’t have headstamp info to reference, I dumped it all at the range). Guess I'll stick with S&B or Winchester ammo from now on.

[George Hill]

I'm glad you had the mind not to pull the trigger again.

Good use of the grey matter to check the barrel.

Squibs happen. I had one in the Army during basic. I had one from a box of handloads.

[Coronach]

Had a squib a while ago in my Sig P232. It is quite a jarring experience.

Obviously, not nearly as jarring as it could be if you pulled the trigger a second time.

Mike :eek:

[WonderNine]

How could you pull the trigger again? The squib had enough power to cycle the slide?

[CZ-75]

I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that even primered cases can cycle.

[WonderNine]

How is that possible? Are you saying there's enough energy in a primer to cycle a gun? Something sounds wrong here....

[Triad]

I don't think they can. There are those rubber bullets that you load into primed cases, those won't cycle the action. There is that Swedish training ammo with the plastic bullets and that won't cycle in semi auto pistols either. I guess it would depend on how powerful the primer is and how far down the bore the bullet goes.

I think the danger in semi auto pistols is with rounds that have an insufficient powder charge that will cycle the action but won't expel the bullet from the bore.

[George Hill]

Yeah, they can. Sqibs can do freaky things.

[Coronach]

Wondernine,

Malfunction drills should become second nature. If your gun jams, the first thing you should do is clear it instictively and get back in the fight.

However.

This is one instance where doing that could be, ah, problematic.

:what:

Mike

[Destructo6]

Anybody see this MP5 barrel from Gunhead's post over at HKPRO?

http://web.axelero.hu/szlejer2/squib.jpg

[blue86buick]

OMG, what happened to that gun? Not being familiar with the MP5 (except from counterstrike and tac ops ;)), I can't tell which end is the breech and which is the muzzle....so i can't even guess what happened.

[CZ-75]

How is that possible? Are you saying there's enough energy in a primer to cycle a gun? Something sounds wrong here....

I should've said primered case w/ bullet seated, otherwise the gas would just escape. It's gas expansion that would provide enough force to cycle.



The left end of the MP-5 barrel appears to be the muzzle end, as the right is reinforced to mount into the receiver.

[Skyviking]

Appears we're looking down the barrel from L-R. Likely had a squib load that made it 3/4 the way down the bbl, then got hammered further down by the subsequent rounds until the barrel - aah.... got filled up.

[Dorian]

Yep... That's THIRTEEN rounds in that MP5 barrel.

its cut in half......

[WonderNine]

n/m

[Destructo6]

The concensus over at HKPRO is that this is the result of a destructive test. Bulge/no break is a good thing.