What do you carry in your .45acp?


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ArkansasFatboy
February 27, 2007, 11:29 PM
Guys I have been trying out different defense loads in my .45 and was wondering what you carry and why?

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Ala Dan
February 27, 2007, 11:31 PM
200 grain Hornady T.A.P. JHP's

threefeathers
February 27, 2007, 11:32 PM
Taurus Hex all copper 185 grain.

GreenFurniture
February 27, 2007, 11:34 PM
230 grain Remington Golden Saber for 5" 1911

185 grain Federal (forgot what they are) for P220

grizz
February 27, 2007, 11:55 PM
185g Federal Hydrashock +P.

$18/ 50.

Condition Plaid
February 27, 2007, 11:59 PM
Winchester Ranger T 230gr

DogBonz
February 28, 2007, 12:03 AM
In my HD gun, 230 Hydra Shocks. When I'm in the woods, Remi 185 +P HP's.

Kimber1911_06238
February 28, 2007, 12:05 AM
230 grain hydra shocks....or speer gold dots

daysleeprx
February 28, 2007, 12:06 AM
230g Golden Sabers for my 1911s, OR 230g WWB JHP.

The GS because I got a great deal on them, the WWB because it's cheap and readily available locally.

Dgreno
February 28, 2007, 12:14 AM
+1 for the hydrashocks

fencer1960
February 28, 2007, 12:24 AM
230 gr. and 165 gr. Hydra-Shoks, whichever is available. Hydra-Shok is the brand the local police use. I think one of the gunwriters, Ayoob maybe, has suggested that this might be a good strategy to avoid accusations of brutal overkill from an excited prosecutor... in the unlikely event you have to shoot an assailant.

GunNut
February 28, 2007, 12:48 AM
Given a choice I would carry Winchester Ranger in all of my guns.

These are the recommended loads for service weapons on the Tactical Forums:

.45 ACP:
Barnes XPB 185 gr JHP (copper bullet)
Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal Tactical 230 gr JHP (LE45T1)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP (23966)
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr +P JHP (RA45TP)

MICHAEL T
February 28, 2007, 12:56 AM
Corbon 165 gr DPX NON +P compact . I find the DPX does all I need and very fast recovery It in all my 45 Commanders and 5" also.

BobCav
February 28, 2007, 01:01 AM
Speer GoldDot 230gr JHP

thumper723
February 28, 2007, 01:14 AM
Remington UMC 230gr JHPs.

Yes, the ones from Wal-Mart.

It's a 45. If it does not expand, it is still starting from .451 vs .355

Also, I can afford to practice with my carry round, and proving new mags with it is not cost prohibitive..

jfernett119
February 28, 2007, 01:16 AM
185gr +p hydra shoks. I have hydra shoks in all my carry pistols and my gun likes them.

cmannie
February 28, 2007, 02:21 AM
I like the COR BON 200 grain +P...
Viscious round...

sm
February 28, 2007, 02:31 AM
Often times 230gr hardball.

Also a fan of 200 gr LSWC.

Tezcatlipoca
February 28, 2007, 02:33 AM
Winchester Ranger T 230gr

CWL
February 28, 2007, 02:35 AM
5" barrel 230gr Remmy Golden Sabers

3" barrel 185gr Remmy Golden Sabers

Also use Pro-Load 200gr Gold Dots on occasion

Todesengel
February 28, 2007, 02:56 AM
Remington Golden Saber Bonded 230gr because it makes big holes. :)

Walkalong
February 28, 2007, 09:33 AM
Speer 200 Gr. Gold Dot +P in a 3" barrel CDP II..

I could be happy with the 230 Gr. Golden Sabers or either the 200 or 230 Gr. XTP's as they are excellent also and feed 100% in my pistol as well.

1911 guy
February 28, 2007, 09:44 AM
If you'd asked this question a month ago, I'd have said Golden Sabers. They've been getting hard to find around here, so I ran a few boxes of HydraShocks through my 1911 and switched to those, 230gr.

Mad Magyar
February 28, 2007, 09:45 AM
I still like the heavier bullet and seems to work well with my .45's.
PMC Eldorado-StarFire 230gr. JHP's....

texagun
February 28, 2007, 09:49 AM
Jeff Cooper and Clint Smith have both been quoted numerous times as saying they only carry 230 gr. hardball loads in their carry guns. When asked why, both had the same answer.......reliability.

TireFryer
February 28, 2007, 10:57 AM
230 grain Remington Golden Saber JHP
230 grain Speer Gold Dot JHP
230 grain Winchester SXT JHP

spyderdude
February 28, 2007, 11:15 AM
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr.

Steve H
February 28, 2007, 11:23 AM
Gold Dot 230's here but the case cracking thing I had with the last box has me a bit leary. Thinking about going to the Cor Bon with the Barnes XPB bullet in it.

Father Knows Best
February 28, 2007, 11:33 AM
Jeff Cooper and Clint Smith have both been quoted numerous times as saying they only carry 230 gr. hardball loads in their carry guns. When asked why, both had the same answer.......reliability.
You should NEVER carry anything that is not 100% reliable. I won't load my carry gun with any ammo that I have not tested extensively in MY gun under hard conditions -- dirty, cold, hot, limp-wristed, sideways, upside down, etc. If I can induce feed or ejection jams -- and I try really hard! -- that ammo is out of the question for carry purposes.

That said(tm), sometimes a 1911 needs just a little work to run perfectly reliably with hollowpoint ammo. I have a couple of Para Ordnance 1911s that have never hiccuped at all (following break-in, of course) on hollow points or wadcutters. On the other hand, I have a Colt that didn't like hollow points at first, but I had a good 'smith polish the feed ramp and make some other minor adjustments, and it's now just as reliable as my Paras. That Colt (a CCO Gunsite model) has now replaced the Para CCW and Glock 26 as my primary carry gun, because it has passed every reliability test I have put it through using my preferred .45ACP carry ammo -- Winchester Ranger T 230 grain JHP "Law Enforcement Only" ammo (Winchester RA45T).

By the way, you should also be just as picky about your magazines. Nothing contributes to jams in a 1911 as much as magazines. Get some good ones, test them extensively, and then use those and ONLY those magazines for your carry gun. Grabbing "any old mag" and slamming it in your 1911 can be a sure-fire way to make your 1911 choke when you need it most.

bakert
February 28, 2007, 11:54 AM
Right now I'm carrying the Win XST hollow points but like a few other posters I also agree with the idea of 230 gr hardball. It works in almost all guns and as Jeff Cooper once wrote " failure to stop is rare":uhoh:

P0832177
February 28, 2007, 01:05 PM
Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal Tactical 230 gr JHP (LE45T1)
Both work well for me! Just hard to find!

Eyesac
February 28, 2007, 01:19 PM
230gr Speer Gold dots, used to carry Hydro's but the cone on the Speers just look nastier...:D

whited
February 28, 2007, 01:41 PM
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230 grain Remington Golden Saber JHP

me too.

candr44
February 28, 2007, 01:48 PM
I use Georgia Arms 185 grain hollow points. They are cheap enough that I can also use them as range ammo and they work well in my 3.5 inch barrel Bersa compact .45. Georgia Arms also has a +p .45 for a little more but I haven't tried it yet.

Viking88
February 28, 2007, 02:54 PM
Reminton Golden Saber 230gr.

mavracer
February 28, 2007, 03:04 PM
230 wwb or 230 rem umc dead solid reliable and shoot to poa w both mill spec springer and charles daly 1911:)

benelli12
February 28, 2007, 06:13 PM
Double tap ammo 230 grain, at 1010fps-5"

rantingredneck
February 28, 2007, 06:19 PM
Remington UMC 230gr JHPs.

Yes, the ones from Wal-Mart.

It's a 45. If it does not expand, it is still starting from .451 vs .355

Also, I can afford to practice with my carry round, and proving new mags with it is not cost prohibitive..

Yes indeedy. This is my carry and HD ammo. Deadly reliable and accurate and I can afford to practice with it. The picture below is 8 rounds at 7 yards slowfire:

http://www.rantingredneck.com/evolution/media/P90 5 mag closeup1.JPG

This is 24 rounds, one mag at 7 one mag at 10 and one mag at 15 yards.

http://www.rantingredneck.com/evolution/media/P90 7-10-15.JPG

Gun is a stock Ruger P90.

nelson133
February 28, 2007, 06:21 PM
230 grain hardball, it is reliable and has 100 years of proof of it's effectiveness.

Chuck R.
February 28, 2007, 06:52 PM
I use Remington 230 grain Bonded Golden Saber HPs in my Carry and house .45s.

I duplicate it using bulk purchase Golden Saber bullets in reloads for practice/reliability tests.

Chuck

DC3-CVN-72
February 28, 2007, 10:00 PM
Remington Golden Saber 230gr. BJHP.

distra
February 28, 2007, 10:26 PM
230 gr Hornady XTP

gunmn74
February 28, 2007, 10:31 PM
Thats my vote:D

Pumpkinheaver
February 28, 2007, 10:50 PM
I'm not real picky about ammo in my .45, as long as it is reliably in my gun. Right now it is stoked with hornady 200gr JHPs. But I also carry WWB 230 JHP a lot and I am not afraid to carry hardball in it.

orionengnr
March 1, 2007, 12:00 AM
Currently, 230 gr Ranger +p, but looking at the CorBon DPX/Taurus Hex, both solid copper 185s.

jrfoxx
March 1, 2007, 07:14 AM
Speer GoldDot 230gr JHP--it's accurate out of my 1911, and all the gel and other testing i've seen on it, appears like it will be a good performer all around.Prior to these, it was 230gr hydrashocks (which I would still have no problem carrying, the golddot's just looked a little better in tests and on paper)

StrikeEagle
March 1, 2007, 08:34 AM
230 grain Hydrashocks.

They feed reliably, and they are have a pretty good track record.

Texas Colt
March 1, 2007, 08:59 AM
I use 230 gr. Speer Gold Dots for carry. I practice with the same bullet in a reload that matches the velocity of the factory stuff.

Crosscut
March 1, 2007, 12:48 PM
185 Gr. Fang Face Round from Extream Shock

DawgFvr
March 1, 2007, 01:07 PM
Corbon DPX all copper

1man
March 1, 2007, 02:07 PM
Federal HST 230gr.+P
Speer GD 200+P
Remington GS 185gr(alum. frame)

waiting to get rich so I can test Corbon DPX in all my 45's!

Todesengel
March 1, 2007, 03:39 PM
185 Gr. Fang Face Round from Extream Shock

you are the first person I know of that's actually using extreme shock.

Handgun Midas
March 1, 2007, 04:09 PM
Currently 3 full mags of 230 Golden Sabres.
But I've been known to throw some WWB in there as well.

loplop
March 1, 2007, 04:12 PM
I used to carry hardball mostly, but I have since switched to JHP. I settled on Hydra Shok 230 gr. It shoots very similar in my SIG P220 to the Blazer Brass I mostly practice with, and I am very accurate with the load.

I might look into the Hornady stuff, I really like the Hornady 147 gr. TAP in my SIG P239.

CajunBass
March 1, 2007, 04:17 PM
230 gr hardball. It worked for Alvin York.

AnthonyRSS
March 1, 2007, 05:09 PM
I carry whatever is left in my mags/gun when I leave the range.

200gr SWC, 230 LRN, 230gr FMJ. It doesn't matter. My gun would feed DEWCs if I could find them in .452. $1 a pop for the premium stuff is a wee bit much.

Anthony

roo_ster
March 1, 2007, 06:10 PM
5" 1911: Remington 230gr Golden Sabre
It is relaible and a premium HP. Accurate, too.

3" AMT DAO BU
WWB hardball 230gr FMJ
Reliable & I don't expect a 3" bbl to induce any expansion.

Crimp
March 1, 2007, 09:30 PM
Normally 230 gr hardball or 200 gr Hornady XTP/HP handloads.

bearmgc
March 1, 2007, 09:38 PM
Gold dots or UMC JHP, whichever I have on hand at the time.

GroovedG19
March 1, 2007, 10:25 PM
Winchester Ranger 230gr. +P

Dan the Man
March 1, 2007, 10:28 PM
Speer Gold Dot 200 gr +P in a 5" Colt MkIV series 70 and a 4" S&W 625

Regards
--Dan

10-Ring
March 1, 2007, 11:08 PM
Hydra Shoks simply because they haven't failed me in any caliber.

Greg8098
March 2, 2007, 03:34 AM
GLOCK 30 w/ 10+1 of 230 gr. JHP Gold Dots @ 1010 fps. from a 5 inch barrel. No they are not +p, they are DoubleTaps....even better IMO :cool: !!!

Geronimo45
March 2, 2007, 03:38 AM
Wolf steel-cased FMJ at this moment (shot off all but 10 rounds of my brass-cased stuff... it's all in the 10rd spare mag). It matches the park'd Springfield GI model pretty well, looks-wise.

davhina
March 2, 2007, 04:23 AM
Hydra Shoks simply because they haven't failed me in any caliber.
ditto
carry in my .45 and 9mm

Father Knows Best
March 2, 2007, 09:15 AM
Hydra Shoks simply because they haven't failed me in any caliber.
Well, HydraShoks haven't failed me, either, but neither has any other brand or type of ammo. That's because I've never had to shoot anyone, and God willing, I never will. So saying something "has never failed me" isn't much of a test.

I do carry HydaShoks in my Glock 26 (9mm), but not in my 1911's (.45ACP). In my 1911's, I go with the Winchester Ranger T 230 gr (RA45T) because: (1) some pretty extensive testing by the FBI and others concluded it was the best defensive .45ACP round, (2) it is one of the most widely used (if not THE most widely used) .45ACP rounds by police departments, and (3) it functions reliable in my pistols.

If I ever have to shoot someone with one of my .45's, I have confidence that the Winchesters won't fail me.

WmCC
March 2, 2007, 10:51 AM
Winchester RA45T. The best by far.

obxned
March 2, 2007, 04:53 PM
WWB 230g JHPfrom WallyWorld, but the FMJ's will still do the job!

Dreamer
March 2, 2007, 05:26 PM
:) 230 grain Remington Golden Saber JHP

FMJMIKE
March 3, 2007, 08:16 PM
230 grain FMJ....Like God intended !!!!:D

B52Wing
March 3, 2007, 08:41 PM
Federal HST JHP 230 gr +P

$17/50

g5reality
March 3, 2007, 08:58 PM
Federal Hydra Shock 230 grain

Hydra Shoks simply because they haven't failed me in any caliber

I agree

Polish_Pounder
March 5, 2007, 01:38 PM
Federal HydraShock 230gr in Winter.
Hornady TAP +P 230gr else (not quite the depth of penetration of the federals).

-Polish

Crosscut
March 6, 2007, 12:33 PM
I don't recomend them for everyday target shooting since you would need to take out a second mortgage to afford them, but to have for just in case, I like them.

Johnny Guest
March 6, 2007, 03:01 PM
I use: Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP

In: - - 1948-vintage Colt Government Model
- - - - Colt Commander
- - - - Colt OACP LW

Why: Before I retired, my agency issued our choice of GDHP or Winchester Ranger. My Colts were marginally more accurate with the GD. I began privately purchasing the same stuff and have been satisfied.

In fairness, the agency required that we carry JHP out of concern for possible overpenetration issues. I'd probably be equally satisfied with Golden Sabre, HydraShok, or XTP, if I spent the time to test them for reliability. Actually, I've never been unhappy with standard FMJ ammo. ;)

Best,
Johnny

SAG0282
March 10, 2007, 07:07 AM
200 gr +P Gold Dots

GCW5
March 10, 2007, 08:50 AM
230 gr Winchester SXT.

willis68
October 30, 2009, 09:43 PM
Remington Golden Sabre 230 Grain, I have several High end 1911's Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk Custom, Les Baer, every one of them has chocked with Hornady TAP FPD 230 grain, I love that ammo but I run at least 300 rounds of different carry ammo through a pistol before I will carry it. It runs fine in all until I get past 200 or so, I feed my Glock 21 that stuff. Federal P45HST1 has choked all of them after a couple of hundred rounds as well, The Remington Golden Sabre feeds fine through all of my 9 1911's and I have put at least 500 rounds of 230 Grain Golden saber through each of them and get excellent accuracy and 100 percent reliability with it that is why I will stick with it :)

surfinUSA
October 30, 2009, 09:52 PM
federal bonded tactical 230 gr +p. The fact that two old windbags (one of whom is dead) means nothing to me.

Might as well say George Washington used a Kentucky rifle.

kimberdad
October 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
Hornady 230 gr +p TAP FPD.

HexHead
October 30, 2009, 10:02 PM
230 gr. and 165 gr. Hydra-Shoks, whichever is available. Hydra-Shok is the brand the local police use. I think one of the gunwriters, Ayoob maybe, has suggested that this might be a good strategy to avoid accusations of brutal overkill from an excited prosecutor... in the unlikely event you have to shoot an assailant.
Nah, then the prosecutor will say you didn't have sufficient training to use the same hot load as a trained law enforcement officers.

An "excited prosecutor" will say anything he thinks he needs to, to try and make his case against you.

mljdeckard
October 30, 2009, 10:25 PM
Yep. If you use the ammo the cops use, you are trying to be a cop. If you don't, you are being unsafe for using something a cop wouldn't use. These are the hairs the lawyer will split when he is trying to nail you with a weak case.

I use 230 gr HSTs. But I think the real world difference between different JHPs or even 230 gr hardball for that matter is often very small. If your gun will cycle 200 rounds of a particular round error free, it is good enough to carry. ALL gun and ammo combinations will fail eventually.

bluecowdawg
October 30, 2009, 10:26 PM
230 grn golden sabres

fastbolt
October 30, 2009, 10:52 PM
I've used a number of different .45 ACP loads in my personally-owned and issued .45's over the years.

Most recently I've used either Remington's 230gr Golden Sabre or Winchester's 230gr T-series. Why?

Simple. Because they were both issued loads where I worked. I've carried others prior to them that were issued, too.

My immediate concerns are a good quality factory load using a good hollow point which provides for optimal functioning in my .45's, preferably one of the better 'premium' defensive rounds, given my druthers ... and getting consistently good hits on the intended target.

Doesn't matter who makes the load, or what bullet it uses, if it doesn't feed & function well in my .45's and I can't get the hits, though.

Clarence
October 31, 2009, 12:52 AM
I usually carry 230 grain HydraShocks, but I have carried hardball from time to time and would again.

BMF500
October 31, 2009, 01:09 AM
185gr Hydra Shoks

bdb benzino
October 31, 2009, 03:04 AM
200gr Gold Dot +p:evil:

Isher
October 31, 2009, 04:38 AM
230 grain ball, and to be quite honest,

Whichever brand doesn't seem to make much difference,

Although this might sound like heresy.

Then again, I'm running a CZ97B,

Which eats anything I put into it like a horse eats hay.

isher

Buckhannon
October 31, 2009, 08:50 PM
Black Talons...

DeepSouth
October 31, 2009, 10:10 PM
Speer GoldDot 230gr JHP

WRGADog
October 31, 2009, 10:55 PM
JHP or 230 grain Hydr Shok

mljdeckard
October 31, 2009, 11:54 PM
Buckhannon- You do realize that Black Talons were repackaged ad Rangers, and have no greater or lesser effect than any other premium JHP ammo? They were demonized for no reason, the idea that they are different from any other JHP ammo is anti-gun hype.

Have you run 200 of them error-free through your carry gun to verify reliability? Those cartridges are so old now, I wouldn't trust my life to them.

ohioshooter
November 1, 2009, 12:01 AM
230 gr gold dots

delt167502
November 1, 2009, 12:10 AM
factory ammo ,which is 230 fmj. I,ve had to carry ,from the early 60's to today .the thing i like about the 45 is it is already expanded (458 dia.) when it leaves the barrel. and they work.

Zach S
November 1, 2009, 01:23 AM
230gr Golden Sabers in everything. All of my .45s eat them like candy. My AMT did, before I rebuilt it into a 22.

DasFriek
November 1, 2009, 01:45 AM
A Bullet,Andy only lets me have one.

orionengnr
November 2, 2009, 11:19 PM
Post #78, yet another Thread Necrophelia alert!
You are responding to a nearly three-year old thread.
Why do people keep dredging these up from the dead?

Read those old threads, absolutely.
If the pages of posts don't answer your question, do a search. Or start a new thread. :rolleyes:

mljdeckard
November 2, 2009, 11:23 PM
I am always amused that half the people on this board yell at people for not using the search feature to find old threads, and the other half yell at people for resurecting old threads.

Big Bill
November 2, 2009, 11:27 PM
What do you carry in your .45acp? I carry 9mm because I don't own a .45 ACP any more. :)

I had a beautiful Springfield 1911 A1 stainless that I foolishly traded several years ago. :banghead:

swinokur
November 3, 2009, 12:23 PM
G30

SD
Speer 230g Gold Dots
Federal 230g HST

Range
230g WWB or Federal Eagle

aliasneo07
November 4, 2009, 12:50 AM
Picking up a G21 on friday and I'll load it with whatever the hell I can find. Right now thats Hornady 230gr +P XTP. If I ever find 230gr Gold Dots or 230 gr Ranger Ts....I'll carry one of those.

NMGonzo
November 4, 2009, 04:09 AM
round ball and 1 or 2 spare mags

Dont hide behind the car; is not going to work~

GooMan
November 4, 2009, 06:21 PM
Remington UMC 230gr JHPs

okierifleman
November 4, 2009, 10:21 PM
230gr Golden Sabres

Geno
November 4, 2009, 10:31 PM
Winchester Personal Defense 230 Gn HPs. I can't decide if these things look like flying ashtrays, or a black hole? I think black hole as I try to see the bottom of the HP. No light escapes. By the way, I dug these rounds from a Russian Boar. They held together well.

(link): http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k368/OhWowPictures/HPIM2627.jpg

spd1303
November 5, 2009, 12:20 AM
Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP

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