Witness Elite Stock Vs. CZ 97B


March 4, 2007, 10:26 PM
I have a CZ 75B stainless and love it dearly. It shoots great and fits me perfectly. I want to move up to a .45, so I went to the LGS to fondle a 97B to make sure it fit my hand. It fit great. AND, they had a satin nickel finish one as well as a two tone, both of which are very hard to find. BUT, I have also been looking at the Witness Elite Stock. I like the fact that you can get the conversion kits to go to 10mm and 38 super as well as 9mm and 40. I *think* that these kits work on the Elite Stock as well as the regular witness pistols. So what are everyones opinions? Stick with CZ (which I would prefer), or give myself the option of adding a 10mm conversion kit. CZoices...

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March 5, 2007, 10:33 AM
Stick with CZ (which I would prefer),


But the Italians make the best CZ clones out there.

March 5, 2007, 02:39 PM
I have a Elite Stock in .45ACP and I put the question of conversion kits to Mr. Reed at https://shop.reedsammo.com/splashPage.hg

He said that the kits won't work with the Elite Match or Stock because the Elite pistols are custom fitted and have closer tolerances, so you might be better off buying a CZ97 if it fits you well. I've never owned a CZ97 but have a few CZ75B's and I would say that the Stock is better finished and has a excellent SA trigger, as it should as a semi-custom pistol, although the DA action is quite heavier then anything I own on the CZ line.

I bought mine used for a good price and would recommend them to anyone looking for a good .45 with the caveat that EAA's customer reputation is not the best.

CZForum has a section on clones if you want more info -


March 5, 2007, 03:03 PM
The Satin Nickel and Duo Tone 97bs are RARE. Only 60 satin nickels and 60 duo tones were made. Where do you say they are available?

March 5, 2007, 08:44 PM
I will tell when I decide not to buy them...

March 5, 2007, 11:00 PM
I actually already ordered a Satin Nickel. :neener:

I was wondering so I could inform the czforum guys. They'll appreciate the tip as many have been searching for one for months. I, just like you, stumbled upon mine.

March 5, 2007, 11:21 PM
I want to go back and look at the date code. I don't think the rumor that only 60 were made is true. The gunshop guy told me they get them in all the time and have for the past few years. I don't see them on gunbroker though.

Mr Kablammo
March 5, 2007, 11:25 PM
I have not shot the Witness, so I know only one-half of the argument. But that half says get the CZ 97B. It as an accurate and sweet shooting 0.45. And if you can get two-tone, that is icing on the cake-with a cherry.

March 6, 2007, 12:54 PM
Info on the CZ97b RSR specials.


March 6, 2007, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I read that about the RSR specials, but this is a new gun from a pretty big dealer of CZ's. I am not sure it is an RSR special.

Buck Nekkid
March 7, 2007, 02:07 AM
I'm not sure where your dealer is getting his information or his satin nickel 97's but here's what the President of CZ-USA sent me back in April of last year:

Dear Sir,
RSR purchased approx. 60 units of CZ 97 in satin nickel and 60 units of the dual tone CZ 97. At this stage we are not considering a bronze finish.

These were made in 2004 and for the moment we are not going to put them in production. It was a limited series and this is all that US received.

Take care
Alice Poluchova

March 7, 2007, 09:37 PM
Yes, I believe that, but that was 10 months ago, hence why I want to see the date stamp on this particular gun.

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