9MM Defensive round


March 6, 2007, 09:43 AM
I curently use Corbon 115 in my Smith M&P. What are the better & hotter defensive loads for the 9 now???

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March 6, 2007, 10:53 AM
Search, this question gets ask almost once a week now. The search button is your friend.

Some like 115 hp +p

others 124 hp+p


MS .45
March 6, 2007, 10:59 AM
I use Remington Golden Sabers 124g +P most of the time in my Glock 26 and CZ P-01. I plan on trying some others soon. I like the mid-range bullet weights(124g-127g).

March 6, 2007, 11:04 AM
Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+, by far and away the best 9mm round currently available.

March 6, 2007, 11:22 AM
FMJ is what I carry. Don't have to worry about lack of penetration or being charged with some silly BS because I was carrying hollow points.

Gary G23
March 6, 2007, 12:06 PM
Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P hollow point

March 6, 2007, 12:11 PM
Federal Hydra Shok 124 grain

March 6, 2007, 12:35 PM
thank you to all who answered... I am new in here and found the search item on the menu bar....

Black Majik
March 6, 2007, 03:17 PM
I use Speer 124 gr. +p GDHP also...

March 6, 2007, 03:46 PM
All good rounds mentioned. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Corbon 115 gr you have now.

Tom Servo
March 6, 2007, 04:44 PM
The 115gr CorBons are a zippy round and kick quite a bit. Should be effective, though I'd worry a bit about over-penetration.

I carry 124gr Black Hills Gold Dots, which I shoot very well. Oddly enough, they're very cheap.

March 6, 2007, 05:21 PM
Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P.

March 6, 2007, 05:59 PM
Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+, by far and away the best 9mm round currently available.

GunNut is absolutely correct. Another good load is a Cor-Bon 115 gr +P. This website http://stevespages.com/page8f9mmluger.html has a ton of good info about various 9mm loads as well.

Deer Hunter
March 6, 2007, 06:01 PM
Federal HST, without a doubt.

who me
March 6, 2007, 06:02 PM
I carry Georgia Arms loaded gold dots in my carry guns.

March 6, 2007, 06:24 PM
I use WWB, 147 grain, JHP. I pay about 15-16$ per 50. IMO, they would all work good.

March 6, 2007, 06:26 PM
Gold Dot...Great round!

March 6, 2007, 08:05 PM
A HP from any major manufacturer is going to be good. But for pure Horse Power, check out Double Tap Ammo.

115 grn Gold Dot round at 1415 Feet Per Second.

March 6, 2007, 08:37 PM
Ranger 124g RA9124TP on this end. Extremely consistent through 4 layers of denim covered ballistic gel. Expansion matches the 40 S&W 165g RA40TP. You have to turn the base of the bullets up to distinguish the 9mm from the 40S&W as both expand to .68 to .74" and penetrate 14 to 15 inches with talons splayed. Very impressive.

Previously used 124g +p GD's and GS's .

March 7, 2007, 01:06 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned DoubleTap's 9mm loads. I currently use their 124 grain Gold Dot JHP 9mm+P ammo - leaves the muzzle of my 92fs at around 1320 fps. one hell of a load! Of course, I'm a little biased, cause I doubletap is all I trust for my carry needs ;)

try this link: Doubletap 9mm (http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_37&products_id=120)

edit - oops, looks like someone DID mention doubletap already :rolleyes:

March 7, 2007, 01:32 PM
Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+, by far and away the best 9mm round currently available.

My current choice too.

There are several very good alternatives.

March 7, 2007, 01:42 PM
Currently I carry "El Dorado Starfire Classic Pistol Cartridges" 9x19mm, 124 Grain, in my Taurus PT111.


March 7, 2007, 05:24 PM
+1 Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P hollow point

March 7, 2007, 06:53 PM
Many many to choose from. Gold Dot, Ranger, Saber, Cor Bon, Black hills, hydra shock, Hornaday, and a couple that I can not recall right at the moment. I think the key is to try each in your gun and and see what works best. My PCR likes Gold Dot 124 grain regular presure. Somtimes I do use the +P...but not all the time.

The Stevespages site was neat...thanks for the link.

March 7, 2007, 06:59 PM
FMJ is what I carry. Don't have to worry about lack of penetration or being charged with some silly BS because I was carrying hollow points.
I can understand the sentiment, but if I buy a box of JHP's that say "For Self Defense", I figure I can sell that to a jury. :)

I do use FMJ's in my P32, but not in large guns.

March 7, 2007, 07:15 PM

March 7, 2007, 09:42 PM
I carry Speer Gold Dots exclusively in all of my autos. In 9mm, I use 124 +P rounds.

March 7, 2007, 10:14 PM
I was just about to buy some 124 gr +P Gold Dots, but then I found a killer deal on the 124gr +P Federal HSTs.

I'd be 100% confident in either round though.

March 23, 2007, 02:33 AM
I prefer Win. 147gr SXT, Win. 147gr. STHP, or Win 115gr. STHP.

Ive fired alot of +p loads and Im far more proficient with the above listed in the 2 9mm pistols I choose to carry (Kahr CW9, TaurusPT111MilPro).

equally important imo, Ive also been more satisfied with my own pennetration/expantion, barricade/deflection tests with the above listed,than any other ammo, for the pistols I use, per their application.


March 23, 2007, 05:31 AM
Beretta 92D Centurion; nonCCW; HD & car gun;

PMC ElDorado Starfire 124gr jhp

March 23, 2007, 07:53 AM
My choice is Winchester Ranger 127 grain +P+ SXT "Law Enforcement Only". Hard to find, but can be had on the internet from various sources for about $25/box of 50. This is the successor to their "Black Talon" load, just without the black coating on the bullet - which served no useful purpose other than barrel lubrication anyhow. This is a very high pressure round and probably not something to shoot out of a lightweight subcompact gun.

Double Tap and Buffalo Bore also have 124 grain hollowpoint loads with Gold Dots and Speer Unicores respectively that both exceed 1300 fps.

These 9mm. loads get real close to the performance of the "legendary" 125 grain .357 Magnum rounds that are proven successful by LEO usage during the wheelgun era for police departments.


March 23, 2007, 08:06 AM
reading the combat handgunerry 5th addition by massad ayoob, there are a few accounts of the 115gr +p rds working really well in actual real world situations.

March 23, 2007, 09:24 PM
+1 on the Winchester Ranger 127 grain +P+ SXT, these rounds are just deadly. Hard to find but top of the line ammo.

March 23, 2007, 10:27 PM
You want Ranger? Go here:


March 24, 2007, 05:21 PM
I chose Double Tap ammo as my 9mm loads. The Speer Gold Dot bullet holds together better than the Cor-Bon offerings and Double Tap's loads are a little faster at lower pressure. They cost less too. About the same as competing premium loads. They are also optimized to perform well in shorter barrels, which is a plus since the only 9mm I use for defense is a short barreled gun for concealed carry.

Their 147 grain loads perform really well. Most of the 147 grainers have traditionally been driven at spitwad velocities and didn't expand reliably. Double Tap's combination of the Speer bullet and higher velocities has turned this round into quite a good performer. I had avoided 147's like the plague until these came out.

March 24, 2007, 05:29 PM
I also carry Speer Gold Dots exclusively in my autos. In 9mm, I use 124 +P (short barrel) rounds. Dennis

March 24, 2007, 06:43 PM
Ruag action 1 84gr.


March 24, 2007, 08:11 PM
I also use doubletap's 147gr ammo. Its good stuff

March 24, 2007, 09:01 PM
I use Winchester Personal Protection (white box) 115gr. or 147gr. depending upon firearm. $15/50 so I can shoot them every trip to the range. Lots of practice with your carry round is a good thing :)

March 24, 2007, 09:36 PM
I usually carry the Federal HST 124gr in 9MM. They also make it in +P, which I will switch to if I ever find some. I also like the Corbon 115 and 125 +P.

March 25, 2007, 12:20 AM
There's a few I like and for different roles.

115 grain +P+ Federal JHP--Home defense because of less over-penetration.
127 grain +P+ Winchester Ranger--Good all-around load.
124 grain +P Gold Dot--Camping, hiking and automobile use because of bonded bullet.
115 grain +P Cor-Bon DPX--All around best IMO but hardest to find and most expensive.

March 25, 2007, 01:56 AM
Those who answered gave you a lot of good rounds. But as far as I'm concerned, you can't beat the Corbon 115 +P round. It will take down the BG without any problems.

March 25, 2007, 02:22 AM
Ranger 127gr SXT 9mm in my CZ75B , I can find this at the local gunshows easily . Corbon 135gr 357Sig in my Steyr M357

March 25, 2007, 03:11 AM
9mm there is no better in my opinion then Federal +P+ jhp. 90% shot with have fallen with one or two shot's.:D

March 25, 2007, 09:46 AM
Double Tap 124 grain +P

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