Maryland CCW Wars: BIG RAT sighted!


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Kharn
January 6, 2003, 09:03 PM
Check out the website for a more-indepth look: http://www.chesapeake.net/~mcfadden/ccw/

More interesting happenings in Maryland, the highlights:
My question: "Is there an independent audit performed at any regular or irregular interval to insure that the Licensing Division is not discriminating based on sex, race, disability, sexual orientation or other characteristic in any manner?" MSP response: "No."

Again, ~35,000 valid permits are out there, according to the MSP (just had to confirm it, to ensure no miscommunication), but that number cant be supported by 2,417 renewals and 1,778 new permits as in 2001, since renewals are good for 3 years, and new permits are good for 2 years.

I managed to scrounge up the cash to pay for a copy of their procedures manual, a report on the races of permit holders and another on their occupations.

Its getting very, very interesting here. :banghead:

To those that helped, thanks, to those that reside in MD and havent, please step forward and lend a hand.
If you live near a state police barracks, please visit them and ask about getting a handgun permit. Reporting where you visited and their reactions will be helpful, especially if you ask about your chances for getting one for personal protection (try and sneak in a question about who is the right person you need to know to get one). If you dont live near a state police barracks, visit your local Sheriff or PD and ask the same questions, just doing that could help the cause immensely if the right answers turn up.

Kharn

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Jim March
January 7, 2003, 12:11 AM
Hell yes!

You're closing in on 'em. Pinning down the lack of audits has serious implications.

Are you in contact with your state-level gun rights groups on this? You're starting to develop ammo that could help that new Gov of yours take a pro-rights stance.

Also, did you find any state-level mailing lists yet?

Cliff
January 7, 2003, 12:12 AM
Very interesting read, thanks for the info. anything I can do to help,please, let me know.

Kharn
January 7, 2003, 06:10 AM
Jim: I've got that handled, probably only one or two more letters after the current one (the one dated 12/27) until I'm going to photocopy it all, bookmark and highlight the stinky parts and send the packets off to anyone that I think could start a change. The governor, my previous representative (I got redistricted into Prince George's county, my previous rep was the yearly sponsor of the shall-issue CCW bill) and my state senator (A or A+ from the NRA, IIRC) will definitely be getting packets.

Cliff: Just ask your local PD (or the state police barracks if one is nearby) about getting a permit, try digging up names of people that might "help" the process along (such as getting them to say "If you talk to Mr. Y, he can help get your permit"). Thats all I need right now, when I get my hands on the list of names I'll definitely need more help.

Kharn

Blackhawk
January 7, 2003, 10:35 AM
Good work and good luck, Kharn! :neener:

cuchulainn
January 7, 2003, 12:00 PM
Go Kharn, go!

Cliff
January 7, 2003, 12:10 PM
Kharn:
I'm not that far from "Q" barracks in Collage Park,MD,I'll mosey on up there one day soon,inquire,and get back to you.:scrutiny:

JeepDriver
January 7, 2003, 05:48 PM
I'll make another trip over to the Golden Ring barracks.

Should we be getting the names of those we talk to?
Is there anything I can do to help you with this?

Kharn
January 7, 2003, 06:00 PM
JeepDriver:
Get the name of the person you talk to, if you can without being obvious (like get it off their nametag or if they introduce themselves). If they suspect you are digging for info (or looking to pin them to the wall), they might not talk as freely.

Kharn

Capital Punishment
January 7, 2003, 07:54 PM
Your doing a good thing Kharn.

Is there anything a 15 year old can do? Pass out flyers? Anything i physically can do? Please, do not hesitate to let me know. I would love to see concealed carry in Maryland.

cpileri
January 8, 2003, 04:21 AM
I remember this thread from TFL.
Just want to let you know I'm still with you.
C-

JeepDriver
January 10, 2003, 07:40 PM
Alright I'm going to the Golden Ring Barracks in the morning.

Will post more in the morning

JeepDriver
January 11, 2003, 10:40 AM
I went to the State Police this morning. I spoke to Officer Lutz. When I asked what the chances were of getting my CHL he responded by saying "If I wanted one just to have one I wouldn't get it" I asked why that was and his answer was "Because you become part of the problem"

The officers at the desk didn't even know the criteria for a CHL. I didn't let on that I already knew the criteria.

Kharn
January 11, 2003, 10:56 AM
Whoa, very interesting. JeepDriver, check your PM.

Kharn

MikeK
January 11, 2003, 06:49 PM
Nice job! If you're not back at school yet, MCSM is having their next meeting 1/14. www.mcsm.org for location and directions. All of you other Marylanderers are welcome too. There is some crossover between MCDL and MCSM.

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