A shooter for my Daughter


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Leedavisone
March 7, 2007, 03:46 PM
I am interested in buying a new 9mm semi-auto to do some range shooting with. Thinking about the CZ 75B. My 15 year old wants to go to the range and see what it is all about... is the 9mm a reasonable caliber for a 15 year old to shoot comfortably? (I have never had a 9mm before).

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doubleg
March 7, 2007, 03:54 PM
It might be a little bit much for her. 9mm like you probally know is high velocity so it might be a little bit to jumpy for her likeing. Check out some of the .380's and low velocity .38 specials. I would sugest checking out what you can rent at an indoor range before you run out and buy something.

GCW5
March 7, 2007, 03:57 PM
I'd start out with a .22 revolver. Get her use to it, then a .22 auto. Work your way up, .38 special next, then a 9mm.

After training several new shooters, I've found that the emptys flying can be a big distraction to new shooters, especally if a hot empty lands on bare skin. I'd allways start out small in caliber and work up.

A 9mm is a pretty light recoil round, but I'd still want to stare with a .22.

shooter1
March 7, 2007, 04:18 PM
The CZ in 9mm is an excellent starter for new shooters. Just be sure to have her wear eye protection and GOOD hearing protection. I reccomend plugs and muffs. Makes a world of difference in how a new shooter preceives the experience.
str1

Ala Dan
March 7, 2007, 04:26 PM
While the 9m/m NATO round is an excellent choice as a centerfire caliber
for beginners; I also suggest starting them out with a .22 caliber revolver;
then graduate to a .22 caliber self-loader, before escalating to the 9m/m
semi-auto. Lots of practice can be had this way, and your 15 year old
will thank you for it~! ;) :D

Gendaito
March 7, 2007, 04:30 PM
Get something in a 22LR. Ruger MKII/III, Browning Buckmark, Walther P22, something like that. Or a 22LR revolver would be great too.

If all you have currently are 40sw or 45acp, you should definitely get something in 22LR, just for diversity's sake! And it's so cheap to shoot!:D

1BLINDREF
March 7, 2007, 04:51 PM
+1 GCW5
Exactly what I did with my two sons and any noobie I take to the range. IMHO, revolvers are the best teaching tool for first timers - young and older. Last thing you want to do is scare a first timer with too much recoil. Let them work up the power ladder.
Good luck!

briansp82593
March 7, 2007, 04:58 PM
ok heres what you do... buy the cz then get the kadet kit... so u can have 9mm and 22! that or get a beretta 92 she will love it :evil: very mild recoil pretty simple and good accuracy for only 500? yeah about the same as the cz but in a better package :evil:

dmftoy1
March 7, 2007, 07:55 PM
FWIW I started my daughter out on a .22 and after about her fourth range session she asked if she could shoot my .45 . . .now she works about 150 rounds of rimfire and then makes the steel dance with my .45. She's a damn good shot.

Have a good one,
Dave

Trebor
March 7, 2007, 09:26 PM
I reccomend you start *any* newbie off with a .22. That goes double for kids. She may very well be capable of shooting, and enjoying, a 9mm, but she'll learn more and be more comfortable at first starting with a .22.

Buy a good .22, like a Ruger or Browing, and use that as a training gun. When she's ready to go up to a larger caliber, she'll let you know.

tnieto2004
March 7, 2007, 09:28 PM
buy the cz then get the kadet kit.

GREAT IDEA!! She can practice on the gun till she is comfortable then move up to a 9mm

USAFA06STX
March 8, 2007, 04:58 AM
If you don't already have a .22, I'd probably get that first as it would allow her to get comfortable around firearms without a fear of heavy recoil. Then, once she has some experience and solid fundamentals, I would probably involve her in the decision making process of picking out the 9mm and focus on finding one that fits her hands well while still aesthetically pleasing to her (even if this means buying a "cute" pistol).

Sylvan-Forge
March 8, 2007, 05:54 AM
IMO, a quality air-gun or .22LR for any vintage of new shooter.

Good thought on the CZ Kadet kit.

fattsgalore
March 8, 2007, 07:04 AM
I here people handing weapons to 5 and 6 year olds and can never argee with such practices. At 15 if she wants to, heck let her.

A 9mm is a good balance between power and controability. Maybe even a .38 in cowboy loads. If she can't handle it, it just mean she needs determination and more range time. Make us another proud soldier for the Militia and teach everything from safety to technique.

As for weapon I've heard the CZ75 in one of those excelent 9mm's. Also check out Beretta/Taurus design. Stay away from these new triggers, cause theres a learning curve with those poly guns. Stay with DA/SA. She may want to handle a smaller pistol then said 9mm.(most females do, my sister and female friends do anyway) Explain why a larger gun is better especially for the range.
Good luck.

Oh yeah, I remember them showing an automatic competion on ShootingGallery some time back.(mac's and tommy guns and such) The top competitor was a 13-15year old wielding a Mac 11 tactical. The other guys would laugh at the sight of a little girl with a gun, till she out shot them.
Anyone else seen this episode.

Lonestar
March 8, 2007, 09:13 AM
Rent some guns before you buy something. Some young girls may be fine with a 9mm but others my not. I have a female relative that will not shoot anything above a .380, yet she is not afraid of guns and shoots regularly. Its what she likes and she does not care for anything else. I also know a young women who owns nothing but guns with calibers where the first number starts with a 4. I would take her to a range, start her on a .22, work your way up and see what she likes. Heck she may fall in love with a .45, or she may only like shooting the .22, either way just be happy, your doing her a great service. :D

Frog48
March 8, 2007, 01:42 PM
A 1911 would be a good choice, if you also buy a .22 LR conversion kit. She can learn with .22 LR for now, and when she gets older she can shoot .45 ACP.

Frog48
March 8, 2007, 01:42 PM
A 1911 would be a good choice, if you also buy a .22 LR conversion kit. She can learn with .22 LR for now, and when she gets older she can shoot .45 ACP.

ugaarguy
March 8, 2007, 02:53 PM
Good advice thus far. I must agree that a range with rentals is the way to go. Start with a 22 so she can get the basics of sight alignment, trigger, and breath control. Once she's comfortable if she wants to step up to something bigger let her handle all the 9mms they have at the range and rent the one that she says feels best in her hands.

I also commend you for taking the time to teach your daughter to shoot and seeking advise to help make it a pleasant experience for her. We need more dads like you. :)

Here's more good info via Pax' website Cornered Cat http://www.corneredcat.com/KidsAndGuns/FunNewShooters.htm

bdutton
March 8, 2007, 03:15 PM
I was told by a coach that Juniors should start out on air guns and master the fundamentals before moving up to guns with more powerful recoil:

.177 -> .22 -> .32 -> .38 -> .45

CB900F
March 8, 2007, 09:50 PM
Lee;

I see you're in New Mexico & can appreciate that ranges with rentals might not be in the immediate area:D.

Is this indeed going to be her first shooting experience? If so, starting with the .22 rimfires is the route I'd suggest. That's not to say that stepping up can't be done in fairly short order, but start with the .22 to teach safety & the basics.

My daughter started a little younger. At 15, she was shooting .357 magnum & popping 1 gal milk jugs at 50 yards with scary regularity. She could also shoot, not for fun mind you, full combat .357 loads out of a Ruger SP101 & hit center chest at 10 yards, all 5 rapid fire. In comparison, the 9mm is a pussycat. But, everybody is different & perception is a great influence to the beginning shooter.

In other words, if you treat handing her a 9mm as a big deal, trepidation showing, she'll treat it as a scary thing. But, if you tell her this is a logical step up from .22 and don't make a big deal of it, neither will she. As long as it's not in some sub-micro platform that'll rock her world.

Personally, I think the CZ75/Kadet idea is a great one.

900F

PrimaryB
March 8, 2007, 10:23 PM
Comparing apples to oranges my daughter has shot a 45-70 Sharps when she was 14, also gp100 and such. She loved it. For proficiency and confidence a Ruger MKII would be good. I think the best way would be to introduce her to shooting in a manner that obviously doesn't exhibit any vicious recoil in a handgun. A single action of a smallish cal would be the safest but if she has never shot anything before perhaps take her out with a 410 shotgun shooting at clays on a bank or berm. I think hitting a target is as important as handling recoil. We were all introduced to something in our lives and quickly overcame the item when we started out and within weeks wanted more. Don't underestimate kids especially because she is a young women. She will probably be shooting lights out with a 9mm and your gonna find yourself up against someone who's going to want to compete w/you and besides, you have to buy the ammo.:neener:

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