Where are guns not allowed???

[fattsgalore]

From what I remember weapons aren't permitted in:
Bars
Schools
Goverment buildings
Ball parks(stadiums if I'm correct)

Where else? I feel like I'm missing something. Anyone with a CCW chime in with info. It may be different from state to state though, but I think the basics are the same.

At least we can carry in church. God bless America.

[jfernett119]

LE facilities
Jails

[.cheese.]

I'm not 100% sure, but I could have sworn I heard that you can't carry in any hospital or medical facility that treats mental patients (which is most hospitals)

somebody go and check that for me because I'm not sure.

Oh and also, you forgot airports. Certainly not beyond the sterile point, but I remember seeing something about you can carry prior to that. Again - somebody needs to check on that too for me.

[JLStorm]

Bars are ok to carry in in many, if not most states.

[outofbattery]

It depends on the state:some states you can carry in a bar,at least one you would have to open carry,and many places you can't carry in _any_ restaurant that serves alcohol.Some states have a fairly nebulous law concerning "public gatherings" which could mean a parade or a football game.Most states would depend upon the stadium you were going to watch the game as to whether it was legal,more based upon league/owner rules than state law however.

The only places off-limits to me are schools and courthouses.Neither of which are any concern.

[RNB65]

Depends on where you're located. Every state has it's own rules.

[Car Knocker]

As others have noted, it all depends on which state you're in. In Utah, it's legal to carry in almost all the places various posts have listed as prohibited.

[beardownwildcat]

no bars or restaurants in az that serve alcohol. that includes places like chili's, etc...but if you are a worker or bartender, you can ask your boss for approval and carry concealed. i have heard hospitals have to post, most do anyways. i would recommend checking packing.org, they have some good state by state info.

[07Lway]

New Mexico you can't carry anywhere that serves beer/liquor. Now if only places that sold beer/liquor would say so on the front door...

[Croyance]

I believe in many states you can't carry in the homes of people who have stated they don't allow it.

[Bezoar]

Im in michigan, havent checked my states laws in a while as the online state site made itself sketchy on these things.

You need to check with your local police to figure it out. Michigan had/has a rule that you cant carry into a movie theater building with a certain number of allowed occupants at one time..

[fattsgalore]

Can't believe I forgot Airports.
I'm in Florida so everything thats been mentioned is a no go. I concider Jails and Police stations government building. Even though alot of 7/11's are police sub stations which would actually mean you couldn't take your gun inside most 7/11's. Weird.

[spacecoastguy]

:) :) I am in Flordia also what if the Church has a school or day on the property if anybody knows it is appreaiated.

Thanks Space

[TexasRifleman]

Can't believe I forgot Airports.

Well, you can carry in half of the airport anyway.

(again, state dependant)

[Cableguy]

Polling Places - Election Day.........

or any place biz that decide to post a No Gun sign even if it's made in crayon by a kindergardner.....

Ohio

[nwilliams]

If you go to www.packing.org you should be able to find all the info you need based on where you live

[Car Knocker]

It's amazing the various places that are off-limits in differing states.

[NORTEXED]

In Texas, Amusement Parks are off limits, and the alcohol stipulation is that you can't carry in an establishment that derives over 51% of it's income from the sale of alchol. That means you can carry in almost all restraunts, and establishments that derive over 51% of their income from alcohol must post a "51%" sign at the entrance. Teaxs has made a big change though, now allowing for CCL at the age of 18 if you are active or honerably discharged military, as it should be.

[magnumman44]

In Virginia, NO CHURCHES!!!!!!! However, on school grounds if in an automobile and have ccw, or for some sort of school event...Packing.org has it on there!!!!

[Eyesac]

Schools
Federal Buildings
Airports

[scurtis_34471]

Florida bans carry in:

Any school of any kind
Any college or professional athletic event not related to shooting
Any police station, jail, courthouse, courtroom or polling place
Any establishment or portion thereoff whose primary purpose is serving alcohol
The secure areas of any airport

State government buildings are not necessarily off-limits.
Carry in National Forests is ok.
All Federal buildings are off limits, including visitor centers in National Forests.
The law on bars just got less restrictive, but I don't know the new rules.

[TexasRifleman]

In Texas, Amusement Parks are off limits,

No, Amusement Parks are no longer expressly off limits.

That was changed along with churches and hospitals.

They must post the 30.06 sign or you can go right in.

PC 46.035 if you want to read it.

[ID_shooting]

Idaho:

Bars are ok as long as I am not drinking, Schools are fine so long as it stays IN the car (execpt for students) and airports BEFORE the security points.

No Govt buildings of any kind nor Nat'l Parks.

Private business may post and I can ingore so long as I leave if asked.

[Ringer]

"Pistol Free Areas" in Michigan http://michigan.gov/msp/1,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10947--,00.html

Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
The dropping off or picking up part has been removed, not sure wht MSP site doesn't reflect it

Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.

Sports arena or stadium

A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons

An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

A hospital

A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

A Casino

"Weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy."

[Kimber1911_06238]

any private business that doesn't allow it.

[Don Lu]

In GA I believe it is unlawful to carry in an a place with an event w/a scheduled start time ie. church , sporting event, parade, political rally...not sure but I believe Ive read this and as a result do not carry in the situations.

[Geronimo45]

No carry in TX amusement parks? I can guess why - IPSC/IDPA shooters. They go into the 'haunted house'... zombies pop out of nowhere, and the 'haunted house' becomes a shoot house. :evil:

[Texfire]

In Texas, Amusement Parks are off limits,
No, Amusement Parks are no longer expressly off limits.

That was changed along with churches and hospitals.

They must post the 30.06 sign or you can go right in.

PC 46.035 if you want to read it.

Here's the appropriate citations from PC §46.035: (edited for clarity)

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;

(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;

(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;

(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;

(5) in an amusement park; or

(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.

(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental entity.

All of which seems to contradict your statement until you get to a small addendum:

(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

For you further amusement and edification, this section defines amusement park as
a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

Off the top of my head, only Six Flags, Fiesta Texas and Sea World San Antonio meet this definition. I was told that at the time the law was originally written this definition was referred to as the "Six Flags amendment". Moot now, as they no longer enjoy special status and must comply with 30.06 if they wish to prohibit CHL holders from carrying on their property.

Tex

[doc2rn]

In my state churches, colleges (schools), and parks are off limits:banghead: :cuss: :fire:

[modifiedbrowning]

In Montana the following are prohibited:
state buildings (courthouse, schools)
establishments that serve alcohol on the premises
banks
federal buildings
Concealed carry only requires a permit within a city, logging or mining camp.
Also, concealed carry is specifically defined as covered by an article of clothing so a firearm concealed in a car is perfectly legal. I would assume that a fanny pack or similar would not require a CCW permit.

[glassman]

I asked the same question some time ago. In Pa., it seems that only courthouses and schools are listed as a 'no carry' zone. If anyone has more information about carrying in Pa., I'd like to know about it.

[Cableguy]

Additional input===

Churches are off limits in Ohio UNLESS the Pastor, gives permission to the individual...

[Oldskoolfan]

It really depends on the state. What state are you in? Nobody can give you a good answer until you tell us what state you are referring to.

[45/70]

Oregon allows carry in bars and in schools. Schools if you're not "staff." Someone recently commented about how schools should put out a sign, "We've systematically disarmed. Come get us."

Bars are legal. But if you're hammered, you're not legal no matter where you are. Drunk in possession of a firearm is outlawed.

City hall is not legal. If you have a CCW, you may check your firearm with the Sheriff when you enter their building -- which contains the jail. You need to be clear BEFORE passing through their door that you have a gun and where it is. Easier to leave it locked in the vehicle.

Stadiums are legal.

Busses, city transportation. Tri-Met in Portland prohibits firearms, but it's not "state law." The prohibition is company policy and violation is a "civil infraction." The charge is "civil contempt" -- which is a class C misdemeanor. That's right in there with smoking in a no smoking area. Most CCW holders I know carry on the bus. "It's nobody's business."

Interesting here, "across the river" in WA State -- because it's just across the river from me -- Concealed carry is legal without a permit if you're "engaged in outdoor recreation." That includes "going to and coming from." WA state would like you to have a CCW from another state and "outdoor recreation" includes such things as fishing, hiking, bicycle, horseback. It doesn't include sitting in the stadium watching football.

It pretty much includes having your Oregon CCW and being anywhere in WA. Because it's hard to argue that you're not engaged in "outdoor recreation" if you're in WA in your vehicle and driving from Oregon.

Oregon allows carry without a permit if you're "a licensed hunter or angler, going to, coming from, or engaged in a hunting or fishing expedition." That would include clam digging, which is viewed as "fishing," requires a license and a shellfish tag.

Sheriff pretty much views anyone with a hunting license and a gun as "being on a hunt." Varmints are legal year 'round. If you're not at work or a PTA meeting and are carrying, you're viewed as being on a hunt. That would cover being in church I suppose . . . praying for a successful hunt, or giving thanks for the hunt that you're "going to, or coming from."

Oregon has a long standing tradition of allowing citizens to carry their firearm, just so long as you're "rural" and engaged in outdoor sports. Urban gang-bangers don't get to carry.

[Winter Borne]

I know that each state has it's own rules on schools, govt. buildings and such, but here's a link to all the other un-friendly places you may or may not be aware of...

http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html

:cuss:

[DMK]

What are the federally restricted places?

Federal Buildings
Federal Parks
Post Offices
Military Bases

What am I missing? Are schools and airports federally restricted?

Everything else restricted should be restricted by state law, no?

[DMK]

Oh and in NC, it's:

Schools
State Offices (not necessarily other offices in the same building though)
Courts
Police/Sheriff's Offices
Banks
Parades
Anyplace that serves alcohol
Anyplace that charges admission
Anyplace "no guns" is posted

[Car Knocker]

Are schools and airports federally restricted?
Sorta kinda. Schools are federally restricted unless one has a CCW that includes a background check. Only the secure areas of airports are federally restricted.

[Moroni]

All the posted areas must have confidence in our law abiding criminals. As for me, I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[jaysouth]

Next time you start a thread like this, mention which state you are concerned about.

My favorite in VA is carrying is restaurants that serve alcohol. Concealed, NO-NO.

Open carry, no problem with the law, the restaurant owner may have something to say about it.

[sigfanatic]

pretty much all of NYC....:(

[johndoe1027]

DMK, do you know if there is a open carry clause in NC like VA has? Is open carry even cool in NC at all? I hate that I can't go into a restaurant with my gun (even though I do sometimes because I forget) even though I won't be drinking. I kind of see the logic, drunk comes over, hits on my woman, less resonable people would react differently than I would. Fighting most drunks is pretty easy, escpecially if they are drunk enough to do something that would get them in a fight with little ol me. Sorry about the ramble.

Nice thread, does anyone have a lead on a more detailed CCW site than packing.org? That site tells me exactly what my CCW class paperwork said already. No mention of open carry or brandishing in my state... I can't seem to find anything and I will not be paying a lawyer to find out what I can and can't do legally.
Thanks
john

P.S. My answer to the title of thread... pointing at me....:neener:

[Rickstir]

In MO, carry in a bar is okay if the owner gives you his permission. Any arena witha seating capcity over 5,000 is off limits. Really anything smaller than that is probably a high-school gym and that is off limits.

In a private business, if you are discovered, all they can do is ask you to leave. If you do not leave and they call the police, you will be charged with tresspassing. Two of those in a year and you loose your license. I prefer not to partonize businesses who do not allow CCW. However I have been in situations, like last Friday, when I was in downtown St. Louis, parked in a garage four blocks away, and when I got to the building I was visiting found a no carry sign. I went on in and didn't have any problems. I will carry my piece in downtown St. Louis and if I come up on a surprise no carry sign, oh well, concealed is concealed.

[Sniper X]

In New Mexico there are those listed in the porginal post, and

ANY package liq or conveinence store that sells package
Bars
Wal Marts, even if they don't sell package becuse it is posted
Any place so posted at the door or in a conspicous place
Hospitals so posted,
any government facility
any court facility
and so on

[Sniper X]

Rickstr, you are VERY SMART carring in Stx Louis! Shoot, I think if I still lived there, from what I hear about what happened to the "inner city" I'd carry my friggin AR and a couple 1911s around with me!

[GeorgiaGlocker]

In the state of Georgia there not allowed at Interstate rest stops!! :eek: