How do you feel about grips made of buffalo bone and carving?


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kimsonvu
March 10, 2007, 02:26 PM
I have a plan to made an grips from buffalo bone and carving by hand, but i want to know what the people in USA feel about them?:confused:

This is my buffalo bone


http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/61-2/DSCN2820+800x600.jpg

So, after 2 days...i have 4 pair unfinished pistol grips from buffalo bone yellow,white ,black horn and white horn.

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4768-2/DSCN4752.jpg
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4771-2/DSCN4762.jpg
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4774-2/DSCN4767.jpg

I think i need some people to help me to test them when finished... .:D

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kimsonvu
March 10, 2007, 02:28 PM
Another image when i do :D, they don't finish.

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4780-2/DSCN4780.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4777-2/DSCN4770_1.jpg

Also, i miss a marble horn and will capture image again :D

psyopspec
March 10, 2007, 03:09 PM
I think you could corner a small niche market with a product like that. Here in North Dakota, buffalo are a symbol of days long gone, pioneers, indians, western expansion, and expansive praries. They were an animal that sustained life for indians and earlier pioneers, who were able to use almost every part of the carcass.

If you had a table at a gun show, you'd likely make a few bucks, at least around here. Have you conducted any tests for durability or to see how they hold up?

Edited to add: Your location didn't appear while I was posting, but now that I see it I'm pretty sure we're talking about a different animal. However, if you're selling buffalo bone grips I don't think the American customer would be likely to ask too many questions.

Car Knocker
March 10, 2007, 03:22 PM
If you had a table at a gun show, you'd likely make a few bucks, at least around here.
Tough to make a profit, what with the airfare and all.

CWL
March 10, 2007, 03:39 PM
I think that we would call these "Water Buffalo" bones in the USA. The horns are commonly used in Asia for weapon mountings from small knife handles to Japanes sword fittings.

I know that the horns are very durable but I don't know how strong the bones are. You may need to stabilize the horns in some sort of liquid plastic to fill-in and seal the pores so it doesn't become brittle over time.

Mandirigma
March 10, 2007, 06:21 PM
Looks nice, I'm looking forward to see what "marble horn" looks like

NailGun
March 10, 2007, 07:44 PM
Very Nice! I would be interested.

daysleeprx
March 10, 2007, 07:48 PM
I'd be interested in a set!

MICHAEL T
March 10, 2007, 08:42 PM
I have bufflo horn on my PPK/S and a couple of knives I would like a set for a 1911 Colt cut for ambi safety.

Wolfsong
March 11, 2007, 01:20 AM
Gee, I don't know...send me a set that fit a Kimber Pro Carry II .45, and I'll let ya know how they hold up! :D Need my address?

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

kimsonvu
March 11, 2007, 10:59 PM
This is my marble horn,just finished in today :D

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4798-2/DSCN4795.jpg

Have 3 kind of marble horn.

kimsonvu
March 11, 2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks for your comment,with this material it very cheaper,nice,and can have 1000-2000 pair/months or more :D

So i have another idea:mixed, carve ,embossed,inlaid with mother of pearl to horn,inlaid bone to black horn etc.

Will update more picture :D

New update image :

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4795-2/DSCN4785.jpg

Next day, i will drill grips with that .It will exact every detail.

kimsonvu
March 12, 2007, 01:53 AM
I think that we would call these "Water Buffalo" bones in the USA. The horns are commonly used in Asia for weapon mountings from small knife handles to Japanes sword fittings.

I know that the horns are very durable but I don't know how strong the bones are. You may need to stabilize the horns in some sort of liquid plastic to fill-in and seal the pores so it doesn't become brittle over time.

Watter buffalo bone very durable and stable.it same as ivory not different :D , but it very hard to product grips than ivory !That why you don't see grips made from bone in market! ;)

Also,ivory just have 1 color and 1 kind vein but buffalo bone have many kind :D.Important: Bone cheaper than ivory and can produce many many and easy to import to US or EU as full product .

kimsonvu
March 12, 2007, 01:57 AM
Gee, I don't know...send me a set that fit a Kimber Pro Carry II .45, and I'll let ya know how they hold up! Need my address?

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

I would like to produce that pistol, but i don't have drawing of that :D

Can you send it to me?

kimsonvu
March 12, 2007, 09:46 AM
Today i was finished .All of them polished by hand and 3 time.
-1 and 2 by emery-paper (400 and 800 emery-paper)
-3 by this:

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4804-2/DSCN4811.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of water buffalo black horn (Don't have vein or little)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/c/cef54b1149555bd82f160dfe048ec092.image.450x337.jpg
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/4/4d1b1c7f27d5708bba78f4600e214e71.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 Made of water buffalo black horn (Have much vein)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/7/783cc5d46d8aa451114ffa16a398f7f1.image.450x337.jpg
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/d/d98aef29fef687c447c8cd9cc6626ad3.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of watter buffalo marble horn (Model 01)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/7/7e92ea22bee2a074d00019b8b5e6dfc5.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of watter buffalo marble horn (Model 02)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/4/4967cfe73302d69a07999223ee1614a4.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of watter buffalo bone (Have vein)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/3/32ed66463de92d9a680c6a6b38841e41.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of watter buffalo bone (don't have vein or little)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/f/f09612f35c4cde85fdbc2b07a6fb558f.image.450x337.jpg

Colt 1911A1 made of watter buffalo white horn (This material very uncommon)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/2/29b600404f1c86061b2940ea3b61f08d.image.450x337.jpg

I was missed an picture of another model marble watter buffalo horn :mad: , will update late ....

Thanks for your comment.

Geno
March 12, 2007, 09:58 AM
Very nice!

kimsonvu
March 12, 2007, 10:09 AM
Thanks you :D

This is another image of marble horn (Model 03)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/bmz_cache/6/610aac8d1c7f3bc77be4479621ce7f5d.image.450x337.jpg

kimsonvu
March 12, 2007, 10:10 AM
I think i will do another model in some day,next model i will:

mixed, carve ,embossed,inlaid with mother of pearl to horn,inlaid bone to black horn etc.

1KPerDay
March 12, 2007, 05:32 PM
Very cool stuff. I like the black with vein/marbling and the white horn in particular.:cool:

CWL
March 12, 2007, 06:57 PM
Kimsonvu,
Tell us when and how you plan on marketing your grips.

I think that there are people here willing to send in a trial order and give a product review.

kimsonvu
March 13, 2007, 03:49 AM
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4810-2/DSCN4862_1.jpg

This is my new style....will update soon :D.I think in 1 days i can create 10 style of grips hix hix ...to much to produce :D

KIMSON

To CWL: At this time, i'm looking for some business man or partnership ... to do business with me.

I can not do that in alone :D

kimsonvu
March 13, 2007, 07:34 AM
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4813-2/DSCN4867_1.jpg

LAK
March 13, 2007, 07:48 AM
I think there is certainly a market for the buffalo bone grips. Cosmetically they look very good. If there is a way to stablize them - perhaps resin soaking under great pressure - they might be more durable.

I would like to see precisely made buffalo horn grips for Browning High Powers. I ordered a set from Eagle Grips mail order to europe back in the late 80s; they fit so badly I sent them back. Never heard back from Eagle Grips so I did not know whether they got lost in the mail or otherwise.

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kimsonvu
March 13, 2007, 11:52 AM
Buffalo horn grips is badly :confused: or you can't fit it to gun?

Hagen442
March 14, 2007, 12:27 AM
Have you made any revolver Grips ? If so what about a Vaquaro Birds Head
in the Maerble with a matching set for a conventional Vaquero Grip.
I would be interested in purchasing.

I have Camel Bone or Buffalo on 4 of my 1911s and love the grips. I currently
have Buffalo on the 2 Stainless Vaquros I usually shooot in SASS Shoots but I think your
Marble Grips would look great on the Stainless.

Let us know what your going to do and give us some Pricing.

kimsonvu
March 14, 2007, 01:05 AM
Have you made any revolver Grips ? If so what about a Vaquaro Birds Head
in the Maerble with a matching set for a conventional Vaquero Grip.
I would be interested in purchasing.

I have Camel Bone or Buffalo on 4 of my 1911s and love the grips. I currently
have Buffalo on the 2 Stainless Vaquros I usually shooot in SASS Shoots but I think your
Marble Grips would look great on the Stainless.

Let us know what your going to do and give us some Pricing.

i was PM

LAK
March 14, 2007, 03:48 AM
kimsonvuBuffalo horn grips is badly or you can't fit it to gun?

They were badly made; they did not fit the outline profile of the frame properly leaving small gaps here and there, and there were small areas where they did not bed flat against the mating surfaces.

The outline I would expect perhaps some tiny variation due to the various wartime High Powers produced in Canada and elsewhere, but the flaws were quite substantial and the mating surfaces should have been perfectly flat leaving no gaps.

If you decide to make grips for the Browning High Power I would be sure to use a modern commercial model as a template.

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kimsonvu
March 14, 2007, 04:41 AM
They were badly made; they did not fit the outline profile of the frame properly leaving small gaps here and there, and there were small areas where they did not bed flat against the mating surfaces.

The outline I would expect perhaps some tiny variation due to the various wartime High Powers produced in Canada and elsewhere, but the flaws were quite substantial and the mating surfaces should have been perfectly flat leaving no gaps.

If you decide to make grips for the Browning High Power I would be sure to use a modern commercial model as a template.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power

I think it's ok.I am looking document as blueprint PDF for this grips ... if you have any ,please share with me

Thanks you very much

Cosmoline
March 14, 2007, 05:28 AM
Are we all talking about the same kind of buffalo? In SE Asia that usually means something very different than in South Dakota. I think these are water buff, not bison.

Whatever the source of the ivory, I love them and they're hard to find stateside. The more models you could offer the better, obviously.

kimsonvu
March 14, 2007, 07:10 AM
I can supply grips made of ivory in Vietnam.Real ivory not face!If you can import ,i can supply. :D
I posted a topic about how to know ivory or bone :D

KIMSON

LAK
March 15, 2007, 05:08 AM
kimsonvu,

Sorry, I do not have any leads for Browning High Power blueprints.

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yongxingfreesty
March 15, 2007, 05:57 AM
wow. those grips would look good on a smith and wesson revolver. nice!

kimsonvu
March 16, 2007, 01:38 PM
This is some of many new model which i will show :D .Image in factory ,unfinished product :D



http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4924-2/DSCN4888.jpg

kimsonvu
March 17, 2007, 05:31 AM
Yellow horn

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/shop/images/horncomb+1.jpg


Red horn
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/4938-1/DSCN9574_1.jpg

This is two new material to create 2 new grips.Will update ....

THanks for reading :D

kimsonvu
May 31, 2007, 01:01 PM
This is review from http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/

This is some model ruger (Still produce...not finish)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7498-2/DSCN5366.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7512-2/DSCN5368.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7537-2/DSCN5373.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7547-2/DSCN5375.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7542-2/DSCN5374.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7550-1/DSCN5376.jpg

kimsonvu
May 31, 2007, 01:33 PM
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7554-2/DSCN5378.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7559-2/DSCN5380.jpg

griz
June 1, 2007, 10:29 PM
Nice work, PM sent.

Camille Eonich
June 2, 2007, 11:38 PM
Gorgeous! I would be more than happy to test them out for you and write a review for you if you like. I'm also sending a PM to you. :D

Chuck Dye
June 3, 2007, 12:09 AM
Kimson, (or should I address you as Mr. Vu?) the use of bone or horn from a domestic animal will cause problems only for ardent vegetarians and animal rights fanatics. Your work is very appealing, visually, and, if it fits the guns it is intended for, should sell well.

Please be very careful of selling, or even offering to sell elephant ivory product. To do so is against the laws of many countries. Take a look at the C.I.T.E.S. (http://www.cites.org/) web site and do other research: I would hate ot see you run afoul of the law.

kimsonvu
June 3, 2007, 02:00 AM
Update in Sundays:

I will post more model ....

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7590-2/DSCN5394-sanghon_001.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7595-2/DSCN5400-sanghon_001.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7600-2/DSCN5402-sanghon_001.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7605-2/DSCN5404-sanghon.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7610-2/DSCN5409-sanghon.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7615-2/DSCN5416-sanghon.jpg

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7620-2/DSCN5419.jpg

I will have ruger logo carve model late...

kimsonvu
June 3, 2007, 02:38 AM
Gorgeous! I would be more than happy to test them out for you and write a review for you if you like. I'm also sending a PM to you.

I did not receive your PM.

Thanks you for interesting!

kingpin008
June 3, 2007, 03:00 AM
Kimsonvu - Let me add my voice to the ones of those here already complimenting you on your craftsmanship. I own a 1911 pistol, and would be extremely proud to show off even the most basic of your grips on my pistol. It's amazing the quality that you've been showing us, and from what I've seen of the prices, quite a good value as well!

As soon as I'm able, I'd love to buy a few sets of grips from you. Please continue to show us your handiwork, I believe I may be understating it when I say it's simply beautiful.

Take care -

Kingpin008

kimsonvu
June 5, 2007, 04:58 PM
Update some news:

Dust of life and marble horn:

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7703-2/DSCN5429-edit.jpg

Dust of life with yellow pain:
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7713-2/DSCN5435-edit.jpg


Now is 1:30AM 05/05/07.I will send about 7 grips to some man in USA to test and review part 2.In this part,every thing will ok and will don't have any some or small problem! Everything will perfect !

All of review-man will receive "Dust of life" model to test and review.
http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7708-2/DSCN5433-edit.jpg

This is name list:
Admin THR: 1 Grips black and marble (Black grips will sell to sponsor and marble will return)

Xavier: 1 Black grips and 1 black grips yellow pain. (Xavier can keep 1 grips as gift and sell another grips for me!? I paid shipment!)

Review man of m1911.org : 1 Grips black

Travis Fletcher : 1 Grips black.

Josh Messing: 1 Black grips.

Lycanthrope: 1 Black grips.


Thanks you all for support and trust our company.

KIMSON

P/s:Our grips will change size of text.It will smaller than first time .

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7718-2/DSCN5439.jpg


This is another image of custom grips for Mr.Shawn: (sory i have some busy to upload it !)

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7698-2/DSCN5428-edit.jpg

kimsonvu
June 11, 2007, 01:23 AM
Update : I receive another grips (Baretta grips) from Mr.Rafael

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/photo/origin-pattern/DSCN5488_1.jpg.html

Image:

http://www.handicraft-vn.com/gallery/d/7846-2/DSCN5488_1.jpg

Don't have text to know what Baretta model...:confused:...still wait for news from him :D

Wait for my update.....

KIMSON

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