[norfdet893]

How come with the popularity of 7 and 8 shot revolvers there are no 7 and 8 shot speed strips?

[ArchAngelCD]

I totally agree we need longer speed strips.

[BillinNH]

We need them in .44 caliber as well.

Bill

[Majic]

Where is the popularity of the 7 and 8 shooters?

[norfdet893]

Where is the popularity of the 7 and 8 shooters?

Well they are out there and they are selling, therefor there is a popularity. The other + for a 7 or 8 shot speed loader would be the availability to space out rounds for 5 shooters. And YES, 44 special/magnum would be nice.

[Old Fuff]

To make something new a manufacturer has to design and then tool it. This costs money, and sometimes lots of it. So they look at the potential market (how many 7 and 8 shot revolvers are there, and how many owners would be interested in buying speed strips (or whatever). They won't make any money untill the tooling and other overhead costs are recovered, and to do this they have to sell a LOT of speed strips. So they either make an in-house marketing study, or hire someone to do it (no names mentioned of course ;) ) to decide if the proposed product will be profitable. If in their view it would be they go, otherwise... no.

Tis true that 7 and 8 shot revolvers are out there, and some models are doing well.

But there are a lot more that are chambered to hold 5 and 6 rounds, and the tooling is pretty well paid for... :scrutiny:

But one of these days....... ;) :D

[ArchAngelCD]

The 7 round revolvers are selling very well but there are very few 8 round revolvers in .38/.357 There are a lot of 7 round models though. S&W has many and Taurus has even more. I think the cost of tooling is a real problem but since the molds for a 7 round strip would probably fit the machines that manufacture the 6 round strip I think they could probably tool up for a nominal cost.

[Sunray]

"...they are out there and they are selling..." That doesn't mean there enough demand for speed loaders.

[SnWnMe]

No honest man needs more than 6 shots.

[45Badger]

If God meant for you to have 7 or 8 shots in a revolver, he would have made 7 or 8 shot speed strips and loaders. K-Frames RULE!:neener:

[Old Fuff]

The manufacturer(s) have a pretty good handle on what the tooling costs will be. What they aren't sure of is how many owners of (in this case) 7 and 8 shot revolvers will be interested. The answer may be critical if they have to pay for tooling, "up front." You can be sure that when they are sure there is a big enough market they'll make a move.

[ArchAngelCD]

Loaders are no problem 45Badger, there are plenty on the market and on the shelves of the stores. :p

[Pat Cannon]

Mainly, I'd guess, because the 7- and 8-shot revolvers are not usually thought of as 'deep concealment' guns, or even carry guns much, so why not use a regular speedloader which is much quicker?

[norfdet893]

Well look at it this way, they make 7 shot speed loaders so tooling and overhead must not be that big of a deal since making a speed loader is probably more expensive than a speed strip. With the 7 shot speed loaders you can't use them on anything except a 7 shot revolver, with a 7 shot speed strip you could use them on 5/6/7 shot revolvers, much more practical.

[115grfmj]

Two of my local Big dealers around here say that the 686+ is their most requested .357, followed closely by the Gp100. I've got one in 4" barrel.
I see them every where, I know the potential market is HUGE for these things.

One thing is for certain the first company to make either speed strips or plunger type speed loaders is going to be the only one out there, and as a result will make out like a bandit.

[fspitzdorf]

pardon my ignorance but i have never actually seen a speed strip.... anyone have a photo? my favorite revolver is my 686+ (7 shot) and with nearly every synthetic grip it is danged near impossible to use a speed loader as it hangs up even with the relief unless you just barely get the bullet nose started and then release em and hope they all get in the hole... kind of cumbersome and time consuming... my J frame is even worse with the packmayr compacts...

[Old Fuff]

Well guys....

Once again. When the manufacturer's marketing department says there is a viable national market they will make they're move, but not before. The profit margin on a speed strip is very small in terms of bucks, and money is what drives the business.

[ArchAngelCD]

Mainly, I'd guess, because the 7- and 8-shot revolvers are not usually thought of as 'deep concealment' guns, or even carry guns much, so why not use a regular speedloader which is much quicker?
Good point Pat Cannon.

[Navy joe]

There is such a thing; for .38/.357 it is called an SKS stripper clip. Does a great job. Two full reloads for a 5-shot snub too.

[Bart Noir]

I'm not so sure about the SKS stripper clip. You would have to push one round into the chamber and then slide the clip sideways until the round slides out the end of the clip.

It is slow by the time you get to the last round and you are eventually going to add some unplanned engraving to your gun with that steel SKS clip.

Bart Noir

[JMag]

Six for sure...

:neener:

[Pat Cannon]

fspitzdorf:
pardon my ignorance but i have never actually seen a speed strip.... anyone have a photo?Here ya go (also my Ruger SP101 & Clipdraw):
http://www.skypoint.com/~goon/stuff/sp101_right.jpg

[tipoc]

Write a letter to Bianchi and encourage them to do it.

tipoc

[Jim March]

The short answer? Because both Taurus and S&W management are idiots.

Sound harsh? Sorry, but this is one symptom of a massive pattern of stupidity that would make Dilbert's boss blush.

Right now the gunmakers think they sell guns. WRONG. They sell parts of a complete self defense system.

IF THE OTHER PARTS DON'T EXIST, THEIR PART WON'T SELL.

But they can't see it.

The computer biz figured this out by at least 1984 or so, when Apple fought like hell to make sure apps were available for the Macintosh the instant it shipped.

Right now, if you buy an autoloader pistol you have to select rounds likely to work and test at least 200. That's utter madness - a recipe for "fear, uncertainty and doubt", the "FUD factor" that kills sales dead on arrival. Why don't the gunmakers get together with ammo houses and make sure there are solid loads available tuned for each gun they sell, complete with joint marketing? Why don' they make sure there are speedloaders and speed strips and holsters IMMEDIATELY available for every gun they sell, on the date of introduction, shipped to the stores?

Because they're fools.

[Lonestar]

Where is the popularity of the 7 and 8 shooters?

Heck if the AWB comes back and everyone is reduced to 10 round magazines again, I would take a good look at an 8 shot revolver for home defense.

[adweisbe]

They need to get a handle on reliably manufacturing functioning guns before they get to worrying about the whole system. The failure rate with new firearms is incredibly high. It seems every gun I buy is defective and I refuse to believe that my friends and I are a statistical abberation. We don't want Windows, we want Ubuntu or Knoppix!