Reverse Trigger?


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Arcli9ht
June 10, 2003, 11:12 AM
Are there any triggers made that are reverse triggers?
By that I mean you pull and hold on the trigger and nothing happens. When you let go of the trigger, the gun goes bang.

It' probably not the safest setup, especially for someone who doesn' know that it is reversed when they use the rifle. Also, it wouldnt be good for snap shots, but for long range accuracy on a slow aimed shot, I would think it would be pretty good.

/Arcli9ht

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Art Eatman
June 10, 2003, 11:28 AM
While it might be better for shooting at a target, I imagine the mechanical difficulty created by changing your mind would be just way too big a problem.

Actuating some sort of safety and then safely handling a "backwards" deadly weapon strikes me as not anything I'd want to have to deal with.

:), Art

MacPelto
June 10, 2003, 11:31 AM
There have been some made, but they've been outlawed in pretty much every type of competition that might find them useful. For Example..

NRA Rule 3.1 High Power Silhouette Rifle - A rifle, 6mm or larger caliber, meeting the following specifications

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(c) Any trigger not subject to accidental discharge. Triggers which function on release are not permitted. In the event of accidental discharge, the Range Officer shall require adjustment or replacement of the rifle.

Steve Smith
June 10, 2003, 11:33 AM
I know that they are strictly forbidden in NRA shooting sports. The safety issues associated with it should prevent most intelligent individuals from using such a thing.

MacPelto, not just for Silhouette, but all NRA sports.

MacPelto
June 10, 2003, 11:39 AM
MacPelto, not just for Silhouette, but all NRA sports.

I know, I was just illustrating one example, and Silhouette rules were the first to hand, that I could quote chapter and verse. They're also outlawed in many non-NRA events as well.

Steve Smith
June 10, 2003, 11:43 AM
Lol, I can quote chapter and verse of the NRA Highpower Rifle rulebook.

Check your PM.

Arcli9ht, sorry for the derailment.

jdege
June 10, 2003, 11:47 AM
I thought it was the competitive shotgunners who were most likely to favor release triggers.

Set triggers and two-stage triggers are more common among rifle shooters.

Personally, I don't like the idea of release triggers, because once you pull it back, it's going to fire, somewhere. I like having the ability to change my mind.

PJR
June 10, 2003, 11:54 AM
They are very popular among trapshooters and one of the cures for flinching. Once you've engaged the release mechanism by pulling the trigger the only way to make the gun safe is to open it or to shoot. This can be a complicated exercise with a pump gun having to unlock the action and move the forened while holding tight to your trigger. It's one of the reasons I won't use a release trigger.

Sleeping Dog
June 10, 2003, 12:38 PM
I don't know of any guns that have a "release" trigger.

Some releases for bow strings work that way, but I don't care for it.

I guess you could say that a hand grenade has a "release" trigger, though there's not much use for them in sports (except fishin', of course)

Regards.

Hawk
June 10, 2003, 07:20 PM
Very popular at my old trap club - haven't shot trap in a long time so things may have changed.

At least a couple of guys had O/U's with "pull/release" trigger assemblies for doubles - pull for first round, release for second. Entire trigger assemblies were swapped out between singles and doubles. I never did well with the things. They were primarily used by a vocal, well-heeled minority.

Sleeping Dog
June 17, 2003, 07:57 AM
"pull/release" trigger assemblies for doubles - pull for first round, release for second

This seems like a very odd trigger. If you have a light trigger finger, wouldn't the recoil of the first round cause the release that lights up the second round? Sort of a full-auto 12ga? (Ha, control that!)

Maybe it just takes practice. Darn, another reason to go to the range. :)


Regards.

Jim Watson
June 17, 2003, 09:34 AM
I don't know anybody using a pull - release trigger for trap doubles, but do know shooters with release - pull setups. Most flinch-prone trapshooters eventually go all the way to a double release, though.

Crimper-D
June 17, 2003, 10:16 PM
In the Dean Martin/Matt Helm Spyspoof comedy where the Helm character would shoot a pistol with a resultant FTF, he'd then drop the weapon, the BG's would pick it up with badly scripted quizzical expressions - examine the weapon and BLOOOEY!!! :evil: :neener:
Never seen one - Don't WANT to!:D

gixxersixxer
June 18, 2003, 12:53 AM
My Uncle used to be the state champ in trap shooting. He had a shotgun that would shoot when the trigger was released. I took a couple shots with it, it's pretty weird shooting like that. Kind of like trying to drive with your left foot, it messes you up for little bit then you accomodate.
Competitively a release trigger isn't allowed but if it's for personal use a competent gunsmith could rig one up for you. Plan on spending around $500 though.

Schmit
June 18, 2003, 10:19 AM
Release Triggers are normally found on Shotguns used for Trap. If you have never heard of one or felt one they can be extreamly dangerous.

Shortly after I started where I work we had a older Trapgun with a release trigger come in on trade one. The store manager, having shot a lot of trap, knew exactly what it was and individually set up the rest of the staff. He loaded a snap cap into the chamber and called each member over to "Try this Trigger". The rest of the Staff was off to the side and wasn't allowed to hear the conversation. He called each one up individually. {Most} Everyone got up there, the Manager ensuring the gun was pointed at the ground and pulled the trigger with nothing happening of course. They thought the trigger was broke and then released it with the corresponding hammer strike. :what:

Now, having heard of release triggers at some time in the distant past (possibley from Unintended Conquenses) but never having shot one, I got up there and pulled the trigger with nothing happening. My mind went into overdrive computing the "malfunction" and the type of gun :scrutiny: . I got this sly smile on my face as I decided to try an experiment. I put the firearm in my shoulder, tracked it through an imaginary target and released the trigger as I swung through my imaginary target. Yep, a release trigger.

The Manager then gave everyone a "History" lesson on this type of trigger so that we could inform potential customers what it was. He came up to me after and said "I had a feeling you'd know what kind of trigger it was but wasn't really sure as rare as they are... that is why I called you last." Made me feel kind of good as most of the other Staff had been with the store for years.

They would take some getting use to but the concept, to me, seems reasonable.

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