a test to see if you have gun control


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tylor reimer
March 19, 2007, 09:38 PM
;) this is a test to see if you have gun control what you do is get a dime and set it at the end sight and shoot a empty shell if it falls its bad gun control if it stays up it is good gun control on my mark 2 22 i can shoot reload and shoot again
my dad taught me that;)
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Larry Ashcraft
March 19, 2007, 10:19 PM
:confused:

I'm moving this to Handguns, General and then we'll see if someone can make sense of what you're saying.

10-Ring
March 19, 2007, 10:35 PM
I learned this way back when...-make sure your handgun is EMPTY - then, lying a dime on the front sight & seeing how many times you can pull the trigger before the dime falls...FUN!

Black Majik
March 19, 2007, 10:39 PM
Oh, dryfire with a dime on the slide.

Yeah.. old trick but a good one...

nibb
March 20, 2007, 02:57 AM
Never heard of it, i suppose it doesn't work on all handguns. Its no the same a .22 as a .45

Try that trick on a derringer. :neener:

03Shadowbob
March 20, 2007, 06:24 AM
that's how I learned to control the barrel also except the instructor in the Police Academy years ago said to start with one quarter and move up from there. I started on a S&W 357. It's a good exercise to help you see if you are pushing, pulling, thumbing or whatever else.

Pax Jordana
March 20, 2007, 08:11 PM
OK - so we have translated him into english. Now somebody tell the rest of us how to do it! :D

Dime sits on your front sight? Perpendicular or parallel to the barrel?

Black Majik
March 20, 2007, 10:56 PM
Pax, if you can get a dime to stand parallel on your front sight I'd be darn impressed! :evil:

pax
March 21, 2007, 12:09 AM
Make sure you have a safe place to dryfire, with a good backstop. The TV does not count as a good backstop. Neither does a flimsy interior or exterior wall, k?

Unload your gun. Check that it is unloaded.

Remove ammunition from the room, including all loose rounds and all loaded magazines.

Double check that your gun is still unloaded.

Keeping the gun pointed in a safe direction, hold the gun with its barrel as level as possible.

Without pointing the muzzle at your own hand, place a coin on top of the front sight. Lay it flat, don't try to stand the coin on its edge.

Dry fire. Don't let the coin fall.

Pick up the coin. Put it back on the front sight.

Dry fire.

Pick up the coin ...

Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

pax

WeThePeople
March 21, 2007, 11:17 AM
When I went through the US Army Basic Marksmanship Program, this was the method employed by the instructors to get us to smoothly squeeze M-16 triggers and to learn to focus on the front sight.

It worked wonderfully for me and I even IMAGINED the dime on there with live ammo fires to help my marksmanship. I did this until a smooth trigger squeeze was like breathing.

kymarkh
March 21, 2007, 11:33 AM
This is one way that we were trained in the Army to perfect trigger control. Works quite well if you use the buddy system. It can be a challenge to put the dime on your rifle barrel and 'get back to the trigger' without it falling off...

yongxingfreesty
March 21, 2007, 11:35 AM
i will try this when I get home. see if i flinch or not

Leitmotif
March 22, 2007, 11:35 AM
Keeps coming off when the slide goes back... ooooooh, I see, *dry* fire...

Baphomet
March 22, 2007, 01:39 PM
I find this is much easier when I tape the dime to the front sight.

:p

Seriously though, I would like to find a way to attach the dime to a string or something that connects to the front sight without interfering with exercise. So when the dime does fall I don't spend fifteen minutes looking for it or retrieving it from under the heaviest object in the room... Which of course it's drawn to like a magnet.

pax
March 22, 2007, 02:02 PM
Baphomet ~

Get a handful or two of pennies. Set the pile of pennies next to you. Do your practice until the pile is gone, then pick up the scattered pennies off the floor.

pax

Baphomet
March 22, 2007, 02:14 PM
What you said:


Get a handful or two of pennies. Set the pile of pennies next to you. Do your practice until the pile is gone, then pick up the scattered pennies off the floor.


What I heard:


Get a handful or two of pennies. Set the pile of pennies next to you. Do your practice until the pile is gone, then get your kid to pick up the scattered pennies off the floor.

Genius!!!

pax
March 22, 2007, 02:37 PM
:D

pax

You just decided to have kids so you could make us do all the work, right Mom? -- pax's oldest son when he was six years old.

lionken07
March 22, 2007, 02:42 PM
it doesn't work on my uspc...the top part of the slide is flat :p . You can finch like crazy and the coin would stay put :D

boomer1911a1
March 22, 2007, 02:58 PM
Where are you from, Tylor... and is English your first language? :mad:

j1133s
March 22, 2007, 03:09 PM
When I first tried something like this a year ago, I miss read it and stood the coin on its edge. Now talk about it being difficult :)

Leitmotif
March 22, 2007, 04:03 PM
I use a UspC as well... using the slide, it's a little harder than a blo... er, GLOCK. ;)

You're missing the point though, lionken. Put the coin on top of the *front sight*, not on the slide. Much more difficult to balance, you see?

johndoe1027
March 22, 2007, 09:08 PM
Keeps coming off when the slide goes back... ooooooh, I see, *dry* fire...
hahahahaha :D

ReadyontheRight
March 22, 2007, 11:24 PM
OK. I think I found the answer. I've found that Loctite holds the dime on my barrel extremely well.

But my shooting is not improving. Should I glue on a dollar bill?

Couldn't resist. :evil:

Thank you for the great idea for trigger control.

44AMP
March 24, 2007, 07:48 PM
I do this with my 7.5in Ruger Blackhawk. Balance the dime on the front sight, extend the gun to arms length (without dropping the dime), take the old time bullseye shooters stance, then dry fire. Dime should stay on the front sight until the hammer hits the frame. Have been doing this for over 20 years. Really impresses the kids.

johndoe1027
March 25, 2007, 11:50 AM
Another thread started by tylor reimer that probably has a much more comprehensive and better borne precurser. Anyone noticed that he hasn't reposted to this one either? I'm just trying to see if he even goes back and reads them... :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:

Walkalong
March 25, 2007, 12:31 PM
It's easy when you know there will be no recoil. I can dry fire perfect all day, but when it's the real deal I still screw up some. :banghead:

chipp
April 18, 2007, 08:19 PM
<The TV does not count as a good backstop.>
Pax , considering I have a good backstop behind my house. ( a huge hill bigger than the house) And my wife won't let me buy a new TV, Do you think it would be ok to use my TV as a backstop?

I thought I was doing great with the dime thing until I read this thread.
Didn't know the dime had to stay on after the hammer released. That makes for a much harder angle.

pax
April 18, 2007, 08:34 PM
:D chipp ~

I shot mine. (On purpose, on the range ... but still the most fun shot I've ever taken. I'm easy to please, I guess. Giggled for days.)

The real question is, is there any possibility of someone getting between the gun & the safe backstop? If your TV is against the back wall (rather than a room or two away from the back wall), and the back wall is built right up against the hill, and/or your backyard is not merely fenced off but locked against people going out there while you're dryfiring (and you know your wife isn't out there weeding the roses) -- then go for it.

All common sense, really. The deal with the backstop is, it has to be something that stops a bullet before it can strike something else. The TV itself doesn't count, but the dirt hill behind the house certainly would. If there's a TV between you & the dirt, no biggie. But if there's any possibility of a person getting between gun & backstop, there's a problem.

... /end lecture.

Oh, and good luck with the crusade/plot to get a new TV. ;)

pax

chipp
April 18, 2007, 09:11 PM
Pax, I understand the saftey issues...of course I would wear eye and ear protection also. Does anyone know where do get ear protection for dogs?
......think she'll notice?
I can see this will take some time to plan out.

sw686plus
April 18, 2007, 09:47 PM
I thought the fact that most of my shots hit the center portions of the target consistently would indicate fairly good control.....:confused:

bigcim
April 18, 2007, 10:00 PM
some one post a picture of this procedure

pax
April 19, 2007, 12:52 AM
chipp ~

I've seen ear protection for dogs, somewhere. I think the hard part would be getting him to wear it! :D

Oh, do tell us how the story comes out ...

pax

Seancass
April 20, 2007, 01:20 PM
i'm only posting here so i'll find the thread again later and remember to try this.

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