The Club Poll!


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Warren
March 21, 2007, 12:47 AM
Tree branch? Tableleg? Lead pipe? Rebar? Baseball bat?

Post your favorite blunt instrument!

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Mandirigma
March 21, 2007, 02:13 AM
31" Firehardened Rattan. www.bloodsport.com makes the best ones I've found so far.

SIRVEYR666
March 21, 2007, 08:42 AM
I prefer to carry an aluminum "T-ball" bat ( You know the little 18" bats that the little tricycle-pilots, curtain-climbers, crumb-crunching, cookie-eating monsters use to play baseball with.) on the floorboard of my truck. T-ball isn't illegal...yet.:uhoh:

Sistema1927
March 21, 2007, 08:56 AM
Hickory tire knockers have the advantage of being compact, strong, and aren't out of place in a vehicle.

Here is one (http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/18TK.aspx?feature=Product_5) for less than $10.

walking arsenal
March 21, 2007, 09:46 AM
When i used to study Tang Soo Do my favorite bludgeon of choice was the Bo staff.

I've been out of study for a while now though as they dont offer that in our area.

Since then i've bought a short oak dowel from home depot that i've gotten to be a fan of.

Then of course there is the E-tool i keep in the car.

I like that too. :D

Zero_DgZ
March 21, 2007, 10:20 AM
I have an old aluminum Louisville Slugger that I filled with lead as a training aid. Just drilled a hole in the end, pulled all the foamy stuff out of the inside with a fish hook, and filled it to the brim with lead shot.

It weighs a shade over 11 pounds and is a great upper-body trainer. I can swing it pretty good nowadays, and I imagine if I walloped someone with it they'd go sailing pretty far.

I also have the lighter and much more nimble Redneck Katana, which is just a 3 and a half foot chunk of 3/4" rebar that I paracord wrapped a handle onto. It hurts things.

hso
March 21, 2007, 11:21 AM
From a "emperial entanglements" standpoint, be sure that your favorite blunt instrument has a valid purpose in the setting you keep it in. A decorative but functional mace in you car is a little more difficult to explain than a large socket wrench while that 30" socket handle would seem odd in your bedroom.

As with and H2H tool, be sure to get some minimal training in applying it in self defense. If you wind up with that bat/club/wrench wayyyy over your shoulder someone is going elbow block you and break some ribs.

Mandirigma
March 21, 2007, 04:25 PM
I keep my stick bag in my back seat. Its filled with all my training gear, and easily accessable from the front seat. Honestly wouldn't reach for it if I felt I needed it thats what the chl is for.

hrgrisso
March 21, 2007, 04:50 PM
I've always been a fan of the extendable baton. I think mine was made by ASP.

I know it works as I used the handle to instruct a roaming hand that open windows aren't happy places... :rolleyes:

Pax Jordana
March 21, 2007, 05:38 PM
Tee-ball bat in the trunk. Also, granddad's old "The Club" which we still have a key for, SOMEwhere.. I'm thinking about taking the bat out and just using The Club - it has a less "gee officer I never clean my trunk out" feel to it...

Next on my list is a stickball bat.


Neat story:

One of my clients was in world war II, and then went on to work construction. Poor guy (or his wife either) couldn't tell me anything about it, but he has a stout hardwood (hickory, I think - it sounds like a hickory drum stick when you tap it) piece in his closet. That closet was his hiding-in closet, where the kids would go if somebody kicked in the door. Never really crossed my mind until I read about the Styers-Kengla short-end technique (http://www.gutterfighting.org/coldsteel.html)..:what:

jlbraun
March 21, 2007, 05:44 PM
Red oak suburi bokken.

http://www.karatedepot.com/sites/karatedepot/images/items/wp-ke-13.jpg

RyanM
March 21, 2007, 10:55 PM
Does a framing hammer count as a club?

Devonai
March 21, 2007, 11:51 PM
Any bokken that last more than two or three sparring sessions.

Jlbraun, that's a beauty. I'd save that for Iaido. :)

JShirley
March 22, 2007, 02:48 AM
And so if you have a baseball bat in the vehicle and use the 9mm are you liable for using more lethal force than was your option?


There is no such thing as "more lethal force". Lethal force is lethal force is lethal force. One is possibly more likely to get into trouble for using a knife defensively than a firearm.

Vonderek
March 22, 2007, 05:55 AM
I prefer a hand-carved Buford Pusser-style cudgel.

Actually an ASP is pretty handy in the car's map compartment.

Eleven Mike
March 22, 2007, 09:28 AM
Post your favorite blunt instrument!

Because that's all they're good for:
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/images/004-erb.jpg


:neener:

KMBRTAC45
March 22, 2007, 06:24 PM
In my vehicle I have my 16" airweight ASP, a Surefire E2e and a CRKT 5" First Strike.

Pat McCoy
March 22, 2007, 06:49 PM
37' Blackthorne walking stick.

sixgunner455
March 22, 2007, 07:27 PM
37' Blackthorne walking stick

:what: How tall are you!?!? :what:







Good choice. I just ordered one.

tasco 74
March 22, 2007, 08:51 PM
bought an ax handle years ago for the express purpose of cutting off the split end for the head and wedge.. put a tapered hole in that end and attached a thick leather thong so i can keep it better.... it's been in the car for years....... i like the way the swinging end is alittle curved and heavier.......

modifiedbrowning
March 22, 2007, 09:50 PM
I prefer a shillelagh.

Sharpdogs
March 23, 2007, 10:55 AM
I have a warclub my wife brought back from Africa when she hiked Kilomanjaro. It looks just like the root ball clubs that Native Americans carried. Primitive and simple weapon but packs a wallop.

CWL
March 23, 2007, 01:59 PM
24" lengths of 1" diameter polycarbonate tubes (8' length at TAP Plastics $12 and they'll cut for you). They don't break and make superfast batons, especially if you are an Escrima practioner. Carry them openly in car, onto airplanes -no one has ever given them a second look.

I also have some Mad Dog composite 'sticks', also one 8" length. They havent broken so far.

Have several Newt Livesay WA sticks.

Looking forward to getting a real knobkerrie someday.

Mandirigma
March 23, 2007, 03:20 PM
CWL: those poly carbonate tubes, how much do they bounce? i.e. after a solid strike. I haven't been impressed with the non-organic sticks I've come across, they just bounce off entirely too much.

CWL
March 23, 2007, 09:00 PM
CWL: those poly carbonate tubes, how much do they bounce? i.e. after a solid strike. I haven't been impressed with the non-organic sticks I've come across, they just bounce off entirely too much.

yeah, since they're hollow and light, they're going to bounce, but they don't transfer the vibration into your hands like some plastic batons will. This type of material is definitely better suited towards practitioners of Escrima and similiar stick fighting skills than heavy baton wielders.

While not the thing for one-shot stops, they will do damage though. I have shattered boards with them and beaten them against concrete without damage (a marine buddy worked one over with a hammer for almost 10 minutes when I told him he couldn't break it, he couldn't).

Still, PC tubes are better for trained combinations than brute force.

Zero_DgZ
March 23, 2007, 10:17 PM
37' Blackthorne walking stick.

How about a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce?

(Nobody's going to get this joke. Alas, such is life.)

shecky
March 25, 2007, 02:22 PM
Cold Steel offers an amusing variety of non-edged weapons. Several are new and not yet on the market.

http://www.coldsteel.com/specialtyitems.html

Last time I was in a border town, street vendors had interesting souveneirs, appearing to be short wooden baseball bats, about 20", with an old style church key type bottle opener on the handle end, presumably to legitimize what clearly seemed like a weapon.

Mandirigma
March 25, 2007, 06:52 PM
Several are new and not yet on the market.

I've got a problem with this part of your statement. There is nothing on that page that I haven't seen somewhere else before. They may have not been easy to get but they are hardly new and not yet on the market.

I'm just pointing out that just becase its listed as "new" on a website doesn't mean that it hasn't been around for years.

Pax Jordana
March 25, 2007, 09:41 PM
Quote:
37' Blackthorne walking stick.
How about a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce?

(Nobody's going to get this joke. Alas, such is life.)


Right. A 10 1/2 ft pole. Seuss rolls over in his grave. :neener:


CS makes polycarb bokkens. I dunno how they work, but I have one of their polycarb sjamboks and have wailed on EVERYTHING I can find, no effect on the sjambok itself that can't be cleaned off with a wet paper towel. Fantastic stuff, plastic....

p35
March 25, 2007, 11:02 PM
I've experimented with carving a lot of different forms of hardwood branch wood, but I keep coming back to the tee ball bat.

I do like the German spring baton for concealed hip pocket carry.

A couple years ago Cheaper than Dirt was selling off used PR-24s for $10 apiece, and I got a couple. One of these days either the PR-24 or the heavy bag is going to wear out before I feel like I'm using it better than a straight stick.

Nematocyst
March 25, 2007, 11:53 PM
Can our "clubs" have
sharp metal points and edges (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=95004)?

:evil:

shecky
March 26, 2007, 11:41 AM
I've got a problem with this part of your statement. There is nothing on that page that I haven't seen somewhere else before. They may have not been easy to get but they are hardly new and not yet on the market.

Several are new products from Cold Steel. :rolleyes: Nobody is claiming they invented the club.

What do you do with the nits you pick?

CZ.22
March 26, 2007, 12:01 PM
CZ.22 can play
MY favorite club would have to be my Rentoys Dragonslayer. Technically its a wooden claymore, but whatever. It's great for those social situations that involve ten yelling ten year olds...
www.rentoys.com
Me and my dad have made several clubs. The first one of these would be a piece of pine firewood whittled and wood-burned with a hot knife into a billy club. That lil' kncoker kept my seven-year-old soul safe on many adventures.
Back in '02 there was a large ice storm and our eucalyptas got knocked down. I made a club out of one of the branches. About three feet long, thicker at one end. Lasted two years until one day I hit it on the ground and it shattered...alas.
Third would be a real cudgel. It was a 5' tree that I cut down, peeled and cut all the bark off, and shaped into a deadly weapon. One end, where the rroots had been, was thicker than the other and became the 'head'. Would have been devestating in CQB.
Diito whoever used a shortened Home Depot oaken dowel. My current nightstand piece.

johndoe1027
March 26, 2007, 01:45 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fish billy yet. It's made by Shakespere and it's for fishing of course (as said to police officer after he asked why it was under my truck seat). I kept the handle sticking out from under the seat until I got a CHL and a 38. Its fast and painful for sure. Solid fiberglass about 18". It's new home is under the couch since my g/f doesn't like guns lying around everywhere.
http://www.shakespeare-fishing.com/products/accessories/billy.shtml

Mandirigma
March 26, 2007, 03:12 PM
What do you do with the nits you pick?

Put em up on some paper with tape, and use em for target practice :rolleyes: HEH

Geronimo45
March 27, 2007, 08:58 PM
Favorite club: wooden cane. Looks harmless, takes a load off your feet, and it can do a world of hurt if need be.

Favorite blunt instrument, you said? 230 grain FMJ, .45 ACP. Blunt nose on it, anyways.

busy_squirrel
March 27, 2007, 09:42 PM
A length of 500mcm copper wire wrapped in electrical tape for grip. :what:

Under 2' long and 1" across, and weighs about 3.5 lbs. Because the wire is stranded it flexs on contact, but springs back as you start to pull it away.

A good crack from that'll put a dent over an inch deep and 2-4 long in 4" thick by 8" wide wood.:evil:

rantingredneck
March 27, 2007, 10:00 PM
In my truck I have a 4D cell maglite that rides beside my right thigh in a little cubby hole between the seat and center console. Easily justified, who doesn't need a flashlight in their car?

When I'm walking in the woods (not hunting mind you just hiking) I carry an Indian Police Lahthi (sp?) Basically a 4.5 foot long piece of rattan. Easily justified as your typical walking stick.

Pearl's Dad
March 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
How about a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce?

(Nobody's going to get this joke. Alas, such is life.)


from The Grinch right????

Valkman
March 28, 2007, 03:05 PM
Favorite club: wooden cane.

Same here. Solid hardwood, looks innocent but can split heads open. :D

Pat McCoy
March 28, 2007, 07:02 PM
OOPS, not tall enough for 37' walking stick (or my weight). Lets try 37" walking stick.

coelacanth
March 29, 2007, 01:23 AM
but if I decide to hit you with something it will most likely look a lot like a hickory quarterstaff.

deltacharlie
March 29, 2007, 02:47 PM
ASP tactical baton and the skill to wield it

Spiggy
March 29, 2007, 03:07 PM
I've got a club with a mallet type head :D -Mace? This is the product of boredom at my shop :banghead:

3/4in ID aluminum tube about 2ft long with a solid nylon head made from a 2inch dia, inch and half long nylon bar, drilled a hole in the center and slid on the top of the tube. hammered the top of the tube to close it in.

then a 1 inch steel slug made from 3/4in OD steel stock rod was hammered in with some loctite in it. Finished it off with gorilla glue and a counter balance.

nice and light little club-mace-mallet thingie, great for quick swings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Spiggys_pics/club.jpg

rino451
March 29, 2007, 03:12 PM
four foot hickory club :neener:

steeltiger
April 1, 2007, 06:42 PM
Cold Steel tomahawk handle, and X2 voyager( secondary option of blade if the weight isn't enough), and CS khuk machete with sheath left on.
These sound odd, but thats what works for me!!!:D :neener:

schmidtbender
April 1, 2007, 06:50 PM
anybody old enough to remember Ivanhoe?

Nematocyst
April 1, 2007, 07:23 PM
A mace & chain (flail)Oooo, Mikey likes it! :what:

Sources for those?
Makers? Models? Web links?

MikeG
April 1, 2007, 07:49 PM
I've been accumulating various things lately. I have a 4D Maglite with the LED, but my favorite improvised club/axe is the Cold Steel "Spetznaz" shovel. Since it snows here and I've got a Jeep, I can justify that. Lately I've picked up a 2'x1" steel rod that's ground to a point on one end. It was laying in an intersection out here in the rural part of the county. Could have damaged someone's tires. :rolleyes: (I'm kind of a packrat.) Then I found a 2" by 3' section of steel pipe alongside a road out in the country on my way to work. It's a bit unwieldy, but my rationale is that it can be a "cheater bar" for more leverage on my lugnut wrench. Those lugnuts are tight.
Don't get me started on garage gorillas with air wrenches. :fire:

If the arthritis in my knees gets worse, I'm opting for a solidly made walking stick. :)

swampgator
April 1, 2007, 09:18 PM
A 37" hickory livestock cane sits in on the truck seat next to me. Nothing out of the ordinary especially when you live on a farm.

Also I keep a 3 or 4D Maglite (depending on which I grab on the way out) mounted on the side of my transmission hump.

axeman_g
May 8, 2007, 09:10 PM
6' Ash staff. Wonderful tool and defense mechanism.

Mannix
May 8, 2007, 09:16 PM
Cricket bats work quite well. Turn it sideways for maximum effect. Maximum size you'll find is 38". If you're an athletic type, you may be able to justify having it in your car, but I just keep mine at home.
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11107151/Cricket_Bats.jpg

Warren
May 8, 2007, 09:49 PM
I've always loved the look of cricket bats. However I've never seen one up close.


I might just buy one.

RandyB
May 10, 2007, 07:50 AM
This hiking stick is a custom made job by my dad. It started off as a dymond wood staff from Musuem replicas (they no longer carry them, so if you do know of another supplier let me know please!) It is 5 fot in length and VERY stout. The bottom is made of copper and has a threaded end for various attachments (flat, pointed, etc.) depending on terrain. The top is aluminum capped with my name and can act as a monopod for my camera. A very stout and dependable hiking tool. The only disadvantage is that it weighs quite a bit on long hikes.

Joe Demko
May 10, 2007, 08:22 AM
Oak walking cane. I've been experimenting with some stick techniques from bartitsu with it.

markk
May 10, 2007, 08:26 AM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/kmark/P4200052.jpg

BRASSM
May 14, 2007, 06:05 PM
My normal device carried when I can't have a firearm is an ASP. My favorite blunt instrument is a Bokken. I have several, but my favorite is the synthetic 'unbreakable' Bokken from Cold Steel.

p35
May 16, 2007, 06:53 PM
Here's an experiment I've been fooling with: a traditional Irish shillalegh made from Oregon white oak. Handy, but I'm not sure it's better than a hammer.

Rushifell
May 16, 2007, 06:57 PM
ASP baton is great fun. Also partial to the hardwood bokken, its just not pocket sized.

proud2deviate
May 18, 2007, 02:01 AM
I recently made a neat little sap-ish sort of thing. It's basicly a lead bar that I bent into a hairpin shape, and then filled in the "eye" and soldered down the middle. I rubberized it with black tool-dip.

It's maybe six inches long, by .75 inches wide, by .5 inches thick. Flares out to maybe 1.75 inches at the "head". Weighs about 18 ounces.

I gave myself an experimental thump with it once, not too hard. Will NOT do that again.

Good for all manners of pummeling; you can use either end, use it as a fist load, hammer strike. I need to put some sort of strap or thong on it, though.

glockman19
May 18, 2007, 02:18 AM
Pry bar... tire iron... but my favorite I got as a kid at a Dodger game on Bat Night.

Timthinker
May 18, 2007, 05:12 PM
An inexpensive, strong and effective club can be made from a suitable piece of iron pipe. Why do I favor an iron club? The answer is simple: it works. Iron is much denser than a comparable piece of wood or plastic, so it will inflict greater damage upon an adversary. If you doubt this, look at medieval maces, which are nothing more than glorified iron clubs. Remember, an iron club is so effective that it should never be used unless your life or limb is in immediate jeopardy. That said, I believe it is the strongest club available.

Timthinker

.45 Cal
May 18, 2007, 06:48 PM
34 oz. Louisville Slugger

RancidSumo
May 22, 2007, 08:08 PM
I have an extendable baton that is made with the steel wraped around like a spring. With the whip it gets, it hurts like hell. Aside from that, does beating someone with you pistol/rifle after you run out of ammo count?

fiacha5
May 25, 2007, 11:45 PM
I think the one that I like to have and havent seen here, is a leather sleeve built to hold fifty cent pieces. I have found that running around LA vegas and other high density populations that noone looks twice at a bag of coins. I can even fly with it. :D

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