What if...Your state repealed CCW tommorrow?


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HiWayMan
March 21, 2007, 12:14 PM
What if your state repealed CCW tommorrow?

Granted this question largely applies to those in shall issue states. But what if it happened.

Would you continue to carry your handgun, knowing how easy it really is to keep it concealed?


After 3 years of doing it daily I could not give it up. I can not remeber what it was like before my handgun became my daily companion.

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cheygriz
March 21, 2007, 12:38 PM
I would work hard, and contribute money, to repeal the membership status of my legislators.:p

Sistema1927
March 21, 2007, 12:41 PM
As one of my instructors stated during my first class when NM enacted CCW: "I have been carrying, both legally and illegally, for the past 18 years." Many of us gave a knowing chuckle.

WeThePeople
March 21, 2007, 12:54 PM
Fortunately, Kentucky's Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms in defense of self, Kentucky Courts have long upheld the right to carry openly, and we have strong preemption legislation.

So, instead of loosing my right to even possess a firearm, I would switch to open carry. Yes, I would be prevented from going into many private businesses, but I don't want to give them money anyhow.

redneckrepairs
March 21, 2007, 01:12 PM
Its best not to comment on any contemplated illegal activity before you do it , and after only comment to your attorney lol .

GunNut
March 21, 2007, 01:25 PM
Hypothetically speaking, if I felt the need I would probably continue carrying. But I would have to weigh the benefits and consequences of such actions.

If I were facing a possible felony charge, and would lose all of my guns, then maybe i would not risk it. Then again a misdemeanor, with no loss of gun privileges possible, would possibly be worth the risk especially if I felt threatened.



Of course if possible I would just move somewhere else, where my rights were still protected.

Steve

tinygnat219
March 21, 2007, 01:56 PM
Shoot if CHP went away, I would Open Carry

Technosavant
March 21, 2007, 02:01 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

I will endeavor to comply with the laws of my nation, state, and municipality to the best of my knowledge and ability, and I will encourage and teach others to do the same.

I would also, in keeping with the laws of my state, work within the system to ensure that some new and reasoned people went to work in state government.

Besides, with the way Missouri state government happens to be at the moment, if CCW were repealed tomorrow I would probably die of a heart attack anyway, even if for no other reason than our legislature is on spring break right now. :neener:

03Shadowbob
March 21, 2007, 02:18 PM
I would comply with all laws.:scrutiny: ;)

The-Fly
March 21, 2007, 02:40 PM
simple answer for me. Pack up and move north to Wyoming. I'd lived in a socialist state for 20 plus years (PRK), and had my fill of that.

M2 Carbine
March 21, 2007, 05:48 PM
My Wife's and my safety has always been of primary importance to me and I did anything necessary to to protect my Wife.


When I was a LEO I knew people that illegally carried and I could care less.
Once I even sold a Derringer to a Catholic Priest.:D

Standing Wolf
March 21, 2007, 05:56 PM
I'd continue to carry openly.

revolverman357
March 21, 2007, 06:13 PM
As of right now, I would say that I would continue to carry.

But as we know, we all talk big sometimes, so, If your shall issue state actually repealed CCW, many of us might have to think long and hard about the possibility of doing jail time and being away from our families and friends. I love my guns, but I love my family also.

Nomad, 2nd
March 21, 2007, 07:47 PM
I'd move.

M2 Carbine
March 21, 2007, 08:06 PM
A friend told me that when he went to his first concealed carry class, the class was run by a LEO.

He said the LEO said,
"Before we start I'd like a show of hands if you have already carried (illegally). No trick, I'd just like to know".

When a number of people raised their hands, the LEO said,"OK, now we are going to make you legal".:D

Rumble
March 21, 2007, 08:25 PM
I would conduct myself in a manner that was above reproach.

10-Ring
March 21, 2007, 08:46 PM
IF? :scrutiny: This is CA & if the laws changed 180 degrees, that would mean I would be able to get my carry permit :scrutiny: The reality of it is, the laws here are very anti gun.

ShooterMcGavin
March 21, 2007, 10:11 PM
...the laws here are very anti gun.
I think you mean that the laws are very anti-RIGHTS. The authorities (police, gov't security, etc.) are all allowed to carry what they want, in the manner they want, right? ;)

Okiecruffler
March 21, 2007, 10:13 PM
I suppose I'd go back to doing exactly what I was doing before we had CCW permits.

Autolycus
March 22, 2007, 06:17 AM
Well I have never been able to legally carry.

My problem is that here in Illinois it is a felony to carry illegally. I would lose my right to own guns. And this is what really bothers me. I have no means to protect myself here.

I would love to be able to say I would carry or that I carried illegally but I realized that it is not worth the risk if caught. I am terrified of this as I cannot afford a lawyer and cannot pay court costs. I also want to pursue a career as a police officer and could not do that with a felony on my record.

It really is a conundrum that I am very riled up about.

Autolycus
March 22, 2007, 06:22 AM
I talked to one guy who used to carry a Glock 26 concealed here. He said he stopped when illegal CCW became a felony and was no longer a misdemeanor with a fine. He said that he could not justify carrying and risking getting cuaght because he would go to jail and his wife would not be able to rasie his daughters alone.

Many of us are getting very frustrated with the gun laws and CCW here in Illinois. I know a few of my friends carry illegally and I warn them against it. If they are caught they are screwed and will face a lengthy prison term. The funny thing is that they will then be forced to live with the people that they want to protect themselves from.

I could rant for hours about this and how much it pisses me off but I will end it with this: I will not carry illegally as it is to much of a risk for me. However those of you who exercise your god given rights irregardless of what the government says more power to you and God bless you.

bpisler
March 22, 2007, 06:34 AM
I would return to open carry just like i did for
13 years before i got my CCW permit.

M2 Carbine
March 22, 2007, 02:10 PM
Tecumseh
He said that he could not justify carrying and risking getting cuaght because he would go to jail and his wife would not be able to rasie his daughters alone.


And how will he feel if his wife and daughter are hurt or killed because he can't protect them?

It's obscene that we have let government get this out of control.
Years ago I turned down a very good job flying for the state of Illinois. A large part of the decision was my not wanting to live in a state controlled by those criminal parasites.:fire:

ball3006
March 22, 2007, 03:29 PM
so it is a moot point. Why do you think it is called "concealed carry".............chris3

heypete
March 22, 2007, 03:55 PM
In Arizona, I would continue to open carry.

Open carry is infinitely more comfortable in the summer heat, and one doesn't need any permits or other such stuff. Makes my life easier, and I save nearly $200 in not needing all the classes, fingerprints, and other fees for CCW. (Yes, I've received CCW training before, just not in Arizona. I've read all the relevant laws, and feel comfortable carrying openly.)

tmajors
March 22, 2007, 04:01 PM
Few years ago I was in court for a traffic violation that I was pleading guilty to so was just there to try to get a bit lesser fine (I did).

Anyway the case before me was a guy that got busted for carrying concealed without a permit. He got a $300 fine and the judge stated he would get his firearm back once the fine was paid.

So, the question is if my state repealed CCW would I still carry? For only a $300 fine (misdemeanor), I get my gun back, and probably a slim chance of actually getting caught? Yea I'll carry.

Out of spite though I'd probably just start carrying open just to rub it in.

RioShooter
March 24, 2007, 12:49 AM
I will follow all laws that are established from the United States Constitution.

ArchAngelCD
March 24, 2007, 02:11 AM
Easy question.... If it was no longer legal to carry concealed I would carry openly. I wouldn't break the law and lower myself to BG status. Anyway, if CCW was outlawed I’m sure when I changed over to open carry I would be in the majority, not minority. (It would make carrying a lot easier, that’s for sure!! LOL)

joesolo
March 25, 2007, 08:58 PM
I think I'd find another legal valid way to protect myself and family then get proficient in using it/doing it.

magnumman44
March 26, 2007, 10:11 PM
Ya'll just come to Virginia, where some get their permits by having a Hunter safety permit and a clean background/clear fingerprints.

Confederate
March 27, 2007, 11:15 PM
It's easy to say that you'd continue carrying, but when states make it a Class III felony, you'd have to really consider what you were doing. Remember, if you're convicted, there's no more right to even own a firearm. And if you're caught in the possession of one (shooting), you could face another conviction and jail time.

In Maryland, one of the worst states, carrying one handgun can mean jail and having all your other guns confiscated. The jackbooted bastards can literally empty your safe. Police powers in Maryland are outrageous.

With this situation, what would you really do?

Autolycus
March 27, 2007, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Confederate:
It's easy to say that you'd continue carrying, but when states make it a Class III felony, you'd have to really consider what you were doing. Remember, if you're convicted, there's no more right to even own a firearm. And if you're caught in the possession of one (shooting), you could face another conviction and jail time.

In Maryland, one of the worst states, carrying one handgun can mean jail and having all your other guns confiscated. The jackbooted bastards can literally empty your safe. Police powers in Maryland are outrageous.

With this situation, what would you really do?

Exactly. There are a lot of people who say that they will carry regardless of the law. I would ask them to come to Illinois and carry. Its a felony here and you will get into deep doo-doo for carrying.

Or go to New York City and carry without a permit. See what happens? IT is the same as in the original posters situation.

Sean85746
March 27, 2007, 11:57 PM
I would switch to open carry. Then again, Arizona law reads that a gun is NOT concealed..."If ANY part of the gun or holster is visible".

Now, with that being said, it isn't enforced that way...I would adjust my method of carry to let some part of the holster be visible, and if in the presence of LE, I would simply UNcover the parts that weren't already visible.

But I don't see it happening.

Confederate
March 28, 2007, 08:28 PM
Another thing to consider is this. You step out one day packing heat and you have a stroke, a heart attack, or get hit by a car and guess what they'll find? Just keeping your nose clean doesn't always mean you won't be found out. I heard a cop say one time that he just bumped into people if he saw a bulge. "I can make a gun like that!," he said, snapping his fingers. 'Course now there are cell phones, but you don't want to get caught where carrying is a felony.

dralarms
March 28, 2007, 09:33 PM
I suppose I'd ether move or switch to a tazer :evil:

Geronimo45
March 28, 2007, 09:48 PM
"I heard a cop say one time that he just bumped into people if he saw a bulge. "I can make a gun like that!," he said, snapping his fingers."
Use thunderwear and sue him for sexual harassment. :evil:

mountainclmbr
March 28, 2007, 11:42 PM
I would open carry (if legal and no disturbing the peace hassles) or vote with my feet and move to a free state.

Walkalong
March 29, 2007, 09:53 AM
I would work hard, and contribute money, to repeal the membership status of my legislators

Yep, and not carry until then..;)

Srigs
March 29, 2007, 09:56 AM
My carry permit is good for another 3 years so I would punt until then. I would work to lobby to get it re-enacted.

Mark8252
April 2, 2007, 02:21 AM
I obey the law regardless if i agree with it.
I would help get that law removed from the books.

:) :) :) :)

Tinker2
April 2, 2007, 04:41 PM
I would think about the fact that all the names and
addresses of the people who carry are at the disposal
of those who would take your guns.





Tinker2

obxned
April 2, 2007, 05:01 PM
A friend of mine said "Screw'm, they violated my civil rights and I'll darn well carry when and where I want."

romma
April 3, 2007, 09:02 AM
thank the stars for Keltec... They are a fun,,,target pistol.

Feanaro
April 3, 2007, 09:09 PM
I would vote with my feet and find another job 'n place to live where basic human rights are respected.

Reddbecca
April 3, 2007, 09:54 PM
What if your state repealed CCW tommorrow?

It'd be the biggest legislative massacre America has ever seen. It'd be like Custer's Last Stand.

Zundfolge
April 3, 2007, 09:59 PM
I'd probably leave because things like repeal of CCW don't happen in a vacuum. In all likelihood there would be a bunch of other things the state would be doing that I couldn't stand.


As long as unlicensed carry isn't a felony I'd probably still carry for the few months I was still here.

Outlaw Man
April 4, 2007, 10:29 AM
It's hard to say. Open carry is "illegal" (I still don't think the state Constitution allows that law) here. I think the most obvious options would be move (preferable, if possible - much less jail time), ignore it and carry concealed anyway (might not ever get caught, but bad if you did), or become a test case for the unconstitutionality of the open carry prohibition (jail time is certain).

Part of me wants to say "stay and fight it," but who knows what I'd actually do? There may be other options I haven't thought of, yet.

xd9fan
April 9, 2007, 12:23 AM
It'd be the biggest legislative massacre America has ever seen. It'd be like Custer's Last Stand.
bullets or votes????

Autolycus
April 10, 2007, 11:33 PM
I dont think it would be quite Custers last stand. Remember the gun confiscation videos from hurricane Katrina? No great stands or firefights there. Nobody yelling Molon Labe and dying for their rights. Just a bunch of people pissed off that the government confiscated their firearms.

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