[firestar]

I have some .45acp ammo that I want to sell because I don't have a .45acp anymore but I don't know the laws regarding this. Anyone know?

[willyjixx]

well cabelas does it? UPS maybe!

[Ian Sean]

Sportsmans Guide usually has good deals, I think it has to go UPS ground?

[Pilgrim]

You can't send it through the mail. If you send it UPS ground, you have to declare it and pay a hazardous materials fee. It generally isn't worth it.

Pilgrim

[Leatherneck]

It generally isn't worth it. Pilgrim may just have it right. I recently bought some ammo at an estate auction, and successfully advertised it for sale here on THR. All the oddball lots (30-40 Krag, .303 Brit, .455 Webley, etc. )that I had no use for were immediately spoken for by various THR members around the country. One who lives near me came to the house and picked his up. The others I've been trying to ship via FedEx for almost three weeks now. I packaged the boxes properly in bubblewrap, taped the new boxes securely, filled out with a typewriter the Dept. of Commerce "Dangerous Goods" form, labelled each box on all sides with "ORM-D" and wife dropped it off at the nearest FedEx place that accepts D.G. shipments, 30 miles away day before yesterday. The D.G "specialist" assured her that everything was in order. Upon arrival at work today, I had a voice mail from 7:30 PM last night informing me that they couldn't ship it because I hadn't noted the weight on each box. Invited me to call back tonight and discuss.

All this for a couple hundred rounds of old ammo for which I've paid $30 for second-day delivery.

Bottom line: if you can dispose of ammo locally in person, do so. It ain't cheap or easy to ship via FedEx (and I assume UPS), and it ain't legal to ship via postal service. :banghead:

TC
TFL Survivor

[jsalcedo]

I order from cabelas and if you order enough the fee isn't that bad.

It sure is nice to have 50Lbs of ammo magically appear on your doorstep:D

[EOD Guy]

Here are the Department of Transportation regulations on shipping small arms ammunition:

Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173

173.63 Packaging exceptions

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices. (1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:

(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are use to project fastening devices.

(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

Part 172 (Marking)

172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side that the designation.

(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter.

[Poodleshooter]

Ammo shipped UPS ground DOES NOT need a $20 HAZMAT fee. Only powder and loose primers need that. This is per the UPS HAZMAT questions phone line.
Mark it ORM-D on the box, and package it as above.