Time for a .357 Supermag X frame


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Saami
March 21, 2007, 11:59 PM
Now that Smith and Wesson has a cylinder good to 71,000 psi, why not commercialize the 357 supermag?

Case length is 1.610", which compares favorably with the 1.625" case length of the .500 S&W and leaves plenty of room for long heavy bullets, with a high sectional density moving at high velocities up front...

Take one X frame, attach a smaller bore barrel, and drill more (but smaller) bores into that beefy X frame cylinder...

With the medium bore size .357 you could potentially fit a lot of rounds. There are tasty 8 shot N frames, of couse. So at least 8 should be possible in X frame. I've never actually seen an x frame in person, but it looks a whole lot bigger than N in the web photos out there. Granted that prudence may require some extra wall thickness between the bores of the supermag, but perhaps 9 rounds, maybe as many as ten (depending on pressure levels) ...

Could be the best dual purpose (hunting and silhoutte) gun ever.

who's with me?

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Action_Can_Do
March 22, 2007, 12:46 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing one, but I don't think the caliber is popular enough to warrant it. I would also love to see a N-frame smith with a 4 inch barrel with half underlug in 10mm, but I'm not holding my breath.

Jim March
March 22, 2007, 02:34 AM
We would do better with a more modern bottleneck.

The ills of the early revision 38/44 Bain and Davis were cured by a "Mark 2" version with different shoulder angles...the second rev is sometimes known as the "357/44B&D" and that's a term used by the Bain and Davis gunshop very recently.

The B&D is a 44Mag necked down to 357. There are a number of very good reasons for going this direction version a "stretch".

unspellable
March 22, 2007, 08:23 AM
Ruger & remington decided to go commercial with the 357 SuperMag and as so often happens when the biggies take a wildcat commercial the felt they had to fix what wasn't broke and the 357 Maximum fiasco resulted. Elgin Gates warned them against it but Ruger didn't want to make the frame window long enough for the 357 SuperMag. Properly loaded, the 357 Maximum works well enough but the Remington factory load gave it a black eye. Some of that probbaly rubbed off on the 357 SuperMag.

The 357-44 B&D will pretty well match the performance in a standard frame. There are a couple of wildcats based on necking down the 41 Mag and 414 SuperMag cases.

Smurfslayer
March 22, 2007, 02:12 PM
...

But make it scandium.:neener:

.41Dave
March 22, 2007, 05:59 PM
A scandium X frame with 10 rounds of .357 Supermag... Oooooooo! I want one!

KONY
March 22, 2007, 07:08 PM
Forget it! Make mine a 10-shot .357Magnum with an additional 10-shot 9mm cylinder (ala the Ruger Blackhawk)! :cool:

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