[HK9]

Loaded some 9MM Rem. 115 Gr. JHP with Clays. Started @ 3.5 Grs. of Clays & went up to 3.9 Grs of Clays which is listed as max charge in Hodgons Book. Recoil is still mild @ 3.9 Grs. accuracy is very good but cases still fail to eject (stovepipes). Any coments or ideas?

[Steve H]

It sounds as if your stovepipe problem was going on before you tried Clays. If that is the case I would be looking elsewhere and not at a different powder. How clean is the gun? Is the ejector/extractor clean and in good shape?

[HSMITH]

Probably a recoil spring that is too stiff. What gun? What springs?

[JDGray]

With 3.6gr Clays & 124gr fmj, My Glock 19 barly cycles and the brass lands on my feet. Nice cream puff load, but not for my glock.:D

[HK9]

The gun is an HK P2000 about 5 months old which I bought new. I keep the gun clean but I'll take a closer look @ the Extractor/ Ejecter. As far as the springs I really have no idea as this is the spring that came with the new gun.

[HK9]

The gun is an HK P2000 about 5 months old which I bought new. I keep the gun clean but I'll take a closer look @ the Extractor/ Ejecter. As far as the springs I really have no idea as this is the spring that came with the new gun. Also I don't have this problem with the same Rem. 115 JHP & W231.

[Jim Watson]

Clays is a fast burning powder. You will note in the load data that at maximum charge weight and pressure it gives substantially less velocity than their other powders, which means it is generating less recoil to drive the action. I load 9mm (and .45ACP) with HP38 and have no such problems. There are a lot of other powders to choose from.

[layusn1]

I loaded some 9mm Winchester 124gr FMJ with the HP38. They were good accuracy wise. I used 4.3 grains if I recall correctly. They did not eject very well though. My CZ75 and my wife's Sig 229 kicked the cases up instead of out and several of them were landing on our heads or arms. Not sure what to do about that but if I can get my hands on some more of those bullets I will try .2 grains more. I am trying X-treme plated 125 RN with the same powder and it eject well but I'm not getting accuracy that I am happy with but I still think HP38 is a good powder to give a look at.

[robctwo]

3.2 Clays under 124 gr LRN runs my Sig 226ST. Nice clean soft shooting.

[Walkalong]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=261361

Check these loads out. Not soft loads though.:)

[solvability]

I, use 3.3 Clays with LRNs 124 gr and they run sweet in my Sig 226 but they do not make power factor so I cannot use them in IDPA - great for practice. I recommend you go to titegroup - very versatile in the 9mm/40/45

[perrytrails]

Had the same problem with clays in 45 acp. Book lists 4.6 to 4.9 max for 185 grain with clays. About a third of what I loaded wouldn't cycle the action in the two guns we were shooting. Very accurate, and a powder puff load. You could tell by the lack of recoil if the gun functioned properly after every shot.

Shooting a H&k compact, and glock 36 ( both guns had 1000's of rounds of factory ammo, with out any failures )

I tried clays first because I had a few lbs for shotshell loading. Won't be using it for 45 anymore.