whats the best 9mm auto ever made?


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cajun47
March 24, 2007, 11:48 PM
and how much???

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LeonCarr
March 24, 2007, 11:52 PM
Glock 17, around 450-500 new, around 350-400 used.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
P.S. You are opening a big can of worms starting a thread like this, but it should be fun :).

briansp82593
March 24, 2007, 11:53 PM
beretta or any glock, sig, and hk

glockman19
March 24, 2007, 11:58 PM
Glock 17, 19, followed by Sig, HK Beretta IMHO.

New Glock 17, 19 $400-$500 New or a little less used.

casio02478
March 25, 2007, 12:43 AM
Glock 19 all the way, same price as the 17.

outofbattery
March 25, 2007, 12:52 AM
Glock 19. IME the best of Glock's range and a testament to simplicity and sound design.I shoot some other pistols better and think many are better looking and better made,but the 19 _works_ and that's what counts most.

I have Sig (X3),Beretta,S&W,Browning and Ruger 9mms as well and _ALL_ of them are good guns.All of them are reliable and easy to shoot,what truly separates them comes down to mostly subjective elements and even then,it's almost impossible for me to say that my G19 is actually _better_ than the P226 or P239 or S&W 3913. I honestly don't think that it is better in measurable ways,just that if I had to only have one, it's the one I'd pick.

XavierBreath
March 25, 2007, 12:53 AM
Best in what way?

TexasRifleman
March 25, 2007, 12:57 AM
Yeah, "best" is pretty open to interpretation.


I'm voting Browning Hi Power.

Baba Louie
March 25, 2007, 01:00 AM
SIG 210? North of $2k

But as others have pointed out... Best... what mean you by "Best"?

innerpiece
March 25, 2007, 01:02 AM
no such this as "best".. n it certainly wouldnt be a glock..lol

Deer Hunter
March 25, 2007, 01:02 AM
I'll be the first CZ fan to chime in.

CZ75.

cudaman440
March 25, 2007, 01:04 AM
:neener: Browning P-35 $$$, CZ 75 $350-$450. The only 9mm a man needs. All the rest we buy to irritate the wife.:cuss:

sm
March 25, 2007, 01:07 AM
BHP

BamBam-31
March 25, 2007, 01:07 AM
Best as in most accurate? Off the top of my head, I'd say the 210, 952, P7M8, and even the X5 should all be in the running.

Waywatcher
March 25, 2007, 01:12 AM
I read best as: The most reliable, durable, combat-accurate, easy-to-maintain pistol...

or in other words...

a Glock

armoredman
March 25, 2007, 01:13 AM
CZ75.:cool:

aguyindallas
March 25, 2007, 01:24 AM
Glock 17 for general purpose social work.

Glock 19 for carry

Cant get any better IMHO, especially for the money.

stormspotter
March 25, 2007, 01:30 AM
Glock, since they are my favorites.

But I have heard that the Sig 210 was the top of the line 9mm.

To each their own.

longeyes
March 25, 2007, 01:34 AM
Gaston Glock hit one out of the park with the 9mm Glock design. I have the 17, 19, and 26, and they are, currently, the only 9mm pistols I own. If I buy another it will be a dupe of one of the three I already have.

possum
March 25, 2007, 02:15 AM
i would say that the glock 19 and 17 series would be the best. that might change in the future, when other guns have been around as long. but glock has been going strong for a long time. though the glock is probally the best there are many others in my opinion that will do the trick just right i believe there can be only one best, but gun makers are doing a really great job of making guns that are great and many have the oppurtunity to be the best. ie sa xd, s&W m&P, h&k, etc.

stdlrf11
March 25, 2007, 02:48 AM
CZ P-01 or CZ75. More accurate, safer to operate and better looking than a Glock anyday. :neener:

stdlrf11

tnieto2004
March 25, 2007, 02:51 AM
CZ 75

RevolvingCylinder
March 25, 2007, 02:52 AM
Pistole 08 Luger

Lone Star
March 25, 2007, 04:29 AM
The usual answer for that, based on workmsnship, durability, and extreme accuracy, is the SIG P-210. Costs over $2,000 usually, when you find one in the USA.

But is is NOT the most practical. Some can't operate the safety well in a firing grasp, and the magazine release is in the butt. Capacity is just eight shots.

Practically, I'd go with the CZ-75/85 or the Star M-30. The Browning Hi-Power is also good, but wears out sooner if shot a lot with hot ammo.

Lone Star

Autolycus
March 25, 2007, 04:48 AM
I would have to say a Sig 228 or Sig 226 because the are some of my favorites. It really depends on what you define best as.

1 old 0311
March 25, 2007, 07:48 AM
CZ, any.

Mac Attack
March 25, 2007, 08:54 AM
BHP $400+
Sig 210 $2k+
HK P7 $1k+

Pilot
March 25, 2007, 09:24 AM
Yes, best is a relative term, but my favorites are:

BHP
CZ-75
HK P7M8 or PSP

XavierBreath
March 25, 2007, 10:14 AM
I like my Star Modelo B and my Colt Commander in 9mm.

Steelharp
March 25, 2007, 10:20 AM
Gaston Glock hit one out of the park with the 9mm Glock design.

I read best as: The most reliable, durable, combat-accurate, easy-to-maintain pistol...

or in other words...

a Glock

Has any military anywhere, ever, chosen the Glock as its sidearm? I know tons of PD's have... but has it ever seen official military service? Or is it basically a civilian thing?

Baba Louie
March 25, 2007, 10:38 AM
Has any military anywhere, ever, chosen the Glock as its sidearm?You mean besides Austria, Belgium, the Dutch and Norway? I read over on TFL in a thread that Iran has ordered 30k (or was it 50k?) Glocks for their use (don't know if that is for military or police use tho').

distra
March 25, 2007, 10:39 AM
BHP ~$400-$500

Steelharp
March 25, 2007, 11:00 AM
Baba Louie, thank you. I knew someone would know...

Angus Podgorney
March 25, 2007, 11:44 AM
You mean besides Austria, Belgium, the Dutch and Norway?

I find it pretty hard to believe that Belgium would issue a pistol that wasn't homegrown. :eek:

armoredman
March 25, 2007, 11:57 AM
Baba Louie, those 30K G-rock pistols were ordered for the Iraqui police.

Lone Star, those Star M30s were some nice service sidearms, almost bought one years ago, didn't have any cash at the time. Good solid pistols.

CZ still rocks the Casbah, though.:cool:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PCR3.jpg

Duckster
March 25, 2007, 12:36 PM
BHP, all there is to be said in IMHO:neener:

waynedm
March 25, 2007, 12:43 PM
Original Wonder Nine - CZ 75.

Colonel Jeff Cooper, long-time advocate of the Colt 1911, hailed it as the best-designed double-action autoloader available.

ARTiger
March 25, 2007, 11:15 PM
CZ 75BD or PCR

Steelharp
March 25, 2007, 11:17 PM
I forgot to say in my earlier post that CZ's get the nod from me...

Geno
March 25, 2007, 11:21 PM
Browning High Power

RNB65
March 25, 2007, 11:31 PM
CZ for me.

skinnyguy
March 25, 2007, 11:40 PM
Ruger P89:D

10-Ring
March 25, 2007, 11:42 PM
The best? For me, I guess I would give the honor to my USP 9 w/ match trigger & trijicon n/s.
The best will be defined slightly differently for every shooter and in my book, they'd all be right ;) Why? because if they've found a handgun to meet most / all of their needs they can just worry about shooting ;)

schmeky
March 25, 2007, 11:45 PM
CZ and and Sig. CZ is a better value for the money and just as much pistol as the Sig.

I own a CZ-75 and a West German Sig P-226 (and a Glock).

Charshooter
March 25, 2007, 11:46 PM
SIG 210 high dollar

Glock 17 low dollar

DirksterG30
March 26, 2007, 09:13 AM
CZ-75 Series

dcloudy777@aol.com
March 26, 2007, 02:09 PM
H&K P7M8/13... no contest. As reliable as anything man has ever made, small enough to conceal, ~95% as accurate as the SIG 210, the safest semi-automatic operating system ever devised. Oh yeah, and it wasn't bulit by a shovel maker!! :D

DanO

SWMAN
March 26, 2007, 02:18 PM
The one that saves your life! When, and if, that happens, its all a risk reduction exercise.:)

obxned
March 26, 2007, 02:55 PM
How about the EAA Witness? It's a very well made and finished CZ clone. Also very reliable and accurate, and priced much lower.

Marshall
March 26, 2007, 03:05 PM
Browning Hi Power!
:)

knifestuff
March 26, 2007, 03:08 PM
Walther P5--shoot it and you'll understand...

PPGMD
March 26, 2007, 03:47 PM
I read best as: The most reliable, durable, combat-accurate, easy-to-maintain pistol...

The M9 has proven itself quite extensively in military trails.

If I was going to war I would likely want one of three pistols, a M9, a H&k Mk-23 USSOCOM, or a 1911. All three of this pistols have proven themselves in US Military tests.

Beyond that it's all about personal preference, I the trigger and adjustable grips on my P99c AS, but I like the overall feel and caliber of the USP Tactical .40 (my next pistol purchase).

BHPshooter
March 26, 2007, 04:18 PM
Gonna have to go with the FN Hi Power. :)
http://www.hunt101.com/img/336165.jpg

Special mention goes to the Beretta 92FS and CZ-75, also. ;)

Wes

mmissile
March 26, 2007, 04:33 PM
Hk P9S Combat. accurate as hell, butter-like trigger, concealable, and just an absolutely wonderful pistol to shoot.

GeorgiaGlocker
March 26, 2007, 05:07 PM
Glock 19 $500

pablo45
March 26, 2007, 08:34 PM
GLOCK any of them 400.00-500-00 best money you'll ever spend

Texas Colt
March 26, 2007, 08:40 PM
Browning Hi Power... the original double-stack 9mm is still the best.

The Law
March 26, 2007, 08:41 PM
SIG

or

BHP

salthouse
March 26, 2007, 08:43 PM
Steyr M9 or S9. What a Glock hopes to be when it grows up.

modifiedbrowning
March 26, 2007, 10:21 PM
Walther P88/P88 Compact.
Usually $1000 or more.

461
March 26, 2007, 10:42 PM
Sig P210 first, Browning Hi-Power Second, and then the Glock. The Glock is still probably more durable and reliable than the first two but for pure art they have to beat the Glock.

Edit to add: There are many outstanding 9mm handguns on the market, and many I would love to own, but the three I listed to me represent my personal best choices. CZ, H&K, other Sigs, Beretta, S&W's, all amazingly accurate and reliable sidearms.

glennc
March 27, 2007, 12:00 AM
Homeland Security just ordered 65,000 Sigs with he DAK trigger, P226,P229,
P239.If I were going onto combat that's what I's be carring. I've owned 2 Sigs (P226 &P 239) They're not cheap but worth every dime.

22LongRifle
March 27, 2007, 12:14 AM
John Browning himself said the Hi-Power was the best design he ever made! All else are wantabes!

But the CZs are a great "double"!

2nd place goes to Sig 226.

3rd is shared by the Star BM and the Firestar.

Jerry

Ratzinger_p38
March 27, 2007, 12:28 AM
This is a tough one for me. I'll have to put it into 2 parts

Pre-1970 -

Walther P38 (Not post WWII P1s, the frame is of a poorer quality after 1945)
Makarov (East German version only - solid shooter, inexpensive)

Post 1970

Walther P88 (expensive as hell, but very very nice)

HorseSoldier
March 27, 2007, 12:39 AM
I was going to be the first to say Walther P-88, but I see modifiedbrowning and Ratzinger p38 beat me to it.

If I was going to war I would likely want one of three pistols, a M9, a H&k Mk-23 USSOCOM, or a 1911. All three of this pistols have proven themselves in US Military tests.


I've seen so many M9 Berettas go south with broken locking blocks that I'd hesitate to go downrange with one, and would just about sell a kidney to change it for an M11/Sig P-228 if if it were an option. The Mk 23 is pretty much a failure as a handgun -- rarely used, not much liked by its intended users.

1911, though, I'd feel well armed with.

John Browning himself said the Hi-Power was the best design he ever made! All else are wantabes!

I love P-35s, but Browning was dead for 8 or 9 years before the first finished pistol ever saw the light of day. It was quite a bit different from the prototypes that existed before Browning's death.

bpisler
March 27, 2007, 01:46 AM
Guess i've got to be different as i like the
3913/3914 series of pistols from S&W.I've
got a 3914 Ladysmith that has a great D/A
trigger and S/A isn't bad either.It has been
accurate with 115,124 and 147 grain loads,
my best is 2.5" for 8 shots ay 25 yards off
a bench. with milwall 147gr JHP's.

Ratzinger_p38
March 27, 2007, 02:58 AM
@HorseSoldier

I can confirm the unreliablity of the m9. When I was in the Army, I had one completely fail on me.

swingset
March 27, 2007, 06:06 AM
Sig P210.

No doubt about it. If 9mm pistols are women, it's Kate Beckinsale in her underwear.

BsChoy
March 27, 2007, 11:10 AM
In my humble opinion, the glock 17/19...both reliable and accurate and strong enough to handle the strongest loads for most hd, sd, target needs.

deltacharlie
March 27, 2007, 12:22 PM
from my limited 9mm experience and for my $$, it's the Glock 17: relatively accurate, very reliable, cheap ($499 new, $350 used) with excellent manufacturer support and after-market gear choices.

hostilecrab
March 27, 2007, 01:23 PM
IMHO the Sphinx 3000 Standard.
Cost: between $2k - $3k.

Chupacabra
March 27, 2007, 01:53 PM
Browning Hi-Power.

With the Sig226 running a very close second.

okcorral
March 27, 2007, 06:42 PM
Glock is decent but by no means the best. Many people carry because it's cost effective being fairly cheap. Cost vs value.

I would say the best widely available is the Sig 226. Then Beretta 92FS.

Pelleman
March 28, 2007, 06:39 AM
SIG P210 is without a doubt the best made and most accurate pistol ever put in production. Every pistol is(was) testfired at the factory and the maximum spread allowed was 30mm (1,2") at 50 meters (55yds) for a full magazine. As far as I know, no custom 1911 maker can meet those standards even today (in terms of guaranteed accuracy).

However - it is not the best constructed pistol. The frames are prone to cracking and most are after years of shooting. Over here in Sweden they still dominate in competition but are now being rivaled by SIG X5, X6 and Pardini GT9.

The HK P9S is one of few factory made pistols made prior to 1995 that comes close to the P210 in terms of accuracy. Very reliable and with an interesting concept of the rolling lock mechanism.

If one sets accuracy aside, I think the Glock stands out in terms of allround features. Being a late 70s, early 80s design it ought to be in all museums of industrial design.

dck
March 28, 2007, 09:28 PM
go shoot some guns and find out what the best pistol is. My vote goes to cz . I have a p-01 myself did not like the glock.

KINGMAX
March 28, 2007, 09:41 PM
That would have to be something you would have to answer for yourself. Go to a range were you have a large selection of rental pistols. Get with the manager, explain to him you are at a point of purchasing a 9mm and would like to try out some of his rentals. I am sure you could work out something and let you try out a few of your choices. Some might charge you an hourly fee, a good businessman may let you try them for free if you purchase from his store.

blackbok
March 29, 2007, 12:13 AM
SIG 225

das028
March 29, 2007, 12:17 AM
Glock 19 or Glock 17

PhillyGlocker
March 29, 2007, 07:28 PM
It is the Glock 19. There is no 9mm better. At least that's what I think. Gaston almost came up with perfection. Only math is more perfect than the 19.

CountGlockula
March 29, 2007, 08:44 PM
das028 Glock 19 or Glock 17

Agreed.

Redhat
March 29, 2007, 08:47 PM
My favorite is the Browning HP

then the CZ75

vagabundo94
March 30, 2007, 07:50 PM
I agree with the others that have pointed out that "best" is subjective. However, to me, the Beretta Billennium is the hands-down "best" 9mm ever built. Followed by the Beretta Steel I, and then followed by the Beretta 92 Stock. All of these have the Brigadier slide, which is heavier than the standard 92 slide, and they all have a frame-mounted safety.

Fit, finish, weight, balance, and smoothness of the action in these guns are unmatched, in my opinion, with the Billennium leading the pack.

Now, I'd never use any of these as my CCW gun, for example, so there are certainly various "Best" themes we could go down and I would not list these guns on them.

But for a general "best" 9mm: Beretta Billennium.

Edited to add picture:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/vagabundo94/image002-1.jpg

P-Cat
March 31, 2007, 12:47 PM
Beretta 92FS.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/goonanj1/Beretta92FSInoxa.jpg

Stevie-Ray
March 31, 2007, 10:08 PM
I would have to go with the Glock 19.

Question: Why is the H&K P7M8 always mentioned in these threads and not the P7M13?

rick melear
March 31, 2007, 11:06 PM
T Series Browning HP

rangerruck
April 1, 2007, 04:26 AM
cz , between 375, and 500, depending on the model you choose.

koussevitzky
April 1, 2007, 04:56 AM
My favorites:
1. Hi Power
2. Glock 19
3. CZ75

Maybe the best ever:
Sig P220

The best value:
CZ75

The nicest:
Hi Power

The coolest:
Glock 18 with a 33 rd magazine

The best all around:
Glock 19

s&w 24
April 1, 2007, 05:27 AM
most accurate and best stocks on any handgun ever.

Whiteymin
April 1, 2007, 09:35 AM
Browning High Power

SX1guy
April 1, 2007, 10:17 AM
Browning Hi Power, most any model, but I prefer the older T-Series, I seem to be able to sight better with it and it feels really comfortable.

I have never shot a Sig 210 but would really like to shoot one as a comparison to the BHP, I hear the Sig210 is the Tops for 9MM......

I am also wanting to try the Glock 17, it also feels rght and the sighting seems good....

regards

SX1guy
April 1, 2007, 10:22 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/335243547_9df9deae53_b.jpg

My shooters.....

SX1guy
April 1, 2007, 10:36 AM
Sig 210...Best 9mm ever made...???

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/441950373_c1e07c4d46.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/441950389_23fbe2d953.jpg

varoadking
April 1, 2007, 01:17 PM
Beretta

ROFLMAO

Sven
April 1, 2007, 01:31 PM
> CZ75.

But only if you have the right grips (http://www.imageseek.com/hakan). :)

http://www.imageseek.com/sven/gallery/albums/cz75/grip_left.jpg

http://www.imageseek.com/sven/gallery/albums/cz75/grip_right.jpg

SX1guy
April 1, 2007, 03:48 PM
Nice collection, nice gallery...

You need a BHP in there to be complete....:evil:

gandog56
April 1, 2007, 05:59 PM
I haven't had enough 9mm's to make a truely worthwhile comparison. I have had a Ruger P85, which was not accurate at all, A Ruger KP89DC, which was fairly accurate, And now own a FN Hi-Power, which is so way more accurate than the prior two it is no comparison. My FN was about 550 NIB.

kgriggs8@yahoo.com
April 1, 2007, 07:02 PM
What is the lamest thread ever made? That is a better and more original thread. These threads should be banned and so should anyone stupid enough to respond to them.

I love 9mms but I can't say which is "best". Like others have said, best for what? If I were to take a 9mm as a self defense gun, I would choose my Beretta 92fs. For CCW, my Kahr K-9. FOr traget shooting it would be something else and so on.

Jeff Timm
April 1, 2007, 07:40 PM
The best 9mm?

1930's Commercial Luger imports to US of A.

1940's No fancy quality, just war production. Maybe a pre-war P.38 or HP Walther.

1950's The commercial blue Browning HP.

1960's SIG P-210

1970's SIG Luger produced in Switzerland.

1980's - Present. No much worth writing home about, outside of a self defense sidearm which goes Bang everytime you pull the trigger. Maybe a S&W custom shop 952? But , I haven't seen one in the shops.

Geoff
Who thinks we lost a bit of the Art when we demanded cheap and reliable. :confused:

elrod
April 1, 2007, 09:56 PM
BHP, no contest

minutemen1776
April 2, 2007, 04:32 PM
9mm is my favorite pistol caliber, and I've owned/shot many. For me, the S&W 3913 has been the "best." It shoots like a full-size and carries like a mouse gun. I just plain like the darn thing.

Alaskapopo
April 2, 2007, 04:48 PM
Its hard to say what is the best because that means something different to everyone.

I would make a list of what I consider to be excellent 9mm's.

1. Glock family 17,19,26,34
2. Sig 226, 228, 225, 239 210
3. Beretta 92 family
4. HK P7 and USP
5. Browning HP
6. Walther P99
7. Smith M&P
8. Springfield XD
9. 1911's in 9mm of course

JazzyD
April 2, 2007, 09:50 PM
Too many variables to say which ones are the best.

briansp82593
April 2, 2007, 10:17 PM
glock and beretta are #1 in my book

sfmittels
April 3, 2007, 01:22 AM
"Best" is so subjective. Personally, I have been the most impressed by the design of the Taurus 92 - copy of the Beretta, but you have a first shot choice of hammer-down DA or cocked-and-locked SA. The safety is like a 1911, not like a Beretta. Build quality isn't up there with Beretta, and I traded mine off before anything could break.

I LOVE my Beretta 92FS Police model. It's accurate, totally dependable and built like a tank. The DA and SA trigger pulls are just a bit behind a Sig. But, it's big, so here we get into subjectivity.

My Glock 19 is a fantastic gun to shoot. Totally dependable, adequate accuracy. Of course, being a Glock, it's not the sexiest gun around, and I question the safety of the "safe action" trigger if you give one to a neophyte.

I'm sure a well-made 1911 in 9mm would be great, as would a Sig (I own a Kimber and two Sigs, but none are in 9mm so I can't comment).

Now here's your chance to beat me up: I owned an HK P7M13 a number of years ago. I DISLIKED it intensely. I know there's a mystique surrounding the P7, but I just can't see it. Subjective recoil is like a .45, even though you're only shooting a 9mm. The squeeze cocker is great in concept, but it makes a loud click when you un-cock it (talk about advertising your presence). The trigger pull, technically a SA, was not so hot - a Sig or a 1911 beats it in every way. Commence firing.

legion3
April 3, 2007, 06:20 AM
Never shot one but I have heard that the Walther P88 is awesome out of the box- hi capacity too

I also have heard the Sig 210 is the creme de la creme of the 9mm world.

But best :confused: the Glock 19 I carry that goes bang when I need it to will always be "the" best. ;)

Pelleman
May 17, 2007, 06:57 PM
Interesting to see all posts not stating the SIG P210.

Actually, there are very few pistols in the top league. SIG P210, X5, X6, Smith & Wesson PC, maybe a few top-of-the-line custom 1911s (and very few of them actually are), the o-ring HKs (Expert & Elite).

What else?

BHPs, Glocks, CZs etc are not even in the same ballpark. To compare them with for example a P210 is like saying that a Volkswagen Beetle is as good as a Mercedes SL63 AMG.

marksman13
May 17, 2007, 07:08 PM
CZ 75B or it's clones for me, followed closely by SA-XD.

MikeRussell
May 17, 2007, 07:29 PM
The best for ME are the CZ75 variants, specifically the SP01. It runs around $480-520 depending on where you look.

nemoaz
May 17, 2007, 10:51 PM
Homeland Security just ordered 65,000 Sigs with he DAK trigger, P226,P229,P239

Where did you hear that and who is supposed to be getting them? As far as I know all DHS components are currently receiving HK P2000s as quickly as they can be produced. ICE and CBP are getting P2000s for sure so I cannot think of who would be left to account for that number. In fact, HK won the competition outright, but SIG sued claiming that labeling SIG a failure would be libel and DHS settled. However, my understanding was that they were going to be declared "co-winner" but would not actually provide any pistols. There is one small component that I know to be continuing with their Sigs. Maybe they are also buying some for the Coast Guard. I just cannot think of anyone else who could be account for that amount of pistols.

DennisE
May 17, 2007, 10:58 PM
HK P7M8
Springfield EMP
Kimber Ultra Aegis II
S&W 952
S&W M&P 9C
SIG 239 SAS

Dennis

cherryriver
May 17, 2007, 11:24 PM
Glock G17, and that's coming from a guy who doesn't like Glocks in the least little bit.
But I sure do respect it.
Bill

gandog56
May 17, 2007, 11:32 PM
BHP

Best ever

Richard2003
May 17, 2007, 11:38 PM
For those of you who voted for the Glock the question was the best not the ulgliest :)

cherryriver
May 17, 2007, 11:58 PM
Oh, no, Richard2003-
It's a triple crown winner: ugliest, uncomfortablest, and unfunnest.
But it's still a superior piece of tool-machinery, and that still hurts to type out.
Now, please, I'm tucking my Colt GM under my pillow and calling it a night.
Bill

SilverState
May 18, 2007, 12:09 AM
Glock 17
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/anonymous335/Glock17AHR.jpg

jbharned
May 18, 2007, 12:37 AM
Glock. (any)
It's the AK or the handgun world.

M92FS
May 18, 2007, 05:21 AM
quote by cajun47 : whats the best 9mm auto ever made?
and how much???


Are you getting a 9mm pistol for ccw ? recommended you go to your local range and rent some of your favorite 9mm pistols and try it out at the range. choose the gun that you shoot best , feel most comfortable with and the price is within your budget. :)

Patriot-Brewer
May 18, 2007, 07:56 AM
Cz-75

Shipwreck
May 18, 2007, 12:39 PM
Hands down - Walther P99 9mm - A/S trigger (ONLY the A/S trigger)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/chromewalther1.jpg

FMJMIKE
May 18, 2007, 05:49 PM
Glock G-19 is the BEST !!!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/G19b.jpg

KINGMAX
May 18, 2007, 05:52 PM
Glock 19 & the 17, Tarus PT92

McCall911
May 18, 2007, 06:02 PM
My vote: Smith & Wesson 5900 series.

$400-$500 NIB.

Wordsmith
May 18, 2007, 06:38 PM
A year ago I probably would have said Glock 19.

But I'm starting to think that the HK P2000 has surpassed it in almost every way. If mine continue to perform like they have for the past several months, I think they just might deserve a spot at the top of the "greatest" list. Glock aims for perfection, but HK actually achieved it with the P2000.

CraCZ
May 18, 2007, 07:43 PM
CZ-75 if it fits your hands. Plus any of its clones. They fit like a glove!

lindermant
May 18, 2007, 08:08 PM
either of these :D

http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/pdp_lft_1.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/75commander9mm_1.jpg

armoredman
May 18, 2007, 09:12 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0143.jpg

wunderkind
May 22, 2007, 10:39 AM
Another Glock 19 vote. Large enough for uniform issue, small enough to carry IWB with 15 +1, 21 oz. unloaded.

Spartacus451
May 22, 2007, 10:41 AM
Hi-point

RustyShackelford
May 22, 2007, 02:56 PM
Just ask 007, ;).

Really the ASP custom 9mmNATO is a S&W model 39 with 236 modifications. If you want old school cool, check it out. ASP pistols run about $3000-4000.00USD. :cool:

Rusty

Big ups to the FNH/Browning high power, SIGarms P-226 series and the HK P-2000 too. :D

pablo45
May 22, 2007, 05:43 PM
glockglockglockglockglockglockglock17 or 19 which ever fits you better

col_tapiocca
July 8, 2007, 06:09 PM
"Standard" SigSauer sucks! They have sheet-metal forming slide. I've a P225 and a
P226 both lose their blue finish quick (compare to my Glock 17)

I prefer Glock or CZ75 clones, they are more durable guns.

WarMachine
July 8, 2007, 06:14 PM
There is no "best" and there probably will never be. Each has it's positives and negatives. The "best for you" will be found after renting a few at the local range and seeing which one you like the best.

Black Adder LXX
July 8, 2007, 08:09 PM
Beretta, CZ, Sig, H&K, Smith, Ruger, Kel-Tec, Taurus, High Point, Skyy, Airsoft pistols, and Glock in order of best to worst.

Just kiddin... :) Berettas are the best IMHO. About $600.

Keoni
July 9, 2007, 09:14 AM
Browning Hi-Power

ranger335v
July 9, 2007, 01:30 PM
The best 9mm made is still no more than a .38+P loaded with light bullets. Meaning it's not much as a defensive weapon, not in the same league as a .45ACP at all.

pdowg881
July 9, 2007, 01:37 PM
here we go....

TehK1w1
July 9, 2007, 04:13 PM
Ranger335v, that is a whole different can of worms, please don't bring it up here. As for the "Best" 9mm, for what purpose? competition? Combat? CCW? I would have a different answer for each purpose. However, most of them would still be some variant of the CZ-75, so that gun gets my vote.

cbsbyte
July 9, 2007, 04:53 PM
The 'best' 9mm is all based on personal interpretation and bias. Personally I would put the Sig P210, and its modern derivatives as the best. Others would probably say the Browning HP which is also an excellent pistol.

MIL-DOT
July 9, 2007, 11:32 PM
what annoyed me most about this thread wasn't that it's been done to death, but folks crying about "how you define "best". the 9 mm. pistol AND round aren't geared towards target shooting,but are designed for combat. and nothing is more important in that regard than RELIABILITY. we can all figure out what to do when a gun consistently shoots a liittle to the left, but a gun that WON'T shoot,in combat,is another story. everything else,from cost to ease of maintenance to ergonomics to avaiilablity of parts to euro-sexiness to tradition to what your daddy had to,yes,even accuracy.... are ALL secondary to RELIABILITY. and as much as i love my 226 and my CZ-75 israeli clone and my recently sold walther P-99 and beretta 92, my glocks are the the best this planet has to offer.

Glock22
July 10, 2007, 12:07 AM
Glock 17 or Glock 19.

brashboy
July 10, 2007, 12:42 AM
This is my first post on the Glock - I mean HighRoad - forum. Nice to be on board. Although one person mentioned it in a list of great guns, my choice is unequivocally the XD-9. It is superb (ugly, but so are Glocks and many others) in every way. The fact that it borrows concepts from other guns, like the trigger safety from you-know-who, is immaterial. The question was "best" 9mm, not the most original design (lots of pretenders to that throne), nor the gun with the most after-market gee-gaws (Glock?), nor the most beautiful (surely, the CZ-75).

Anyone who has read the XD torture test article (http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php) or the Chuck Taylor review (http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/SpringfieldXD-9.html) knows that the XD-9 is a major new presence on the scene. Taylor even called it the first true 21st century pistol. I think Chuck (and I) will be vindicated in time.

Every gun mentioned above is a great gun, of course. I can't prove the XD-9 is best, any more than I can prove that Marilyn Monroe was sexier than Rita Hayworth. It's just the kind of thing you know. Wow, I need a smoke; was that as good for you as it was for me?

brash

mjb
July 10, 2007, 01:43 AM
Belgium Browning High Power Capitan

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