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fish2xs
June 11, 2003, 03:48 PM
...but I'll get to that in a second. First a movie question. In 'Blackhawk Down' two Delta boys (the ones who died) were put down in a helicopter to cover Durants downed blackhawk until help arrived. What type of rifles were they carrying? (they appeared to be 2 different models)


Back to my spinning head. Not having a hunting or military background, trying to keep track of the models, etc is killing me. Is there a site-for-gun-idiots which categorizes the variants - hopefully with pictures? Manufacturer models are hard enough, but the mil classifications are burying me.

thx!

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Destructo6
June 11, 2003, 03:51 PM
One was a M16 varient, M4 SOPMOD. The other was a M14 with some sort of red dot sight.

Frohickey
June 11, 2003, 03:52 PM
Prolly a M14, and a M4.

Too bad Gordon and Shugart didn't each have a M249 SAW, and 2 combat loads each.

Ian
June 11, 2003, 03:52 PM
I know at least one had an M14 with a red-dot sight. I thought both did, but I could be wrong there.

You might take a look at http://www.securityarms.com - they have piles of pictures organized by weapon name.

cslinger
June 11, 2003, 03:53 PM
I believe there is a site called security arms or something to that effect that does a nice job of putting a picture to a great many types of firearms.

The guns used that you saw were a Springfield M1A/M21 sniper rifle and I believe a CAR-15 AR-15 varient. The CAR-15 is really just an early version of the current M4 many of our troops carry.

Don't take what I say as gospel but I am pretty sure those were the firearms in question.

cslinger
June 11, 2003, 03:54 PM
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/all.htm

Chris

Not to fear we will have you full on into gun nutdom in no time. It won't be long before we ruin any time of media entertainment involving any kind of weapon.
:D

Here is a CAR-15
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0300/335.htm

Here is a M21
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0400/483.htm

El Tejon
June 11, 2003, 03:56 PM
fish, like anything our militree does is not confusing?:D

IIRC (I can never watch whole movies, it's more background noise for me while I'm doing stuff), probably M16 or M4 and an M14. IIRC from the novel, one of the operators held a personal preference for the larger .308 cartridge as "big guns stop fights" and SA-D was willing to tolerate (if not encourage) this preference.

What's to be confused about in the American Army? Just remember the M4 is a carbine and an AFV. An M16 is a rifle and an IFV.:D

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