S&W M642......opinions
coltjeeper
June 11, 2003, 05:21 PM
I finally, after putting it off forever, got a Smith 642 Airweight Centennial .38 snub.
Went and put just shy of 200 rounds through it. 130 gr. Win. white box and some Win. 158 gr. +P LSWCHP. Not as bad of a recoil as I thought it would be, even with the +Ps. And amazingly accurate too!:D
Just wanted to share my happiness with this snubbie with everyone on here. And ask what you think of yours?:scrutiny:
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jake01
June 11, 2003, 08:26 PM
I have a tough time shooting straight with mine. I know it's for close range but it better be real close for me to hit it. :(
LWCmdr45
June 12, 2003, 01:34 AM
The Airweight Centennial is my favorite pocket gun. My last time at the range, I put a cylinder-full of FBI loads into 1 7/8" at 25 ft., which is the farthest I can envision using it. I'll *never* sell this one!
Steve
BigG
June 12, 2003, 07:38 AM
They are quite simply the jewel in the crown of pocket power projection devices. :cool:
ACP
June 12, 2003, 08:32 AM
Simply awesome. ALWAYS there, completely reliable, fairly potent with +p rounds. What more can you ask for? Like LWC said, I'll never sell mine.
keithernTN
June 12, 2003, 09:20 AM
Got mine a few months ago and I love it. Light but not to light and easy to conceal. I have taken it to the range about four times, about 400 rounds total, and got decent groups. Then ordered a set of laser grips for it and this thing kicks but. I took it out Tues. for the first time with laser grips and was impressed with accuracy out of the box. The laser comes sighted to 50 ft. and it shot where I pointed. This is the ideal carry rig for ME. High stress situation life on the line; point, look for the dot, and squeeze. Awesome.
E357
June 12, 2003, 10:53 AM
Sorry to say - the best gun I ever sold.
Elliot
tsenn
June 12, 2003, 11:03 AM
What's the difference between the 642 and the 442? Which do you guys prefer? Thanks
keithernTN
June 12, 2003, 11:28 AM
642 is stainless steel.
442 is blued.
This is the only difference that I know of.
BigG
June 12, 2003, 11:50 AM
To the list that includes sliced bread and canned beer should also be added the S&W Airweight Centennial. :D
Pappy John
June 12, 2003, 01:01 PM
Mines a non-dash version, so I don't put +P's through it. And I'm with Jake in that any target has to be mighty close. I still love it on my belt though. Its the only one in the stable that I can wear all day and actually forget its there.
sw442642
June 12, 2003, 01:25 PM
Great pocket gun. I had a 442 and then the 642. The latter is easier to clean as you can use the lead wipe cloths that would eat the bluing on the first.
I'm not as accurate with it. But at typical self-defense distances it is fine. It goes out more than my full sized semis.
BigG
June 12, 2003, 01:27 PM
They are pretty accurate; you just have to invest more time shooting it to develop the potential.
concerned citizen
June 13, 2003, 08:29 AM
Nice pocket gun.
If you shoot often you can maintain good acuracy.
The only down fall for me is limited capacity and slow reloads.
But even that is a strech on my part, I try not to have a comando mindset ...:p
ACP
June 13, 2003, 07:24 PM
As it's my always gun, summer and winter, washing the car, walking the baby, raking leaves, planting shrubs, out to dinner, at work, buying groceries -- I'm talking ALWAYS with me, folks -- I choose stainless. No rust, no worries, no special treatment. Carry a couple of Bianchi Speed Strips, Fox Labs pepper spray, a cell phone, and a Benchmade AFCK, and -- IMHO -- you are prepared for 99% of life's unpleasantries.
Kahr carrier
June 13, 2003, 10:28 PM
Love mine ,its pretty accurate, and almost disappears in your pocket.
drod
June 14, 2003, 11:50 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/pa232a626d1255016aaed27ff620b15b8/fc658cee.jpg
Simply the best pocket gun ever made.
jake01
June 17, 2003, 10:26 AM
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keithernTN
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Location: Tennessee
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Got mine a few months ago and I love it. Light but not to light and easy to conceal. I have taken it to the range about four times, about 400 rounds total, and got decent groups. Then ordered a set of laser grips for it and this thing kicks but. I took it out Tues. for the first time with laser grips and was impressed with accuracy out of the box. The laser comes sighted to 50 ft. and it shot where I pointed. This is the ideal carry rig for ME. High stress situation life on the line; point, look for the dot, and squeeze. Awesome.
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What laser sights did you get and where did you get them? Also, how much were they? Do they add to the bulk of the gun?
keithernTN
June 18, 2003, 09:58 AM
jake01
I've got crimson trace laser grips on mine. Got them from thunderwear.com for about $190 tax, shipped and all.(took four days for delivery) List was $178 I think. They offer two styles, the one I have is made of a molded plastic and looks just like the factory grips except a small bulge on the right side near the top which houses the laser, IMO they add no bulk, and I like them better than the factory ones. They also have another style grip for the J-frame which covers the backstrap and does add bulk to the gun and I believe it is kinda rubbery feeling. Some people don't like the recoil of the little J and the small grip so they would probly opt for the bigger grip.
I like the smaller grip for concealability and it fits my hand just fine. This is the first laser sight I have ever considered owning and I would definitly recommend one to anybody interested in one for thier J-frame. Get one you'll love it.
Volpe
June 21, 2003, 10:38 PM
Well I carried a 36 for probably 25 years and 2-3 years ago retired it and got my 642-1. Absoutely a great gun--power for the size--weight--conceability--its got it all. Like others in this thread it goes with me everywhere all the time. Summer I have an ankle hoslster and anytime else I have a galco belt slide. Standing at 7 yards I can put 5 shots in a 1" bull (slow fire), and that my friends is all you need. I figure that in the event I ever have to use it it probably will be around this range. Rapid fire is harder to control (I use 158 gr. swchp +p) but keeping in mind the range it should work just fine, I trust it.
I absoutely love my 36 but it was time for a hammerless airweight +p. For awhile I considered a sp101 but I was always a smith guy so I went with what I knew the best and did'nt look back. Yup, that smith is a tough act to follow...
GoldenLoki
June 22, 2003, 03:43 PM
I have a 442-2 with the Crimson Trace overmolded rubber grip. They really absorb the recoil. What more can be said about the gun itself? It delivers!
GL
http://goldenloki.com/guns/smith/442-2-2.JPG
Zip06
June 23, 2003, 10:15 AM
I nearly bought a 642 but in the end I opted for the 442. Nothing wrong with either. For a holster I purchased the Kramer pocket holster and carry in my right front pocket. This has turned out to be an ideal concealed carry setup. I carry it alot. Make no mistake, this is no target pistol but practicing point shooting at short distances makes for one lethal technique. I have several boxes of Federal Nyclad 125 grainers and am quite impressed with them. For practice I use the Winchester 130 grain white box ammo. J-frames are to pistols as Bull Dogs are to dogs...they are just different.
mgobel
August 19, 2003, 11:07 PM
642@ $379.
I also have $100 in Cabelas bucks for a net of $279 plus tax. Any reasons not to move ahead with the purchase?
Mark
Stephen A. Camp
August 20, 2003, 12:52 AM
Hello. I carry a Model 642 anytime I'm up. It's often primary, but ocassionally a backup.
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Snubnose.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/38specialor380acp.htm
Best.
BigG
August 20, 2003, 01:13 PM
In my book, the Smith Centennials are right up there next to canned beer on the flow chart of human innovation. :D
MrPink
August 20, 2003, 03:05 PM
I love the Centennial line. I orginally started with a 642. Then another for when I am in Maryland. The 640 made sense as a range gun so got that. Then the 342PD came out so had to have it (selling the older 642) and recently bought a 340PD. Won't shoot full power magnums out of it but Federal PD Hydrashoks are uhhhh, managable. The 342 & 340 are superlight guns that are easy to forget. 4 Centennials and not a dog in the bunch.
SAWBONES
August 20, 2003, 03:43 PM
Like Mr. Camp, a little J-frame (either the 642 or 340PD) is most often my BUG, but is sometimes a primary (only) CCW during the Dog Days of summer.
In any case, it's ALWAYS there.
bubbygator
August 22, 2003, 12:09 AM
I have a HP & a Glock-26, both with lasers, & I like them; but I still missed my old J-frame. So I recently found a "deal" on a nickeled 442 in a pawn shop. I surely intend to get the Crimson Trace LG-205 to go with it.
Coronach
August 22, 2003, 10:24 AM
I carry the 642's cousin, the 640(-1), in an ankle holster as a BUG. I love it for what it is- a small, powerful, dependable defensive package.
I freely admit that I do not shoot it that well at range, but I am also aware that the primary role of this gun, for me, is a 'shove-it-in-his-gut-and-pull-the-trigger-until-it-stops-going-bang-or-they-stop-flopping' endevour. The only thing more last-ditch than this is my knife...and fingernails, I suppose.
I have always considered a set of lasergrips, as I dislike the sights for longer-ranged shooting...just never found extra cash in the slush fund when I was in the mood.
Mike
SnWnMe
August 22, 2003, 03:33 PM
Mine is a 442. It is definitely a handful to shoot. Precision aimed fire is not it's forte. I practice one handed double taps from point or weapon retention stances. Someday I will have a 642 so I can have a "Good and Evil" set.
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