Looking for a .40, small hands


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GunnySkox
March 28, 2007, 12:30 AM
H'lo all,

I did a search, and couldn't find any similar queries, so here I go.

First, allow me to illustrate the size of my paws:

I have a .45 1911 (Springfield Mil-Spec); its mainspring housing is arched and the trigger, she is short. If I hold the pistol properly, with the barrel parallel with my forearm, and the grip safety nestled into the middle of the web of my hand, I can barely reach the trigger with the pad of my index finger. If I scoot my hand around the grip to get more finger on the trigger, or just to get more comfortable, the gun is fiercely unpleasant to shoot.

So, I ask y'all, please give me options and information on .40 pistols that'll fit my small hands.

Thanks,
~GnSx

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Mandirigma
March 28, 2007, 12:42 AM
just wondering have you tried slim grips?

JJE
March 28, 2007, 12:45 AM
If you like the 1911 pattern, the Springfield EMP is supposed to be available in .40S&W. There's a recent thread on this board with photos comparing the grip size of the EMP with a standard 1911 - much smaller. The EMP was introduced in 9x19.

possum
March 28, 2007, 12:50 AM
you can also sheck out the kahr line up of fireamrs. they have all kinds of models and i am sure that you will find a model that will fit you right. as a matter of fact i own a .40 kahr the k-40 which is a single stack, small, compact, durialble, accurate, concealble as all get out little gun. the k series is the steel framed series. there are various other models some cost less and some more. with different attention in different areas. there are polymer models avaliable, which are al little light er but personally in the .40 and above i like the steel frames, it balances out the gun better even unloaded, and the recoil dosen't seem as snappy. the triggers are nice and they will remind you of a da revolver triger, they have good sight set and they are pretty darn good shooters for the intended purposes.

good luck and please let us know what you get!

busy_squirrel
March 28, 2007, 01:58 AM
First off, I have small hands for a guy with relatively long skinny fingers.

I love my S&W 4013. Grip is narrow side to side but long front to back. Uncocked trigger hits the 2nd pad of my trigger finger. My hand wraps almost 3/4 of the way around the whole grip, looks funny, but feels right.

I tried a Kahr CW40 this weekend. Seemed even narrower, and my hand wrapped almost too far around and got in it's own way. That said, I still might be getting one soon as it wasn't unbearable,and I could get used to the grip with some practice.

My Glock 27 has the widest grip of the 3 guns and is the only double-stack, but somehow didn't feel too wide at all. In fact, the circumference of the grip was great, its just not a fun gun for me to shoot.

Sylvan-Forge
March 28, 2007, 02:26 AM
GunnySkox,

I feel your pain.

I'm sitting here holding my Springer GI with the arched MSH and short-trigger and it sounds like we have the same size paws.

I've got a H&K P2000sk that "would" fit, were it not for the LEM trigger.
I'm going to attempt to fit up (some of) the parts from the DA decock version.
That should do it.
See if you can fondle a H&K P2000 DA w/decock. (Would have to be carried condition 0 for fit)

Also, SiG P239 works for me if carried cocked. (Safeties be damned)

+1 on the EMP.

Everything else I've tried (alot) does not fit proper.
I can't remember if the Kahr K40 was a proper grip or not, I just shot with it and returned it to its rightful owner.

Best of luck kinsman ;)

p2000sk
March 28, 2007, 02:35 AM
See my name? Heckler & Koch makes it, it might not be for you but maybe take a grip on one. Mine has an ambidextrous mag release and an ambi slide catch\release lever. Comes with two different thickness backstraps.
IMO it looks more appealing than some other things also, if you like a beauty in the collection.

makarovnik
March 28, 2007, 02:39 AM
You must have small hands. My wife has trouble reaching the trigger on a j-frame but she can reach the trigger on a 1911a1 no problem. She is 5'-1". As another poster suggested, you could try the super slim alumagrips for a 1911a1 and also switch to a flat mainspring housing/backstrap. The only other pistol my wife can shoot is a Kahr or possibly some of the .22's out there like the Walther P22.

p2000sk
March 28, 2007, 02:42 AM
oo7, dear sir,
I am sorry to hear that you dislike your LEM trigger group, I adore mine.
Do as you choose, however IF I were in your shoes;
I'd pay H&K a small fee to perform the DAO conversion for you. I value the warranty.

Sylvan-Forge
March 28, 2007, 02:56 AM
I hear ya p2000sk..I'd have H&K do it in a heart-beat, trouble is they tell me that it requires a different frame due to the decock mechanism.
I dig the LEM, but it just isn't ergonomic for me paws.

So, I'm stuck playing home gunsmith. Not that I'm complaining, as I like to tinker :D

Oh, it'll be DA though, not DAO.

RON in PA
March 28, 2007, 03:02 AM
Rent a S&W MP40, they come with 3 grip sizes, one of which is quite slim.

MPanova
March 28, 2007, 04:18 AM
Check out the Taurus PT140

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=38&category=Pistol

tbtrout
March 28, 2007, 07:52 AM
Sig P229

oscarswanson
March 28, 2007, 09:22 AM
+1 on the Taurus Millenium Pro PT145. It fits small hands and works great and is about $325.00 new if you get the deal I did. Make sure you get the 3rd generation.

usp_fan
March 28, 2007, 09:43 AM
I too have small hands. The USP compact in .40 is slim for a double stack and fits my hand well. It has an ambi mag release and can be carried cocked and locked with the trigger to the rear for easy reach.

The Kahr line of pistols has one of the shortest reaches I've found in .40 and may be your best bet.

--usp_fan

flashman70
March 28, 2007, 10:20 AM
I also have small hands/short fingers (cadet medium golf glove.) I had to have a short trigger put on my Sig P229 to enable me to grip it properly. The P239 is single stack so it fits me much better, albeit at the expense of mag capacity.

I love my P2000 (w/ LEM trigger.) You may also want to consider the Walther P99, which has three backstraps to choose from. It is a very ergonomic gun. The EMP suggestion is a good one - I also like the 1911 platform and am going to check out the EMP at the gunshow this weekend.

Coronach
March 28, 2007, 10:36 AM
I second the M&P or M&P Compact. Make sure you try the small grips.

Browning Hi-Power in .40 ... if the 1911 is too big, you can at least try this one, but I bet it is too big, also.

Mike

Redneck with a 40
March 28, 2007, 10:56 PM
Give the Xd-40 a try, I have smallish hands and it fits me awesome.

RNB65
March 28, 2007, 11:03 PM
Sig 239.

Kahr Arms makes a whole line of compact .40's. Some folks have problems with the polymer models, but the all-steel models get high marks.

PPGMD
March 28, 2007, 11:30 PM
Try a Walther P99 with the smallest grip insert.

ArchAngelCD
March 28, 2007, 11:41 PM
Try the Kahr PM40 if you like polymer or the MK40 if you like Stainless Steel.
http://www.kahr.com/front.html

Taurus also makes a nice .40 that will probably fit your hand.
Try the PT-140 Pro in Blue http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=36&category=Pistol
Or in Two Tone http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=38&category=Pistol

Good luck finding something that fits your hand well...

antsi
March 29, 2007, 12:10 AM
SIG has a "short trigger" option for most of their guns. This decreases the distance the trigger finger has to reach.

The SIG 239 is a single-stack .40 cal, and with a "short trigger" installed it would be about as friendly to a small handed shooter as any semiauto I can think of.

sabre2
March 29, 2007, 12:21 AM
I have small hands. I like Springfield xd, hk usp .40 compact, Kahr, FN/Browning Hi-Power, and 1911.:)

Terry1810
March 29, 2007, 12:31 AM
SIG 239 with the short trigger. Small hands dream.;)

- Terry

CWL
March 29, 2007, 12:41 AM
a Kahr in .40SW should work for you.

mdao
March 29, 2007, 01:11 AM
Same problems for me, more so due to fat fingers.

The best fit for me is really 1911 with a flat MSH, slim grips, and a short trigger. Medium trigger in the same configuration is on the edge of comfort.

M&Ps would also be worth a try. Both the fullsized and compact, with the small backstrap, are the best fitting double stacks I've tried. A bit long when the trigger is fully extended, but about as good as it gets after I take up the slack in the trigger. Reset is also pretty short, so my finger doesn't have to shift from the optimum position to reset the trigger. A Bowie Tactical short trigger job would take care of that.

beagler
March 29, 2007, 02:30 PM
I too have small hands/fingers, and I have had luck with the Springfield XD, Taurus 145, and currently I'm shooting the M&P40. The Smith allows you to use different palm swells, which is very nice.

J-Dog
March 29, 2007, 07:56 PM
I have extremely small hands and held a Glock G22 yesterday and must say that the grip wasn't big, I'd say more for medium hands. Anyone know which grip is bigger the G22 or the USP?

GeorgiaGlocker
March 30, 2007, 01:59 PM
Try a Glock 23.

Eyesac
March 30, 2007, 05:13 PM
I have smallish hands, and I love the G27. Also, even though I hate the XD (ford vs chevy) I've held an XD in .40 and it does have a smaller grip than a G27, so check them out. I've also held a Kahr, and I really didn't like it but again, small grip. Good luck!

Autolycus
March 30, 2007, 05:42 PM
Try the HK P2000 and HK P2000sk. You can change the grips to fit your hands. Also look into the Walther P99 models.

tlhelmer
March 30, 2007, 08:59 PM
Glock 23 or 27! I know some have cautioned against them, but give them a try at a local gunshop.

Sundles
March 30, 2007, 10:47 PM
I had a grip reduction performed by ROBAR on my wifes Glock 23. Made the grip darn small and now her tiny hands fit the Glock.

denfoote
March 30, 2007, 10:58 PM
My advice would be to visit a well stocked gun shop and explain your problem. If the clerk is not a complete biased idiot, he should be able to help you out. Or if you have a favorite shop that you visit regularly, ask them.

Ask to see several candidates. Try each one and buy the one that fits the best!! ;)

mrcpu
March 31, 2007, 01:09 AM
I have small hands, and couldn't reach on my S&W M457, but a 1911 fits perfect. An XD in 9 and .40 fits perfectly, .45 is just a hair of a stretch. But for some reason, M&P 9 is a reach.

Go to a well-stocked gun store, and do some fondling.

But a 1911 with flat mainspring housing should get you pretty darn close.

Omaney
March 31, 2007, 04:32 AM
I have the M&P40. I use the smallest grip insert. My wife's hand is very small and she has little difficulty with the M&P...my .02

talentandskill
January 11, 2009, 07:49 PM
S&W 40ve has a very small grip not adjustable but i have small hands at it works good for me

J.R.W.
January 11, 2009, 08:07 PM
It's too bad. I own almost every gun suggested thus far and I dont mind sharing. The Walther P99 is an excellent gun for small hands. The backstraps really allow you to tailor the gun to your needs. The XD-M also affords this option. The Sig P229 is also of uneniable quality and with the short trigger really fits the hand well. The grip is a bit wide, but I also have the Hoque Monogrips on mine. The Glock G23 is a bit awkward at first, but I've grown accustomed to it. If I could only keep one, it would have to be the Sig if thats any help. Good luck.

burningsquirrels
January 11, 2009, 09:19 PM
look for anything with removeable backstraps on the grip.

ar10
January 11, 2009, 10:07 PM
The xd9 or 40SW, although both have the same grip and the same thickness. Compare it with a like cal in Glock, SIG or any other semi auto. You'll see/feel the difference, but keep in mind the XD's are not lightwheights. They are heavy.

4v50 Gary
January 11, 2009, 10:09 PM
CZ-75 compact in 40 S&W.

Poor East Texan
January 11, 2009, 10:23 PM
I have large paws with semi long fat fingers.

But if you can't make a 1911 fit I don't know WHAT to tell you!

And I have never taken to .40S&W but I sure do like .45ACP!

Robocop
January 11, 2009, 11:50 PM
How about a Bond Arms Texas Defender (http://www.bondarms.com/ifirearms.php)?

Just kidding!

Seriously, either a Smith and Wesson M&P 40 (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&categoryId=15711&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15708&top_category=15708) with the small grip insert, or a Kahr (http://www.kahr.com/) K40 (or a T40 if a 4" barrel is a must).

mr2guru
January 12, 2009, 12:09 AM
Walther PPS in .40

Single stack and perfect for small hands. Has interchangeable back straps also.

CPshooter
January 12, 2009, 01:58 AM
H&K USPc .40

Sig P239 w/ short trigger

Two great guns that work well for small-medium hands.

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