Quiet revolver?


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FunYet
June 11, 2003, 10:47 PM
I was picking through the shelves at the local Blockbuster and ran across a box cover with a picture that didn't seem quite right.

http://funyet.com/images/cover.jpg

A revolver with a silencer? Would that work, given the gap between the cylinder and forcing cone??

Yes, yes, I know it's a movie and movies are p-r-e-t-e-n-d, but wondering none the less.

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Phil in Seattle
June 12, 2003, 12:37 AM
With the proper specially designed ammunition it would work just fine.

But in general no, putting a supressor on a revolver doesn't work very well at all.

QuarterBoreGunner
June 12, 2003, 12:54 AM
Yes, as a general rule, revolvers can't be suppressed due to the cylinder/barrel gap. The Russian Nagant 'gas seal' pistol would be a better candidate for suppression.

IIRC Ruger had a specially designed GP 100 that was suppressed. And ..wow..here's a old memory... I believe there was a suppressed S&W 625 .45 revolver used by the old school US Army border guards in Berlin. It was a standard 625 with a box type of case that enclosed the cylinder and barrel area...



I maybe wrong.


Very wrong.

Mike Irwin
June 12, 2003, 01:19 AM
The Nagant Gas Seal revolver could be, and was, suppressed.

sw442642
June 12, 2003, 01:45 PM
You see that Ruger in movies when the killer uses a suppressed revolver based sniper rifle. It was written up in one of those Gun Digest company volumes about assault weapons.

GrandmasterB
June 12, 2003, 03:07 PM
I hate it when movies or books talk about stupid stuff like that! :fire: They should get firearms consultants to verify stuff before it is in print or on film. Any member of this forum would do just fine! :cool:

I can't tell you how many times I have been reading a novel and get fairly caught up in the story only to read something like "He then flicked off the safety on his .45 magnum revolver" or other such tripe and then I get so disgusted I just throw the book away and pick up another.:cuss:

Blueduck
June 12, 2003, 08:38 PM
I know of two silenced revolver rounds. First was basically a "piston" inside the brass cartride itself that propelled the bullet on discharge but stopped inside the case. Nothing needed to hang off the bbl. ATF considers each one of these rounds to be a suppresor in itself so $200 tax per round:what:

Second was a special round with some type of sticky substance mounted on the top of the bullet that sealed the bbl/cylinder gap as the round passed and then went through a standard suppresor on the end of the bbl. It would tie up the gun after 5-12 shots as the gunk built up.

I've *heard* if you get the BBL/clylinder gap to .001-.002" a suppresor will still be at least somewhat effective, but thats strickly web lore.

Course the one in the picture is way too small to really get anything done in the first place. Kinda reminds me of Maxwell Smart's issue gun ;)

telomerase
June 12, 2003, 08:45 PM
I've read there was a silenced .44 mag revolver produced for tunnel rats in Viet Nam. It had a shroud that covered the whole cylinder as well as a muzzle tube. (No, I don't think a lot of street criminals used these... movie guns are chosen for aesthetic value only).

caz223
June 12, 2003, 09:30 PM
I'lll bet you could supress a Dan Wesson revolver if you spent enough time tinkering...

mete
June 13, 2003, 04:57 AM
Yes suppressed revolvers have been made . Remember that suppressed weapons don't have to completely silence the gun ,if most of the noise is removed that will be enough in most cases. As for artistic license - the worst I have seen was a cover of a paperback western - the cowboy was shooting a cap and ball revolver and cases were coming out of the revolver like an auto !

raveon59
June 14, 2003, 08:39 AM
Has anyone ever tried using a plastic Coke bottle as a silencer?

JShirley
June 15, 2003, 02:28 AM
Whoa! Unlicensed sound suppressors are illegal and will not be discussed on this board, as mere discussion can be ruled conspiracy.

John

Johnny Guest
June 15, 2003, 09:57 AM
it is one thing to participate in an academic (okay, movie fan) discussion about silly or esoteric firearms accessories. It is quite another to solicit on-line confession of a federal felony.

I, for one, don't want some overzealous U.S. Attorney to send investigators to give me the choice of [1] being a co-conspirator or (2) participate as a witness in a prosecution sometime when the court is idle.

It is a hassle to do so, but certainly not impossible to trace down even anonymous posters on a semi-public web site such as this. The seekers for identity don't even need a court order or search warrant, until they come to seize the computer being used. Let's have fun and become enlightened, but keep these questions hypothetical, huh?
;)

Best,
Johnny

Hal
June 15, 2003, 10:08 AM
Johnny,
Um,,,bit late for that warning....
Someone already admitted to it.

Gordon
June 15, 2003, 06:26 PM
Well I CAN admit to holding in my hand GENUINE Telescopic .44 mag rounds. I was told that they were counted and a field grade OIC had control of distribution. Guns were STOCK 4" Mod 29's with dull finish and Radium sights. I can't remember but I think the manufacturer rep said they were TRW . Another spook in the bars of VN in 69. When these rounds fired thet sprung back some what to let cylinder turn . I think I remember 250grains at 750fps being discussed by manufactures rep , I liked Guns even then!:cool:

Johnny Guest
June 16, 2003, 02:50 AM
- - -Hal. Johnny,
Um,,,bit late for that warning....
Someone already admitted to it I went back and looked, and I don't see it on this thread. Do you mean in some other? Way I read it, raveon59 was just asking for others to confess, not making any admission of his own activity. ;)

Gordon, How did the cartridges themselved look? Lead bullet or fmj? What headstamp on the case? Large primer or small?

Best,
Johnny

Gordon
June 16, 2003, 10:34 AM
I remember the head stamp had 3 letters, fmj bullet of wadcutter shape and a die smeared primer. The expended rounds had the funny aluminum(I think) coil out as far as regular bullet.

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