installing body die
drake
March 30, 2007, 12:51 PM
I have a redding type-s body die and kinda baffled on how to install it.. Can someone give me a quick run down on how to do this? I already cleaned the inside of the die as per the piece of paper in the box it came in, but it doesn't really explain how to physically install it nor does the manual for the press (from what I can see).
I am thinking it needs to be threaded so that it touches the the shell holder when its all the way up, plus a 1/8-1/4 turn more, and the black ring locked into place.
just not sure of the other two parts of the die.
drake
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USSR
March 30, 2007, 03:20 PM
drake,
Turn the small allen head screw in the black ring counter-clockwise so that the black ring is free to turn on the die threads. Now, with the press ram all the way up, screw the die down until it makes contact with the case holder on the ram. Low the ram down and screw the die down a little more. Now raise the ram and look for a little resistance in the case holder contacting the bottom of the die. Turn the black ring down until it contacts the top of the press without turning the die. Now turn the small allen head screw in the black ring clockwise until it prevents the black ring from turning in the die threads. There you are.
Don
drake
March 30, 2007, 03:24 PM
got that part done, what about setting up the decapping pin part? noticed that i can extend the 'arm' inside the body die (has a locking nut) and another screw/lock nut ontop of the die
drake
USSR
March 30, 2007, 05:54 PM
drake,
The Redding body die does not have a decapping pin. Could you be talking about a full length sizing die?
Don
drake
March 30, 2007, 05:58 PM
i think i am .. sorry for the confusion :P
USSR
March 30, 2007, 08:08 PM
drake,
Just going by memory here, so bear with me. Should be two black knurled "nuts" on top. The lower one, next to the die body, is a lock nut. Turn it counter-clockwise. This will allow you to turn the one on top which allows you to adjust the depth of the decapping pin. I believe you have to completely remove the decapping pin to insert your bushing. Hope that helps.
Don
steve4102
March 30, 2007, 08:18 PM
Type S dies are "bushing" dies. Do you have a bushing installed in the die?
http://www.redding-reloading.com/pages/typesbushseatdie.html
If you do, then the set up goes like this. Remove the decaping rod assemble from the die. Tighten the "black" lock nut just above the expander ball all the way to the top. Insert the desired bushing into the die. Replace the decapping stem into the die and screw it in until it makes contact with the bushing. Then back it out 1/16 to 1/8 of a turn and lock the lock nut on the top.
drake
March 31, 2007, 12:38 AM
Steve I do have the bushing installed, and what you said does make sense now... now on the decapping stem there are two different 'tips' that came with it.. a silver and a black one... both screw on over where the pin goes ... black one came installed by default... whats the difference?
Thanks USSR for your help :)
drake
steve4102
March 31, 2007, 09:37 AM
The silver one is a neck expander. When you raise the handle on the press the expander button (silver one ) will pull through the case neck and expand the inside of the neck to the so called "proper" size.
The black one is there only to hold onto the decapping pin. It does not expand the case neck. This is the one I use. I see no need to size with a bushing and then make it bigger again with the expander button.
Selecting the proper bushing size is kinda important for proper neck tension and concentric brass. What caliber are you loading for and how did you come up with you bushing size?
drake
April 1, 2007, 08:22 AM
the brass i am working with is .308 and I determined the bushings size in accordance to the redding website about bushing selection.
drake
USSR
April 1, 2007, 02:32 PM
I see no need to size with a bushing and then make it bigger again with the expander button.
+1. Use the proper size bushing and throw away the expander ball.
Don
steve4102
April 2, 2007, 12:14 AM
the brass i am working with is .308 and I determined the bushings size in accordance to the redding website about bushing selection.
drake
One of the problems with the "Bushing Die" is not reducing the neck dia. to much with one stroke of the press. Redding recommends .005 or less. If you need to reduce your fire case by more than .005 you may need to use 2 or more bushings.
I have found that a quick run through my Lee Collet die and then one shot with the Redding bushing die works out great.
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