Are Glock Triggers dangerous?


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GVMan
March 30, 2007, 01:39 PM
Ok, I went into my local firearms shop today to look at a small pistol for daily concealed carry. The saleman showed me the Glock 26. It was the perfect size. However, the trigger pull weight was very low. I understand this is part of what makes a Glock - a Glock. But is this a great thing? A dangerous thing? I need some education on this issue. What about the "New York" trigger? How do you get a Glock with the NY trigger, special order?

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Devonai
March 30, 2007, 01:45 PM
I'm sure you don't need to hear all about "don't put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire," but I have to say it. Care while operating a Glock and care while holstering/drawing are all you need to prevent a negligent discharge.

However, the New York 1 trigger device, in my opinion, improves the overall feel and controllability of the trigger pull. It makes it more even and has a better let-off. It also raises the pull weight to around 8 pounds. The NY2 device, which is orange, is about 12 pounds. I bought a Glock 27 that had one and I promptly replaced it as I found the pull to be way too heavy.

The NY1 trigger device is green and should set you back $3. If you have steady hands you can install it yourself.

Check out Glockmeister (http://glockmeister.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/10_17/products_id/285) to take a look at it.

GeorgiaGlocker
March 30, 2007, 01:54 PM
The trigger pull of a glock is 5.5 pounds from the factory. If you don't pull the trigger if will not fire!! One of the basic rules of handling firearms. Make sure that you buy a good holster that completely covers the trigger and you should not have any problems with your Glock. I do know people that like to constantly hold and play with them. In my opinion this is asking for trouble. If you must handle it say to practice dry fire make sure it is unloaded! Another basic rule. I own three Glocks and have never had a problem.

TimboKhan
March 30, 2007, 02:31 PM
I would have to say that it is not based entirely on the fact that the Glock trigger system has been around for a long, long time now. Add to that the fact that it has been field tested for 20+ years by individuals and police agencies all across world, and it should be obvious that the evidence suggests that it is not a dangerous arrangement.

If a light trigger concerns you, spend the 3 bucks and either install it yourself or take it to a Glock armorer (they are pretty easy to find) and spend the 5 or 10 bucks he charges you to put it in. I don't think it is particularly dangerous just because it's light, but it may be your just not comfortable shooting a light trigger. Heck, I am like that myself. Of course, I like my triggers to be crisp, and I certainly am no fan of 11 pound pulls, but for whatever reason I just have a hard time controlling a "light" trigger as I am finding out with my Bushmaster Varminter. In a pistol, I don't think you will ever find a trigger as light as that one is, but my point is that if you don't like it, you can fix it easily and cheaply.

Also, since there have been two responses to your question without the obligatory "buy a 1911", I feel like I should say something.

Buy a 1911.

RNB65
March 30, 2007, 02:45 PM
The only time Glock triggers are a hazard is when holstering the weapon. If something (such as a holster thumbstrap) get inside the trigger guard, it can cause an accidental discharge. Being careful and using a good dose of common sense should prevent that from happening.

If Glocks make you a bit nervous, take a look at the Springfield XD. Its trigger system works similar to a Glock except the XD adds a grip safety on the back of the grip. Train yourself to keep your hand off the grip safety when holstering and there's no way the gun can fire even if something gets inside the trigger guard.

glockman19
March 30, 2007, 02:48 PM
+1

The trigger pull of a glock is 5.5 pounds from the factory. If you don't pull the trigger if will not fire!! One of the basic rules of handling firearms.

I changed the trigger on my Glock 19 to a #3.5 and it feels closer to my 1911's. I will not change the trigger on my Glock 26 because it is a carry weapon and if I ever have to use it I don't want it to be an issue. that said, I find no problem with the factory 5.5 trigger. fire a few hundred rounds and see if you change your mind.

Also, it's been said here numerous times before, "If you don't pull the trigger if will not fire, Keep your finger off of the trigger"

Run&Shoot
March 30, 2007, 02:52 PM
First, you should be carrying in a holster that covers the trigger. That should pretty much eliminate any concern about trigger pull weight in terms of safety.

Second, I agree with Devonai in that I prefer the NY #1 trigger which resembles more of a steady, smooth double action revolver trigger of eight pounds compared to the 5.5 lbs of the stock trigger. Most importantly it not only slightly increases the final break point weight of the pull, but also adds a few pounds to the initial takeup part of the pull. Just my preference as I like revolvers.

You can have a Glock armorer do this cheap, or get The Complete Glock Reference Guide, the trigger spring, and armorer's tool (3/32" punch) from lonewolfdist.com and do it yourself. Very easy.

Eyesac
March 30, 2007, 02:59 PM
All triggers are dangerous if you're not careful. 5.5lbs vs 8lbs... If you're careful, neither will be a problem, if you're not, both are dangerous. Trigger pull is for your personal preferences or lawyers.

grimjaw
March 30, 2007, 02:59 PM
Are Glock Triggers dangerous?

Only to DEA agents and cowboy twirlers.

If anything, the Glock (and other DAO-like) triggers have made me more aware of keeping the booger hook off the bang button. Exercise care when holstering, same with any gun.

jm

JimC
March 30, 2007, 04:10 PM
A Glock pistol is like any other fireamrm in the fact that it is a mechanical device operated by a human being.

The level of training and care exercised by that human being determines just how safe the mechanical device is.

buzz_knox
March 30, 2007, 04:13 PM
They are only dangerous if you pull the trigger when you shouldn't. If you do that, though, most any weapon is dangerous, as even a 12lb trigger pull is rather light when your adrenaline is going or you are just being clueless.

fattsgalore
March 30, 2007, 04:34 PM
To answer the original post yes/no.
Yes, as in all guns are dangerous if the operator is foolish. But also, it's fact that Glocks are unforgiving of stupidity and improper use. I personally won't leave my Glock loaded around the house.

No, I did a personal Glock test. Keeping the Glock loaded was nerve racking as if it'd go off any second or if I dropped it. So i cocked it and threw it into bed with myself. (unloaded just cocked) After two days of tossing it around, sleeping with it and all other horse jackery. Nothing happened. The trigger was never fully pulled to the rear so it never fired.

Glocks a combat pistol, it's made to fight not sit around in a sock draw.

Me personally my next piece is gonna have a hammer and manual safety no matter what. Well except a Sig. I really want a P229 CPO.

JDGray
March 30, 2007, 05:50 PM
When I twirl my 19 on my finger, it's a little scarry:evil:

CountGlockula
March 30, 2007, 06:54 PM
I love my Glock trigger on my Practical/Tactical model 35. It has a 3.5lb connector with a NY1 spring. Trigger pull is smooth and great for competition.

As for subcompacts, I'd recommend a longer trigger pull.

deltacharlie
March 30, 2007, 08:37 PM
Only to DEA agents...:)
that's what i was going to say!

check out GlockTalk (http://www.glocktalk.com)
there you will find all answers to any Glock-related question you will ever have.

as to the NY trigger....easiest thing to insall, ever. in fact, i think it is easier and better than the stock spring. those stock springs will break, the NY trigger is way more durable. yes, it increases # pull, but that's what you want in a (Glock) carry piece.

and the G26 is a sweet piece for conceal carry, but look around at other options before you buy.

peace out

Ditchtiger
March 30, 2007, 08:53 PM
Glock triggers are not dangerous, bullets coming out the muzzle end of the barrel are dangerous.

10-Ring
March 30, 2007, 08:57 PM
In my experience, the Glock trigger is perfectly fine as long as the user is repsonsible & handles the firearm properly.

sfmittels
March 30, 2007, 09:04 PM
Of course a Glock trigger is dangerous; that's why it's called a "trigger". Seriously, I own three Glocks and numerous other firearms. I have never been nervous about the trigger being literally the only "safety" on a Glock, just like the trigger on a DA revolver doesn't make me nervous. However, I am MUCH more careful when I re-holster a Glock for the reasons stated in several prior posts. The trigger travel distance and pull weight on a Glock trigger are 'way less than the best DA revolver, so you can't be careless. Frankly, the thought of a Glock in the hands of a newbie doesn't give me comfort; on the other hand, I don't lay awake worrying about it either. I just hope people are wise enough to get some training with their Glock.

briansp82593
March 30, 2007, 09:29 PM
im tired of these threads.... :fire:
your as safe as the gun is period.
you could hold the gun for days its not going to go off by itself, You have to pull the trigger
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you have nothing to worry about, look i like glocks, personally i like alot of guns but buy the gun anyway, walk around the house with it empty in your rig and after a week or so you should be fine with it the only thing you have to worry about is holstering, keep your finger away!

hrgrisso
March 30, 2007, 09:41 PM
First, what are you doing with the Glock? Please don't say Mexican Carry... :D

Don't sweat the small stuff, I like the idea that everyone had, put the NY-1 on it if that makes you feel better.

A friend of mine just recently put a (I believe this is the name) Comonolli Safety on his glock. It did require a bit of gun smithing but it's a manual safety, very similar to a 1911.

Anyways, if you do that, you can get the best of both worlds, a 1911 safety and a Glock I hope you enjoy shooting.

Or you can sell it and get a Sig...:cool:

GVMan
March 31, 2007, 11:03 AM
I would like to clarify that I am not saying that I think Glocks are dangerous. I just wanted to gain from the experience of my fellow High Roaders or is it Roadies?
I agree the best safety is between my ears. However... Stuff happens. We've all heard the stories about fairly experienced shooters leaving their finger on the trigger when holstering. I think on my Kahr T9, I would have a good chance of feeling my finger pull the trigger as I holstered before the gun went off.

GVMan
March 31, 2007, 11:05 AM
Are Glocks known for a shorter pull compared to the average semi-auto or does it just seem so because the weight is lower than I am used to? I am not sure pull length is the correct term, sorry.

Ichiro
March 31, 2007, 05:12 PM
The trigger isn't dangerous. It's just short.

I'm very consistent with safe gun handling, but I'm still uncomfortable with the short Glock trigger. I like to handle and dry-fire my guns regularly, and a traditional DA/SA makes me more comfortable with the firearm.

As it is, I prefer DAO revolvers.

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