[G95]

im currently carrying a strider gb and i love it but wish i could find something bigger like with a 5" blade anybody know of something like this thats made in america?

[TMM]

Cold Steel probably has what you want, or try the Benchmade Ruckus or Skirmish.

~tmm

[Essayons]

Camillus used to make a huge fram or liner lock knife.

[markk]

GERBER
applegate folder

EDIT: my mistake Boker makes the fixed blade Applegates
while Gerber makes the folders

http://www.savepic.com/freepicturehosting/is.php?i=530060&img=5621P4030033.JPG
that false edge on top sharpens up nicely

[mdao]

http://www.themartialist.com/0803/cudamaxx.htm

No longer made since Camillus closed down.

http://sogknives.com/store/PE18.html#
http://sogknives.com/store/SE18.html#

SOG large knives, but not a liner lock. Their Arc lock is similar in function to the Axis lock.

http://www.coldsteel.com/folding-knives-vaquero.html
http://www.coldsteel.com/tilites.html

Large Cold Steel knives, but I don't think they're made in America. Also not liner locks.

[JShirley]

While not quite as long as you request, the Spyderco Military (http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=114) is a very large folder, at 9.5" overall. New Graham has them for $125 plus shipping (http://newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=3817).

The Military has a good reputation as a large but easily carried knife.

John

[JTW Jr.]

The BM Skirmish is BIG , but not HUGE compared to the custom version ( and that is a LARGE Sebenza for comparison ).

http://members.cox.net/lv_usualsuspect/seb%20vs%20Skirmish.JPG

What was that big folder REKAT made years back ? Those pop up on Ebay from time to time.

[rbmcmjr]

If you are lucky, you might be able to find one of the Camillus Gibbs Maxx models. 7" of D2, with Titanium scales and framelock. Shown here with a Busse EU17:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/rbmcmjr/gibbsmaxxandeu17.jpg

[steeltiger]

The only big LINERLOCK made by cold steel is a six inch Ti-Lite, good sd folder, but not so great for utility. You might want to look at CS's voyager line, there lockbacks though, but wonderfull utility and self defence.

[Steelcore]

So when did camillus close? Bummer.Im glad I just bought a new Heat.

[hso]

Camillus Cutlery Company

54 Main Street
Camillus, NY 13031

1902 - 2007
(1902 first year Camillus produced their own knives with the Camillus Stamping)

Camillus Cutlery's Era Comes to Close
Embattled manufacturer to shut its doors for final time

Wednesday, February 28, 2007

By Tim Knauss
Staff writer

From 1942 to 1945, Camillus Cutlery Co. made more than 15 million knives for U.S. soldiers. The company's 700 employees filled three shifts.

After the war, the cutlery thrived making Boy Scout knives, hunting knives and a variety of other blades.

But Camillus Cutlery has been decimated in recent years, the victim of tough competition from foreign manufacturers.

At the end of business today, the company will close, leaving its remaining three dozen employees without jobs, said Kathy Westcott, president of United Steelworkers Local 4783, the union representing company workers.

"This place used to be an excellent place to work," said Westcott, who took her first job at the cutlery nearly 30 years ago. "It's very upsetting."

Westcott said she does not believe workers will receive a severance package. The managers and owners of the family-owned business declined to comment, according to a woman who answers the phones.

Camillus Cutlery is one of several knife manufacturers to succumb to foreign competition, said David Barrack, executive director of the American Edged Products Manufacturers Association. Several manufacturers have shut down or curtailed operations in recent years, including Imperial Schrade Corp., once the largest knife manufacturer in the world, which closed in 2004.

"It's really staggering the number of companies that have closed as a result of offshore competition and the rising cost of doing business here in the United States," Barrack said.

The cutlery trade group petitioned the U.S. International Trade Commission during the 1980s for relief from low-priced imports but failed to persuade the commission to impose duties, Barrack said.

The original growth of Camillus Cutlery can be traced to such duties imposed during the 19th century.

Adolph Kastor, the German immigrant who built Camillus Cutlery into a name brand, started a New York City business in 1876 to import German-made knives. He sought a manufacturing operation only after tariffs imposed in 1897 made the blades too expensive to import, according to a company history.

In 1902, Kastor bought a 20-person cutlery in Camillus that had been founded by Charles Sherwood in 1894. Camillus Cutlery has always operated in the heart of the village, its buildings sprawled alongside Nine Mile Creek.

Mayor Ed Fletcher said he was shocked by news of the closing.

"It's our image," he said. "We're known as Camillus Cutlery."

The village erected four road signs in 1999 that say, "Welcome to the village of Camillus, home of the world famous Camillus Cutlery."

Struggling with foreign competition, the business endured a bitter six-month-long strike in 2006. When the strike ended in November, the company hired back only 15 of the 78 workers who had gone out.

In the aftermath of the strike, employees assumed the end was near, said Bill Slate, 35, of Warners, who has worked at the plant for 15 years.

"We kind of knew," he said.

The federal government has made union employees of the company eligible for Trade Adjustment Assistance, because their jobs were lost to foreign competition. That gives them access to extended unemployment insurance, training and other benefits, Westcott said.

Sixteen of the roughly 35 employees are union members, Westcott said.

Westcott, whose only job has been at the cutlery, said there were more than 400 employees when she started as a 20-year-old in 1977. She spent her next-to-last day packing Boy Scout knives into boxes.

"Oh, kids," she said, "You just don't realize."

You can contact Staff Writer Tim Knauss at tknauss@syracuse.com or 470-3023.

['Card]

...the business endured a bitter six-month-long strike in 2006.
But let's not place any blame on the labor union, OK? Clearly they had nothing to do with the company going out of business. Clearly the blame should be placed firmly (and solely) at the feet of foreign competition.

/spit. :mad:

[hso]

'Card,

I'd normally be right behind you on the sentiment, but I've followed the whole Camillus death throws and in this case the workers and day to day management folks performed marvelously. The absentee owners stepped in and started mucking around trying to increase profits that they had been pulling from the company for over a decade and the union officials then got in a sparring match with the absentee owners when the owners wanted to cut the modest and reasonable benefits the employees had. The owners failed to pay millions of dollars into the retirement funds (office and craft) and the retirement guarantors are part of the litigants in the bankrupcy. When the dust settled there were fewer workers with fewer benefits and the owners moved some production to China. There are still millions of dollars absent from the retirement funds for all the employees.

If you want a heart wrenching story on how things go bad at a 100 year old company that depended upon the skilled labor of talented craftsmen and the dedicated management from people dedicated to a community then hop over to Bladeforums and the Camillus forum where workers and managers and designers have all posted.

[Giolli Joker]

http://www.extremaratioknivesdivision.eu/inglese/military/nemesis.htm#
http://www.extremaratioknivesdivision.eu/inglese/military/mpc.htm
The blade isn't 5" long but the Nemesis and the M.P.C. aren't small folders...;)

[Hawk]

What was that big folder REKAT made years back ? Those pop up on Ebay from time to time.

SIFU?

[LarryS.]

Yes, the Rekat Sifu is quite impressive....I love mine!:eek:

http://www.zknives.com/knives/folding/hiend/sifu.shtml