Who makes a Bobtailed 1911?


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boredelmo
April 2, 2007, 06:51 AM
I like the look, but there any function such a feature? Anti-snag tech maybe?:neener:

Anyways, Who makes 1911 in this style? pref 9mm flavor. Is this only a custom gunmaker thing? Can a gunsmith do this to any old 1911?

Thanks in advance,

-Elmer

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Billy Sparks
April 2, 2007, 07:27 AM
I have a Dan Wesson/CZ in .45. Don't know if they offer it in 9mm though.

ARTiger
April 2, 2007, 07:30 AM
Dan Wesson makes a really nice bobtailed 1911. I don't know if available in 9x19 though . . . maybe just .45 and 10mm.

http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/data/productimg/main066.png

yhtomit
April 2, 2007, 08:51 AM
Is it that bit of notch cut from the bottom-rear of the grip?

(nice pic, by the way, ARTiger)

If so, it does look like it would make the gun a bit more snag resistant.

So you have a beavertail and a bobtail ... any other animals to squeeze on?

timothy

waynedm
April 2, 2007, 09:01 AM
Dan Wesson and Ed Brown are the only ones I know of.

Iggy
April 2, 2007, 09:14 AM
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169542

bigmedicine
April 2, 2007, 09:19 AM
Wilson and STI also make them - supposedly Springfield will as well, though I do not know this as fact.

Remember guys, it is fairly easy surgery to bobtail any full size frame 1911 (Govt or Commander) - all you need is to chop it and add an Ed Brown bobtail mainspring housing. Most places around are doing it for ~$150. Just remember, it is a permanent fix, so be sure you hold one and preferably shoot one before giving your frame the chop.
Here is a picture of my Kimber TLE that I had bobtailed by Robar when it was there for finishing. Robar is a great shop and the finished piece looks great.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/stukeller/IMG_2399-1.jpg

lunde
April 2, 2007, 09:40 AM
Nighthawk Custom also Bobtails their Fullsize or Commander 1911s upon request. In fact, someone over at SIGforum osted photos of a Bobtailed Nighthawk Custom Talon II (Commander) chambered in 9mm.

Of the seven 1911s that I currently own, four are Bobtailed. Two came that way from the factory: Ed Brown Kobra Carry x 2. The other two were done after taking delivery. Ed Brown does this work now, and will operate on non-Ed Brown 1911s as long as they are blued carbon steel or in-the-white stainless steel. Go to their "FAQ" page to find their Installation Order Form.

That said, I find the Bobtail, combined with slim grips, to make a 1911 very comfortable in my hand, especially when firing. Because the Bobtail modification involves a permanent change to the frame, it is best to fondle, or better yet, shoot, one before going down that path.

Only 1911s with full-length, in terms of grip, frames can be Bobtailed. Officer frames thus cannot.

I have two more 1911s in the pipe, one of which is coming with a Bobtail.

Among my 1911s, my finest is my Valtro 1998A1. But, my overall favorite is my Gen III coated Ed Brown Kobra Carry:

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/ebkc-g3-ag-left-full.jpg

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/ebkc-g3-ag-right-full.jpg

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/ebkc-g3-ag-left-flat.jpg

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/ebkc-g3-ag-right-flat.jpg

CZF
April 2, 2007, 01:47 PM
The CBOB is the most comfortable 1911 grip that i've ever found.
Too bad that I can't shoot 1911s worth a damn. The gun beautiful to look at
and proving both reliable and scary accurate in the right hands.http://onfinite.com/libraries/1145366/5c8.jpg

Walkalong
April 2, 2007, 03:55 PM
WOW, that Kobra Carry is NICE!!!

Flame Red
April 2, 2007, 04:03 PM
Like the others said, there is a nice variety of manufactures that provide them off the shelf. Typically, that is the cheapest way to get one. However, you can go the custom route too. Here is the Bob-tailed Colt Commander that D&V Customs did for me based on a Colt. Dave Helton does great work.

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/flamedred//bobtail_commander.jpg

Gosh I love that Snake Skin :)

10-Ring
April 2, 2007, 09:17 PM
DW maked the one I have, Ed Brown makes'em too....I do know a couple smiths that can do the work for you, if you're so inclined ;)

Here's mine :cool:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/10-Ring/P1010880.jpg

yhtomit
April 2, 2007, 11:21 PM
Great pics! I think that may just be the finest-looking 1911 I have ever seen. Now I've got to google Ed Brown and 1911 ;)

timothy

surjimmy
April 2, 2007, 11:28 PM
randgfirearms.com has one.

boredelmo
April 3, 2007, 12:30 AM
oh geeeeeeeezus. Anything sub $1000? Like around $500 even? I might just buy and Rock Island and get it Bobbed.

B. Adams
April 3, 2007, 01:45 AM
Less than $1000? I just got my Dan Wesson CBOB shipped and transferred for under $860. I looked at the RIA, and considered it, but I think you get what you pay for in this case. Top quality parts, made in the US, and all the features you can ask for in a bobtailed 1911.

I'd love to have an Ed Brown or a Wilson, or a Les Baer, but my budget had to be stretched far enough just to buy this Dan Wesson, and I love it.

Personally, my feeling is that if you want a 1911 and want it cheap, the RIA would be a fine choice. I also think it would be a waste of money to get an RIA bobbed, just like I think it's a waste to put a racing engine out a Honda Civic. By the time you buy a RIA 1911 for $350-ish and pay someone for labor and parts to put in a bobtail, you're looking at a gun that's over $500 anyway. At that point you might as well just get a DW, with the night sights, beavertail, trigger, slide stop, etc, which are all premium parts. That's just my opinion, but those are some of the reasons I bought one.

I also don't know why you would want one in 9mm when the frame is sized for 45. Might as well get the biggest cartridge vs. frame size you can, especially for a carry gun. If you're just looking to save money by shooting 9mm, I think you might be better served by something other than a 1911. But that's just my opinion, which doesn't mean much sometimes. :D

boredelmo
April 3, 2007, 06:27 AM
Hehe, guess who had a 94 Honda Civic hatch? And guess who was damn proud of beating the snot out of plenty of cars?

I just generally prefer the 9mm cartridge. I also have a 9mm Uzi and i think having a carbine and pistol that share the same ammo makes sense to me.

Coronach
April 3, 2007, 07:15 AM
The point of a bob is snag reduction and print reduction...easier to draw and harder to see when carried concealed.

As was said, shoot one before you decide. I know a couple of people who bobbed a gun and realized later that they really did not like the way it felt in-hand or shot afterwards. I also know a couple who liked it just fine.

As to whether or not the benefits of the bob outweigh the costs...eh. I have no idea.

Mike

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