gun Safes what do you have


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scrat
April 2, 2007, 09:57 PM
Yep i do not have one. however my wife is really getting down on me to put them away. i have locks on all my firearms and they are all in cases under the bed and in the closet. now she wants me to get a safe. i need something to hold 9 various shotguns and rifles and 4 hanguns. plus ammo i guess.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what to get and around how much i should spend. i dont need a iron fort nock., that needs to be brought in with a fork lift. just something to hold what i have. at this point im not planning on buying any more firearms. i just need a good safe to keeep them in.


show some pics if you can

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Jorg Nysgerrig
April 2, 2007, 10:42 PM
Always plan for extra guns. Always.

easy
April 2, 2007, 10:43 PM
Sam's Club special. Winchester brand. Less than $600.00, weighs almost 600lbs.

kevin387
April 2, 2007, 10:46 PM
Your safe will shrink with time, buy larger than you think. I would spend the extra bucks and get an actual safe versus gun cabinet and would also suggest making it fire resitant. It is a one time investment.

gezzer
April 2, 2007, 10:58 PM
Buy the biggest you can.

scrat
April 3, 2007, 03:55 PM
as far as getting a bigger gun safe than what i need. At this point in time i think thats pretty silly. I have been shooting for over 25 years. The last gun i purchased was over 17 years ago. So the chances of me buying another firearm are pretty pretty slim.

What i really need to know is what brands are out there. Where is a good place to purchase them. about how much do they cost. How big are they. i dont need something thats going to be in the way.

1BLINDREF
April 3, 2007, 04:07 PM
+1 on the biggest bestist you can afford.
Figure out where you are gonna put it, measure the space and buy one that is rated for at least 1 hour fire protection. Don't cheap out. It doesn't make sense to put $8,000. worth of guns into a $500 safe. JMHO

Tinker2
April 3, 2007, 05:45 PM
Liberty Safe, high end, have it delivered.

Key words:
High end
Have it delivered

Tinker2

Will Learn
April 3, 2007, 05:48 PM
+1 what easy said, I've had one for about a year and am very happy with it. http://winchestersafes.com/

shooter762
April 3, 2007, 06:06 PM
We need some more info, like how much protection do you want? 12,10,8,7 guage safe walls, how much fire protection etc.. Do you live close to a fire hydrant? Are you just trying to protect against kids, the smash and grab type or more serious burglers? Is fire your bigger threat? These answers make a HUGE difference I'm finding out myself in the type of safe I'm considering getting. I like these guys

www.sturdysafe.com/

They don't list prices on their website but they'll email the pricelist to you and its not as much as you'd think for a real safe and not just a RSC. I'm no expert but if you define more what your looking for, we have some real safe experts on this board that will probably chime in and give you some great info. Good luck!

Shooter762.

vynx
April 3, 2007, 06:30 PM
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunsafes.html

Here is a gunsafe buying guide - very informative.

If you want to spend more than the winchester (granite) safe at Sams Club - Sturdy safes are good so are Amsec.

ps. Calguns.net has some good safe threads - since you are in Monrovia check out Deans Safes in the San Fernando Valley they have a website and have pictures of some used safes that might interest you - I bought one there - good guys.

heypete
April 3, 2007, 08:25 PM
There's minimal difference between the $600 gun safe's at Costco/Sam's Club and a $1,400 Cannon safe. I wish I had done a bit more research before forking over all the cash for the Cannon. :cuss:

Gun safes are not terribly secure from criminals, and can be opened with hand tools (say an axe, a crowbar, and other tools) in a matter of minutes (probably within 5-10 minutes, if the thief knows what he's doing -- if they just start pounding on it, they're unlikely to accomplish much). They might secure your guns from "crimes of opportunity" and "smash-and-grab" but that's about it.

They may be fire resistant to some degree, but I wouldn't trust anything that's not UL-listed for specific temperatures and times. There are other laboratories that do testing (and most "gun safe" makers have the other companies do the testing), but their methodology is different, and usually inferior to the UL testing.

Nearly all gun safes are "residential security containers", and are not terribly secure. They're better than nothing, sure, but a criminal with power tools or a lot of motivation will have litttle trouble opening it. If you're going to get a "gun safe", be sure to get one with at least 10 gauge steel -- most are 12 gauge, which are a bit thinner (only 1/10th of an inch thick), as that will offer a little bit more protection.

Amsec makes an interesting actual safe, the RF6528 (http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safes-HS-main.htm), but this costs between $4,000-$5,000 and weighs nearly two tons. I'm not sure if it's TL-30 rated on all six sides, or just the door, but that's something to keep in mind if one needs something very secure.

There are at least two safe vendors here on THR who can provide you with a lot of useful information; you can also search through past messages to see previous threads.

Either way, a safe or RSC will only slow down a criminal intent on entering the safe, particularly if they have time to work on it. You would be wise to install a burglar alarm in your house, use it all the time, and get homeowner's insurance. While a "gun safe" won't hold off criminals for long, an alarm system can summon the police while the criminal's working on it.

Mannlicher
April 3, 2007, 08:56 PM
I have a Browning and a Ft Knox for long guns. I keep my handguns in a Liberty safe. These are all large heavy safes, with good fire ratings.

http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/img1667.jpg

Sheldon J
April 3, 2007, 09:10 PM
National Security, 1,200 lbs MT.

scrat
April 3, 2007, 10:44 PM
wow those are some nice safes. thanks for all the info guys now i have some web sites to look through. i will keep you all posted on what i get

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