New silencer, fun & scary comments


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4D5
April 3, 2007, 11:33 PM
Well the form 4 finally made it back from ATF last week, took just over 4 weeks. The photo shows it set up on a Browning Buck Mark micro bull with reddot.

Got to say it is darn fun to shoot, no ear protection and not much louder than a pellet gun.

I had been talking to some gun friends at work about anticipating the form 4. One of them is really into shooting/guns, the other is a casual occasional shooter. Anyway after telling first person, I get the statement "now you can go out and kill someone" :what: Totally blew me away, fortunately we were on the phone and no one was the wiser. I was still really taken aback. So... no gun discussions there anymore, could turn out not so good. Was discussing the item with photo with other gun person and the comment was "now you can go out and shoot someone" :what: We were in the office and I quickly changed the subject and got the heck out.

So what's up with people, especially gun people that would cause them to make a stupid/ignorant/damaging statement like that? That's the last of sharing/discussing gun information at work. Too damm scary what might come out the mouth of some of these "gun" people.

Has anyone else encountered something like this?

Anyway here's the new setup...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=55979&stc=1&d=1175657251

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B. Adams
April 4, 2007, 12:28 AM
I think it has to do with their own exposure to suppressors. The only time most people see them is in movies, where they are used to kill people. I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either. Most people have never seen one in real life, and they think that when you need hearing protection you use ear plugs or muffs, because nobody but an assassin would use a silencer.

I don't think they really want to kill people, but that's what they think of when they see suppressors. Which isn't stupid, not all that damaging, but perfectly fits the definition of ignorant.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe your co-workers are really just bloodthirsty thugs. :what:

gezzer
April 4, 2007, 12:42 AM
TV, movies, politicos, police statements and media have assimilated them. They have no knowledge of firearms in the first place what more can you expect unless YOU educate them.

Grayrock
April 4, 2007, 12:48 AM
Link does not work.

Spark
April 4, 2007, 12:56 AM
Congrats on your new plinker! I have an AAC suppressed Ruger Mark II that I love plinking with because it's quiet enough that it doesn't sound louder than a pnuematic nail gun. It's great for getting out in the country. Unfotunately my Pilot .22 suppressor for the Krinker Plinker is quiet a bit louder, but it's probably because I'm shooting high velocity ammo.

If only our government would realize that suppressors aren't evil, but a vital part of protecting our hearing. Imagine if every rifle in the military had a suppressor...

Damien45
April 4, 2007, 01:03 AM
The link didn't work for me either.

Sounds like your coworkers own guns for the wrong reasons. If they don't want to educate themselves fully there is something wrong there.

I don't know the process for obtaining a supressor. I have thought about getting one since I am presonally worried about my hearing. I spent some years working on the flightline around F/A-18E's, I shoot and I play guitar (yes loudly). I use hearing protection during all of it. I am interested in getting one. Any suggestions?

wooderson
April 4, 2007, 01:12 AM
Sounds like a couple of sarcastic comments to me, don't over-react.

When I talk about suppressors with my father or friends, there are always a couple of Mossad/James Bond assassination jokes.

chris in va
April 4, 2007, 01:24 AM
Sounds like you take things too seriously. It's a 'tongue in cheek' comment, referring to movies mainly.

If that makes you cringe, you'd hate being an employee at the warehouse where I work. Most of them are from Jersey. :what: :D

ABTOMAT
April 4, 2007, 01:25 AM
Go and get some new friends from Finland.

4D5
April 4, 2007, 01:30 AM
The link works for me, two said it doesn't for them. Could it be because I am the creator of the link? Any others having problem with the link? Words of advise from Mods?

Damien45...
Well the process is pretty simple, at least in the United States just across the border from you in NV. However, in ********** you'll never own a silencer because it's a felony to possess one there and... the same for a threaded barrel. Can't even take them to show kids/family when I cross over to the other side, only pictures. I am thankful I was able to escape the PRSK over 3 years ago. I still go see family every couple of months in the PSRK, but can only take 2-3 days before I'm ready to come back to the USA.

4D5

DWARREN123
April 4, 2007, 01:35 AM
Most people only see them in movies where they are used on firearms that are used to kill people. They do not realize that it is a great way to quite down the firearm for sporting use.

Damien45
April 4, 2007, 01:43 AM
Damien45...
Well the process is pretty simple, at least in the United States just across the border from you in NV. However, in ********** you'll never own a silencer because it's a felony to possess one there and... the same for a threaded barrel. Can't even take them to show kids/family when I cross over to the other side, only pictures. I am thankful I was able to escape the PRSK over 3 years ago. I still go see family every couple of months in the PSRK, but can only take 2-3 days before I'm ready to come back to the USA.

4D5

Yeah, I am doing the research now for when I get transfered out of Cal. I am a resident of AZ. Just not sure if I can get one there and store it with the Gun Club I am a member with.

zahc
April 4, 2007, 07:19 AM
I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either. Most people have never seen one in real life, and they think that when you need hearing protection you use ear plugs or muffs, because nobody but an assassin would use a silencer.

Second episode of Kino's Travels.

Broke
April 4, 2007, 07:37 AM
I have an AAC suppressed Ruger Mark II that I love plinking with because it's quiet enough that it doesn't sound louder than a pnuematic nail gun.

The Phoenix? Great sounding gun. I wish mine didn't fill up with lead after 6K rounds making it loud. If it was able to be taken apart for cleaning, it would still be in my safe, but I had to sell it because you can't clean it.

I am a resident of AZ. Just not sure if I can get one there and store it with the Gun Club I am a member with.

You can use a 2nd address (vacation property, another residence, etc) to register the NFA item at.
It can't be taken to **********, but you can buy it in AZ, registered to your AZ address, and keep it stored in AZ. It has to be stored in a locked container no other person but you has access to. You can put it in a small locked container to be stored in the safe at your gun club, as long as they can't get to it, the ATF is happy.

The biggest hurdle for personal NFA transfers is the CLEO sign off. If you go corp/trust then you can skip the CLEO signature, the pics and the prints.

Here is a lot of good info concerning NFA items... http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wbardwel/public/nfalist/nfa_faq.txt

Broke

PennsyPlinker
April 4, 2007, 07:45 AM
"now you can go out and kill someone"

Around here we would call that dry humor. I would probably have said something to that effect myself had we been having the conversation. In fact, most of the people I know would have made a comment like that, and to the best of my knowledege, none of us are murderers. Actually, you could have killed someone before you got it - you would just have to run faster. :evil: (more dry humor)

The link didn't work for me either. Have fun with your new suppressor. I would love to own one, and I probably wouldn't even kill someone. :D

I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either.

Day of the Jackal. The Jackal is target shooting with his suppressor. Of course, he is practicing to kill somone. :neener:

TX1911fan
April 4, 2007, 09:23 AM
I was thinking about suppressors just last night. They are the prime example of hysteria of anti-gunners. This is a safety device, and it is banned because Hollywood has portrayed it as an assassins tool. Do they really think a criminal thinks "gee, I want to kill that guy with my gun, but everyone will hear a loud boom instead of a quiet boom, so I guess I won't kill him." Stupidity at its finest. So instead, we all have to risk our hearing.

WeThePeople
April 4, 2007, 09:43 AM
I've pretty much quit talking to anyone about guns unless they are of my mindset.

I've been amazed at the people who think that I am paranoid or that I should belong to a backwoods militia (nothing wrong with them :o ) just because I have a carry license, a few firearms, and I like to target shoot

Anyway, its no one's business. I think, now, that the decision to carry is personal and, at least for me, isn't up for discussion with anyone other than family and trusted friends.

Eyesac
April 4, 2007, 12:41 PM
Sounds like your coworkers own guns for the wrong reasons

My goodness people, it's a joke! So if I came to work with a brand new Ferrari and a coworker said "so you gonna race that thing" I should never talk to him about cars if it wasn't my intended use?

A gun (and or silencer) is not some super solemn or sacred thing that you should never joke about, it's a tool. Is that a silencer in your pocket or...

Sniper X
April 4, 2007, 01:03 PM
Eye, depending on who says it it may or may NOT be a joke. I spent 10 years in the US Army, and when I make the mistake of telling someone I was a 18B weapons specialist, who isn't former military, or God forbid, a "liberal personage" I get the Baby killer crap uh "joke" or how many people did you have to kill crap!

I am allways astounded what some joker will say that is "liberal media brainwashed" into the true kool aid drinking establishment of today. Back in the 70s and 80s when I was in there were no stupid comebacks when asked what I did in the Army, just admiration and respect....things change.

PS; back on the subject, the third most fun gun I ever shot that was surpressed, a P22!

#1, MP5A3SD
2nd: Ruger 10/22 with integral surpressor from Tactical Operations....WOW!

Correia
April 4, 2007, 01:58 PM
I own an NFA gunstore. I get comments like this, from gun people nonetheless, about every single day.

I look at them, totally calm, and say, nope, I use the .22 to teach my kids so they don't have to be scared of the muzzle blast or flash, and develop a flinch. The others are because I'm mostly deaf, and I'm trying to keep what little bit of hearing I have left.

That usually shuts them right up. Then you take the time to educate them. Then I sell them a suppresor. :)

rino451
April 4, 2007, 02:33 PM
I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either.

I was thinking of Tommy Lee Jones in the Package shooting dimes off a 2x4 with an AUG with a silencer.

CypherNinja
April 4, 2007, 03:41 PM
I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either.

There was that scene in Air America(?) where they were hanging out playing putt-putt and that guy had a can on his 45. "For the neighbors." :D

Vitamin G
April 4, 2007, 03:46 PM
I can't think of a single scene in a single movie where people are target shooting with a suppressor, and I bet you can't either.


One of the older James Bond movies has 007 practicing on a moving sillhouette system with his PPK and a silencer. Q sneaks up on him and fires some pen-gun (i think) and obliterates/explodes one of the targets. Bond pauses, looks at his PPK, and you can tell he's thinking, "wow! must have triple-charged the case with some bullseye"

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