Kimber Aegis ll . wierd sights!


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possum
April 4, 2007, 12:15 PM
latly i have been seeing alot of gun magazines with the kimber aegis ll and the ultra rcp ll. so any way what is up with the sights on the little 9mm aegis ll ? it is kinda of odd and i have never before seen sights like this on a handgun. it is like a shallow tunnel that runs the lenght of the slide. they might be ok for cqb i guess, i don't know!:) really what is the point other than making it so the sights won't snag up, seeing as how it is a ccw design and all, but at a point don't you sacrfice performance, for something as little as that. there are lots of sights out there that can be used and do protrude from the gun, that do just fine. are the sights sticking up as far as normal sights do really that big of an issue?

another thing, while i am ranting.:fire: the safties on these things are small and it seems to me that they would be tuff to engage and disengage. again is miniizing this part come with enough pro's to out weight the cons?
any experience with them?

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Zundfolge
April 4, 2007, 12:38 PM
Actually the Aegis has regular sights, its the RCP that has the "gutter" sights.

The point is that they don't snag on stuff as easily and you don't really need fine tuned sights for SD shooting.


If they made the RCP with regular sights I'd think they would sell more. The melt down, the bobbed hammer, the abbreviated beaver tail ... all nice features, but I'm sorry I want sights.

Baphomet
April 4, 2007, 12:40 PM
There are sooo many available options for small, easily concealed .45 auto's that I don't feel I have to sacrifice anything. I don't care for the gutter-site OR the bobbed hammers on the Aegis/RCP's. And yes, the safeties look too small to me as well. That's why I wouldn't carry one. That's just me though. I'm sure someone, maybe a lot of people even, are thinking this is EXACTLY what they've been looking for. I'm just not one of them.

Master Blaster
April 4, 2007, 12:48 PM
they are just like the fixed sights on a combat revolver, for up close defense work, rugged no snag.

mdao
April 4, 2007, 01:19 PM
'Cept combat revolvers have a front sight post...

If they would have just stopped the trench a bit short of the muzzle and dropped a white dot in there and a pair of dots on the back of the slide, I can see this sighting system working well with a bit of Kentucky windage. As it is now, might as well have saved the machining and not included the trench at all.

possum
April 4, 2007, 01:51 PM
'Cept combat revolvers have a front sight post...
bingo!

Actually the Aegis has regular sights, its the RCP that has the "gutter" sights.

this is correct my mistake.

STAGE 2
April 4, 2007, 02:14 PM
For what its designed for, the RCP really doesn't need to have any sights. The accuracy is about minute of pie plate at 10 yards. Given that this is a lightweight 3 inch auto in .45 it has a decent amount of recoil.

I like mine very much because it is very compact and surprisingly accurate for how small it is. That said this isn't a target gun by any standards.

Wes Janson
April 4, 2007, 02:38 PM
I've got two of them, and I was told by Kimber that they got sick and tired of hearing from people that "it needs sights". At ten yards or less, you're going to be hitting center of mass. Part of the problem with the RCP is that it has a unique learning curve to it, that I suspect many people don't pick up on. I found it took me a couple boxes of ammo before I started to intuitively "feel" how to hold the gun. If you try looking down the gutter, you'll hit one to two feet low at 7-10 yards. The trick is learning to angle the barrel up just right, and compensating for the tendency to push the pistol sideways when pulling the trigger.

A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to shoot my RCPs for the first time in about six months. The first mag, I loaded up 7+1 rounds of Gold Dot and ran the target to 7 yards. My first two shots were the right height, but on the shoulder of the silhouette. I remembered the need to aim slightly left (being a southpaw), and proceeded to punch the next 6 shots into the sternum of the target, into a tidy group about 2-3 inches wide. For being as out-of-practice as I was, I felt it reflected very well on the weapon's shootability that I did as well as I did.

If you want to shoot paper targets accurately, get a 5" 1911. If you want 8 rounds of .45 ACP in a very small package for self-defence, that's why they built the RCP.

possum
April 4, 2007, 03:40 PM
The accuracy is about minute of pie plate at 10 yards.
I like mine very much because it is very compact and surprisingly accurate for how small it is
so minute of pie plate in your opinion is suprisingly accurate? :confused:

Wes Janson
April 4, 2007, 08:32 PM
so minute of pie plate in your opinion is suprisingly accurate?

Unless you're fighting rampaging midgets on PCP, that's more than sufficient at the distances it's intended to be used for.

possum
April 4, 2007, 08:35 PM
rampaging midgets doped up are common around these parts!:D

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