Glock owners: describe your trigger pull


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1KPerDay
April 6, 2007, 04:36 PM
Sorry for the separate thread, but I thought perhaps many were avoiding input on this thread due to its specific title.
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3270148#post3270148


The trigger [on a G30 I tried, see thread above], seemed terrible. It was lighter than my stock G23 up to a point, then got stiffer near the end and the break was sort of mushy. I was just dry-firing it so it may not be so noticeable when actually shooting.

Is that typical of glocks that have had their trigger springs swapped?

I much prefer the stock one if so... it's a firmer pull but it feels more consistent to me; more like a double-action revolver. I also don't know if the trigger was actually done by Robar or if the PO worked on it.

I've only tried "stock" G17s, 19s, and 23s by comparison... can any of you who have 'worked on' triggers describe what they feel like?

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CountGlockula
April 6, 2007, 04:49 PM
It really all depends on what was added onto the Glock.

Last weekend I tried out a stock G22 and the trigger pull was very smooth. Perhaps it was a rental gun and had 100,000s of rounds through it. I compared it with my G35 that has a 3.5lb connector and NY1 spring, mine had stronger-revolver like pull; which I like.

outofbattery
April 6, 2007, 05:36 PM
I have the NY-1 and 3.5# connectors in mine.I'd call the pull mostly similar to a short takeup on a DA revolver but that's not to say that it's anything as smooth as a S&W wheelie,just that it's firm and consistant compared to the standard trigger.

Blackadder
April 6, 2007, 05:45 PM
I installed 3.5# connectors on my G36 and G20, but didn't like it as well as the stock set-up. I probably should have left them on and added NY trigger springs and may do that in the future.

I think it's because of what I'm used to. My first pistol was a G19, and I had only shot DA revolvers prior to that. I wouldn't take the first 1911 I bought to the range for 3 months for fear of embarassing myself with an AD.

It's still my favorite trigger-pull, but the guns I have with over 5,000 rounds shoot the sweetest. Instead of the $0.25 trigger job, I call it the $1,500 trigger job. It's a lot more fun to smooth it out that way.

JDGray
April 6, 2007, 05:48 PM
Ughhhhhhhhheeerr....BOOM!:D

doubleg
April 6, 2007, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't take the first 1911 I bought to the range for 3 months for fear of embarassing myself with an AD.
Funny you say that, I usually shoot with a 1911 and my first AD was with a Glock. :uhoh:

fearless leader
April 6, 2007, 05:56 PM
I have 2 Glock 20's, and a Glock 23. The pulls are about 5-8 pounds, but the actual sear breaking is crisp.

I have a S&W Sigma 40VE, for which I overpaid, the trigger on that is insane!!
I WISH they had copied Glock!

whatbrick
April 6, 2007, 06:12 PM
I have a Glock 21 with the 3.5# connector and thousands of rounds through it. It's a smooth pull until a crisp break at the end. When fired from the trigger-reset point I can't feel the trigger move when I'm concentrating on the front-sight. All I can feel is the pressure applied to the trigger, then *BANG*.

El Tejon
April 6, 2007, 06:13 PM
Mushy.

Mainspring
April 6, 2007, 06:22 PM
The standard coil spring was too mushy for me. I installed a NY spring, and like it a whole lot better. It makes for a smooth, steady pull with a crisp release.

1KPerDay
April 6, 2007, 06:25 PM
Ughhhhhhhhheeerr....BOOM!

LOL

Vitamin G
April 6, 2007, 07:16 PM
I think the best way i've heard people describe the glock trigger pull is

"Imagine dragging your finger through a jar of peanut butter"

I upgraded to a 3.5# connector. Its more like mayonaise now. :D

glockman19
April 6, 2007, 07:35 PM
I upgraded to a 3.5# connector. Its more like mayonaise now.

I upgraded to the 3.5# too. It is as close to my 1911 as you will get a golck to be. I have only done this on my Glock 19. My Glock 26 has the OEM trigger because I carry it and don't want to have issues should I have to actualy use it in defense.

install the 3.5# and DO NOT installteh HY trigger just the 3.5# and you should be very happy.

amprecon
April 6, 2007, 07:40 PM
Amplified two stage military style

LiquidTension
April 6, 2007, 07:46 PM
My duty G22 had the NY2 trigger in it. That felt like draggin a cement block over the side of a cliff. I swapped the NY2 for a standard trigger spring, now it feels like a normal Glock - which is, to quote El Tejon, "mushy."

Still 2 Many Choices!?
April 7, 2007, 12:09 AM
It is "mushy", but who said mushy had to always be bad:confused: ? Kind of reminds me of squeezing wet bread, but I still end up carrying it more than the 1911 or anything else;) .

Still 2 Many Choices!?

possum
April 7, 2007, 12:13 AM
my 19 had the 3.5 in it, and though i liked it much better than the stock trigger i still diddn't like the trigger overall like i do on other guns in the same category.

gudel
April 7, 2007, 12:47 AM
CRISP break. all stock.

grimjaw
April 7, 2007, 12:54 AM
Mushy, but not too heavy and the break is positive. I have the 5# factory trigger.

jm

10-Ring
April 7, 2007, 01:28 AM
I would say the trigger on my G19 is smooth, consistent & crisp. In the past I would change to the 3.5# trigger but found them mushy so I've stayed sotck w/ my 19 :cool:

pablo45
April 7, 2007, 02:19 AM
My trigger on my Glock22 is very smooth and i am totally adjusted to it. I think as i have practiced with it i have worn it in well. It is maybe at the most a 4lb pull or so,i have never checked it just best guess. A small dose of heaven to my finger if that help's any.

Redhat
April 7, 2007, 11:14 AM
My G23 had that ball point pen spring feel, couldn't like it, so I traded it. I found the gun okay in that it went bang, but accuracy wasn't that good.

It was a first gen, so maybe they've improved since then.

wally
April 7, 2007, 12:02 PM
Models 17 & 21, one word: Awful. Worse trigger out of the box on any gun I've got that cost over $300 new.

Now that I've put in the 3.5lb connectors I'd say they are tolerable, but I question if they would be safe to carry with this setup.

--wally.

JDGray
April 8, 2007, 10:04 AM
The trigger on my G19 is totally stock, very short consistant pull to break. I shoot from reset, so the takeup isnt an issue. I was drawn to Glocks because of their triggers, not the lightest trigger, but the same every time, and I love the short, positive,"pop", on reset.:)

Chris Rhines
April 8, 2007, 11:21 AM
2.5 pounds and smooth as glass.

- Chris

Jenrick
April 8, 2007, 05:55 PM
First I'm a Glock man, I carry a G34 on duty, so I'm not speaking poorly just to do so. My G34 is broken in, I'm sitting right around 9K rounds in less then a year. The parts have all been polished, and I've shot with all three connectors in.

Glocks have a fairly mushy trigger on the initial pull. The lower the connector weight, the mushier the trigger. A 8lb connector provides a fairly firm distinct break. A 5lb connector less so, but not too bad. A 3.5lb connector is the mushiest. Mush in this case is defined as the amount of smooth peanut butter on the glass rod that must be squished out of the way first. (Whoever had the bit about mayo vs. peanut butter that was all for you :)).

Having said, the trigger is not gritty, sloppy etc. There is still a distinct break to it at all weights of the connector. However the "crispness" of the break is directly related to the weight of the connector, more=crisper. A Glock trigger is not going to be a tuned 1911 trigger, I do feel however that it is FAR superior to DA/DAO triggers. I feel that is better then the DAK or LEM, but that's personal prefernce. Both of those triggers do exactly what their designed to do and do it well.

On the reset I feel Glock has a very good trigger. It may not be a short as a 1911, but it's shorter then most others. The pull from the reset position is usually extremely crisp with minimal mush regardless of the weight of the connector.

To everyone worried about carrying w/ a 3.5lb connector in. A 3.5lb connector does not drop the pull weight to 3.5lbs it merely changes one element of the trigger dynamic to 3.5lbs. The actual pull sits right around 4-4.5lbs with a 3.5lb in. This is why a lot of LE agencies (mine included) allow them in duty weapons. I personally carry a 5lb because I like the thinner layer of peanut butter it provides.

-Jenrick

KINGMAX
April 8, 2007, 05:57 PM
Ughhhhhhhhheeerr....BOOM! = (JMOH0)

KINGMAX
April 8, 2007, 06:01 PM
Ihave a GLOCK 21. The trigger is 'heavy'. Ughhhhhhhhheeerr....BOOM! = is just about right. I am sure that I won't just squeez off an arrant round. That is one reason it is my first choice for my primary carry.

bluto
April 8, 2007, 06:26 PM
The trigger on my G22 is pretty smooth and the pull weight feels consistent all the way through. It's stock and rated at 5.5 lbs but I find it to be more like a rolling trigger than a mushy one and, frankly, easy to transition to from my Sigs and 1911's. No complaints here.

jon_in_wv
April 8, 2007, 11:23 PM
I think you shoot actually shoot a Glock to see what the trigger is like. They feel just aweful when ytou dry fire them but the feel is much different when you shoot it. I thought I would hate it when I picked one up and then I was surprised at how well I could shoot it. The ergos are what I cant stand. Square slide, weird grip, aweful sights, yuck. It does what it is designed to do very well though. Not a bad choice for anyone really.

ajoker31
April 8, 2007, 11:49 PM
Just bought a G19. On the first range trip the break of the trigger was so heavy I had to switch hands after a while. Took it home cleaned, lubed it real well and dry fired 1,000 times. After that the break was perfect.

I did buy a wolff 4# striker spring....I like it, but the break may become too soft after a little time, we'll see....might go back to the stock spring if that happens.

Jerry

3rdpig
April 9, 2007, 12:45 AM
I've got 3 Glocks, all with the stock 5# connector, a NY1 spring and a 25 cent trigger job.

Trigger pull can be described as a springy take up, then the stop against the connector, then a sharp, clean break and BOOM!

I consider all my Glocks to be SD guns and I don't like lightweight trigger pulls on my SD guns.

Despite the fact that I grew up on 1911s and High Powers I've come to appreciate the Glock trigger pull. I find it safe, consistent and with practice, fast and combat accurate.

461
April 9, 2007, 12:52 AM
No complaints with my 34 as it came from the box. I'm conditioned to DA revolvers so it seems pretty light to me but breaks cleanly and is smooth. I've purposely not messed with springs or connectors at all as I want ultimate reliability and have seen reliability go down the tubes when people start messing with things in the name of a good trigger pull.

1KPerDay
April 9, 2007, 02:37 PM
Trigger pull can be described as a springy take up, then the stop against the connector, then a sharp, clean break and BOOM!

I consider all my Glocks to be SD guns and I don't like lightweight trigger pulls on my SD guns.

Yeah, I really like the stock trigger on my G23. Very consistent and I'm pretty accurate with it. Some here have said that softer connector springs may contribute to the mushy feel, and I wonder if that was the issue on the Robar I tried... the takeup was noticeably lighter, then it stiffened up near the break. The break itself was the annoyingly mushy part. Perhaps with the stock springs the takeup and the "mush" is similar in weight, and you don't notice it.

In any case, if I ever have a glock with the lower-rate spring I think I'll switch it back to stock.

JohnKSa
April 9, 2007, 03:23 PM
Some here have said that softer connector springs may contribute to the mushy feel, and I wonder if that was the issue on the Robar I tried... the takeup was noticeably lighter, then it stiffened up near the break.A lighter/softer trigger spring (is that what you mean by "connector spring"?) will result in a heavier pull weight during the takeup phase of the trigger pull.

fattsgalore
April 9, 2007, 04:07 PM
I'm not sure but one of these days I'll have to have a gunsmith check my trigger pull, gotta be higher then a normal Glock.

I've shot a G17 and handled a G20 both of which were smoother when compared to my G23. The guy whom let me shoot his G17 agreed mine had a heavier breaking point. Initial pull is fine but my breaking point is a bit excessive not a good range gun but good so I won't put one in my testicles.

My guess is some how I got a Miami trigger, or I just need one of those 25cent trigger jobs I always hear about.

Navy joe
April 9, 2007, 07:21 PM
My Glock 17 has a stock striker spring and all pertinent components are polished. The trigger bar spring is heavier than stock. The connector is a Ghost Rocket #5 which I use because of the overtravel stop. I use the #5 over a #3.5 to get a trigger that is slack up to a quick stack and crisp break. I shoot from reset and the reset is quite short, maybe .050", It feels like the same amount of movement required to reset a 1911. The weight is 5.5 lbs and very crisp.

The Glock 34 is gamed up, it has a Ti striker to help me use a reduced striker spring. Everything is polished, the trigger bar profile is changed slightly where it meets the connecter which is a Glock 3.5. A heavier than stock trigger bar spring is used. The pull is 3lbs and pulls pretty consistently through the whole pull, more like a DA revolver than the G17s pull. I have had, could easily get it lighter. All safety features function but I use the 34 for games only due to the light pull.

Keep in mind that when changing springs you could go down the wrong path lightening recoil springs as both the stiker and trigger bar springs exert rearward pressure on the slide. I think that can lead to the weapon being slightly out of battery.

1KPerDay
April 9, 2007, 08:29 PM
A lighter/softer trigger spring (is that what you mean by "connector spring"?) will result in a heavier pull weight during the takeup phase of the trigger pull.
I don't know what I meant... I know next to nothing about how Glock trigger groups work, other than basic function. I probably misunderstood what people posted. Thanks for the clarification.:cool:

JohnL2
April 10, 2007, 11:17 AM
Fired a Glock .40 caliber not long ago. First time messing with a Glock.
It was light, recoil was moderate, and the pistol felt solid.
The trigger was very odd. A lot of travel on it. I am too use to my 1911 single-action. I am sure you could get adapt to the Glock though.
Personally, I wouldn't own one. Not a big fan of "plastic" pistols.

deltacharlie
April 10, 2007, 12:53 PM
my carry glock (23) has the NY trigger-spring, heavier better, imo.

my competition glock (17) is all stock, crisp and clean with no caffeine and i shoot gssf in the 490's, btw.

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