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tikkat3
April 6, 2007, 08:52 PM
What do you guys think is the best (affordable) chronograph out there for accuracy and general performance?

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schmidtbender
April 6, 2007, 09:09 PM
Buy the best Chrony you can afford, you can't go wrong
www.shootingchrony.com

Matt Dillon
April 6, 2007, 09:47 PM
Whatever you do, purchase one where the Chronograph is not integrated with the screens - one misplaced shot, and you are purchasing a new chronograph! I have an old Pact that I purchased on eBay that still works like it did when new!

floridaboy
April 6, 2007, 11:31 PM
I love my Chrony!

RidgwayCO
April 7, 2007, 12:48 AM
CED Millennium chronograph

LHB1
April 7, 2007, 12:59 AM
Best chronograph: Oehler M35P with built in printer and proof channel, if you can find one used. Mine is not for sale! Oehler stopped selling new ones to concentrate on larger, professional equipment but will continue to service existing M35's.

Good shooting and be safe.
LB

bensdad
April 7, 2007, 01:01 AM
Buy a cheap one... if you're anything like the rest of us, you're just gonna shoot it anyway. :banghead:

joneb
April 7, 2007, 01:22 AM
I think Oehler and CED share the same basic technology which is the most accurate available to us Plebes.

CZ57
April 7, 2007, 02:58 AM
Check out http://www.midwayusa.com/ they have many of them and you can see how their owners rated them. Pact has one that starts at $130 and uses separate skyscreens. I doubt you'll go wrong with any of them, but I would make sure that the one you select will give you extreme spread and standard deviation data.;)

schmidtbender
April 7, 2007, 12:03 PM
Yup I did it once but just nicked the top of the metal. How not to do it again? After you have everything setup look thru the bore, if you can see the metal case in the center you have a problem.

hairtrigger
April 7, 2007, 06:24 PM
I would buy a used Oehler long before I settled for a chrony

schmidtbender
April 8, 2007, 01:28 PM
but had you tested a whole bunch different brands as the guys at our club have, you would find, as we did, that there wasn't any worthwhile difference except in convenience.

Clark
April 8, 2007, 01:35 PM
I have had two Shooting Chonys.
I shot the first with 45Colt.
I shot the second with 9mm.

The Pro Chrono PAL I have now is better.

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/highresimage?saleitemid=113204

There may be something better, but after the Shooting Chronys, this is like heaven, triggering on every shot.
I hope I don't put a hole in this one.

foxmeadow
April 9, 2007, 02:19 PM
I too have a ProChrono, and have been very happy with it. If you do happen to shoot it, the mfr. will recondition it, regardless of condition, for 50% of the retail price. That's how I read the warranty, anyway.

crowbuster77
April 9, 2007, 11:36 PM
love my pact. remote screens in case of impact. easy to read and see all info as its right by your side.:)

cheygriz
April 10, 2007, 01:06 AM
Oehler!

Idano
April 10, 2007, 02:49 AM
tikkat3,

All the chronograph mentioned work exceptionally well and you would be happy with any of them. I tend to agree more with those that told you any chronograph you buy will work just fine. The accuracy variance between all the manufactures are minimal and none I know of are NIST traceable, the biggest differences between the different chronographs is additional features; such as number of shots stored and the different calculations they will do. If you are only going to use it to work up loads like most of us you are only looking for two things: the apex where max accuracy and max speed meet and repeatability. If you don't mind writing down the numbers after every shot then any entry model will do just fine. I have a very old Chrony that uses cardboard diffuser supports that I only use on bright days with 22 cal bullets, otherwise, I don't use the diffusers at all. I have compared it to my friends Pro Chrono and it was within 20 fps and who is to say which was more correct.

My advice is spend what you feel you can afford for something you won't use that often most likely and you won't be upset loosing if you or someone else accidentally shoots it.

mc223
April 10, 2007, 07:56 AM
I lined up my Shootin chrony Beta master with a friends Oehler 35. 3FPS differencewith the chrony in front. 2FPS difference with the Chrony behind the Oehler.
+1 for the Shootin Chrony and a lot less dollars.

45crittergitter
April 19, 2007, 03:38 PM
Anybody tried the new PACT with IR screens?

Matt Dillon
April 19, 2007, 03:39 PM
Pact! Look for a used one on eBay

db_tanker
April 19, 2007, 04:56 PM
I like my Beta Master Chrony...comes with a remote that you can see and you can hook a printer up to it as well...it can store I think like 6 strings of 10 shots each...I honestly don't use that...instead I just use the old Mk1 pencil and my little yellow load book. :)


I didn't shoot the damn thing, but I DID shoot one of the sky-screen rods...Lowes has steel rod that can be used in its place...


D

nitesite
April 20, 2007, 09:41 PM
On cloudy/overcast days you won't need the diffusers.

That's when I put away the steel rods and use 5/32" wood dowels cut to 14". If a dowel gets shot there's no stress on my chronograph. I guess so, anyway. I haven't shot my chronograph (yet), not even a rod.

Chrony Beta Master w/ printer is what I use.

ranger335v
April 20, 2007, 10:06 PM
I doubt any of them are more "accurate" than the others. It comes down to price and features.

If price rules, get a Chrony. For the best combination of features in a current production unit, look at the PACT "Pro". It has seperate sensors, a built-in printer, an excellant statistics program and it prints a useful trajectory chart too.

Pact replacement sensors are, or used to be, the least expensive available but there is no rational reason to be shooting them.

tikkat3
April 21, 2007, 08:45 PM
Crony seems the way forward! I have since borrowed a friend's Crony and was trying it out this afternoon. I shot 75gr A-MAX in .223 (24.2gr Varget, Lapua brass CCI 400 primers) at speeds of between 2753 fps and 2829fps. The Crony was set up so its front screen was 15 feet from the muzzle of the rifle.

I have personally been going towards a CED M2, but it costs a little more than a Crony and I am no longer sure it is worth the extra.

-terry
April 21, 2007, 11:19 PM
I bought a Beta Chrony but I'm sending it back. Won't reliably read. Generates lots of errors, basically unusable.

I've tried with and without diffusers, 8" to 2" and it just don't work (for me).

Think I'll buy the new CED digital when it's available.

sphpkr
April 26, 2007, 10:59 AM
My F1 Chrony on top of a cheap camera tripod works fine.
I too shot a rod but as I work in a machine shop, replacements are not a problem.

floridaboy
April 26, 2007, 11:11 AM
I have a Chrony and like it.

Handgunr
April 26, 2007, 12:02 PM
I've got the Chrony "BetaMaster" and to be honest, it's been a really great working unit. I haven't had a problem at all with it.
Prior to buying one, I used an old friend's Oehler, but shortly afterwards bought the Chrony because I was low on funds, and after reading about it, I decided to buy one. I live about an hour southeast of where they're (Chrony) located, and I spoke with the factory a couple of times prior to buying one.....they assured me I would be happy, and guaranteed it.....so, what the heck.

Needless to say, I've had my chrono for, hell, 10yrs. or more I gottta think......and I've shot thousands of rounds over it (no I haven't hit my rods yet-ancient chinese secret) and it's been great.
I have had iscolated errors, or failure to read's that have happened now & then, but once you start to realize that it's all based on light, it becomes simple to troubleshoot a problem.
Diffuser's on bright, clear, sunny days, and none on the cloudy ones. You can only shoot so early, or late in the day (dawn or dusk) when there's fading light......no brainer there.

My father in law liked mine so much that he went ahead and bought one. We ran them against each other to see how my old one fared, and end to end (and back & forth) they were very, very close (within a couple fps)

I gotta send my readout in for a tuneup though because it's starting to get hard to discern the digits in direct sunlight though. I'll have it recalibrated when it goes as well.
Best money I've ever spent, and I'm very happy with it.

Bob

-terry
April 26, 2007, 08:45 PM
Well, earlier in this thread I said I was sending my Chrony back. Nevermind.
On another forum someone suggested that the Chrony was too close to the gun so I moved it back to the limit of the remote cable. Now it works fine, 60/60 .22 rounds captured, no errors, etc. Just my stupid pilot error.

Sure is cheaper than the other ones.

-terry

Handgunr
April 27, 2007, 09:49 AM
Terry,

Oh yeah.......10-12ft. minimum. Many times the blast gases will screw with the sensors somehow if it too close.

I made a spot off the end of my bench and used a, 8' 2x6 that hooks on when I need to use the chrono. When I hook it to the bench and drop the legs on the end, the chrono is at exactly 10 ft., and even the 45-70, nor the slug guns bother it.

Good to go now...........

Bob

dcloco
April 27, 2007, 08:24 PM
I have owned three flavors - Shooting Chrony, CEI, & Pact.

The Chrony brand - well...the directions suck and it is hard to navigate in the screens.

CEI - excellent for the money. Does NOT like cloudy or dark days.

Pact - I like this one the best.

StrikeEagle
April 29, 2007, 02:11 AM
I'm not a statistician, nor will I ever be mistaken for one.

All I want is to fire a string every now and then to see what kind of velocities I'm getting. Shooting Chrony does this for me on the cheap. I'm happy. :)

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