Why "gun control" is a pipe-dream...


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SDC
April 8, 2007, 07:04 PM
Something similar was posted here a while ago, but the Dust My Broom blog has an even longer one up showing a trip through the "arms factories" of Darra. This should convince just about ANYONE that "gun control" is a pipe-dream of ludicrous proportions. He shows everything from Tokarev handguns, to AKs, to freaking LEWIS guns being made and sold by these people that live in mud huts. He also needs to learn something about muzzle and trigger control.

http://www.bloggingtories.ca/btFrameset.php?URL=http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DustMyBroom/~3/107550095/&title=Gun Markets of Pakistan

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Professor K
April 8, 2007, 07:12 PM
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FINDING THE FULL VERSION OF THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw a 1 minute one a while back, and loved it. I just gotta find a way to save this to my comp now.

As for pipe dreams, I'll show you all mine in a second.

El Tejon
April 8, 2007, 07:26 PM
Whoa! I grabbed my credenza a couple of times. The way they waved those guns around, gave me the hebee jebees!:eek:

SDC, thanks much for the video. That was great.:)

If people with a 3rd grade education who live in mud huts are replicate a AK74, just think what American educated and well-equipped machinists can do in their garages.;) I am certain that here at THR we have at least a few dozen people who can make a 100 copies of a PPS or a Sten in their sleep. Not that they will, but they can.

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 07:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/profk/sumpakshell.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/profk/sumpak3.jpg

My pipe dream, hehehehehe.

xd45gaper
April 8, 2007, 08:04 PM
^^^^^that looks so illegle in SOOO MANY WAYS!!!!:eek:

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 08:07 PM
I live on the edge.....:cool:

Actually, it has no firing pin, but to make it, you just need a wooden dowel with a nail in it.

Just did it as an example...

To make it legal, you need a 26 inch barrel.

Gifted
April 8, 2007, 08:34 PM
I wonder if I can get a summer internship with some of those guys.

Deer Hunter
April 8, 2007, 08:41 PM
The guy didn't impress me much. He seemed pretty clueless about firearms. The most interesting aspect of the video, in my opinion, is the "Norinco" being made in pakistan.

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 09:13 PM
"Made as USA." The best.....

Let me upload an .avi file of it for you guys, so you can put it on DVD or VCD easy.

El Tejon
April 8, 2007, 09:44 PM
O.K., watched it again and now I think we can start picking nits.:D

1. The weapon handling was horrific and made me sick.

2. Calling a SPAS 12 copy a "rifle" is just wrong.

3. Calling a Lathi a "Nazi gun" and "pure evil" was wrong.

4. The shooting was horrific.

1K guns a day for 70 years. That 25.5 million guns. That's a decent start.:)

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 09:58 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xwkx4y

There it is in downloadable .avi format. Have fun!

Telperion
April 8, 2007, 10:00 PM
I spent all this money on reloading equipment and I could have just hit the bullet in with a hammer? :D

Hokkmike
April 8, 2007, 10:04 PM
Very interesting video. Thanks!

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 10:05 PM
It's the Paki Lee Loader. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I1i8Toj8E

This guy got the right idea.

Beagle-zebub
April 8, 2007, 10:46 PM
I saw a National Geographic article on Afghanistan once, and it had a picture from the badlands of Pakistan that was along these lines; in it, eight or so little Pakistani boys, who couldn't have been more than 11 years old, were filing away on (dehorning?) the frames to what looked like 1911s.

Something just occurred to me--how do they get/make their smokeless powder?

Professor K
April 8, 2007, 11:14 PM
Well I heard long ago, they'd get old nitrocelluse film and grind it up.

I'm wondering if I could make it by just dipping cotton or something in nitrocellulose lacquer would work.... I read directions on how to make guncotton from nitric acid and kno3 (from totse, which isnt the most reliable source of info) but it seems you need real nitric acid to do it.

I hear they just get bags of generic gunpowder, and sit on them while reloading cartridges. Yes, "we use green dot in milk cartons"...

Gifted
April 9, 2007, 03:34 AM
There're various ways. I've had it recomended to get a set of dictionaries from before 1910. For some reason, they started taking a lot of info out of them. Like making nitroglycerin(I've been told they leave out the metal vs wooden spoons, but I'd have a few notes in the margins with that), blackpowder, smokeless, things like that. It's a lot harder to make from scratch than with our wonderful industrial base, but it's possible.

Kaylee
April 9, 2007, 08:56 AM
wow... now that is dedication.

Never underestimate humanity's desire to stay armed, I reckon.

-K

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