Does anyone know anything about the quality, reliability and accuracy of Beretta revolvers? I'm looking at the Stampede Marshall and I was hoping someone here knows something this revolver.
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April 12, 2007, 02:20 AM
I have two Stampedes and they are exellent. Fit and finish are much nicer than Rugers and their as strong as they need to be. They also use coil springs in a few choice locations improving the colt action. They use a transfer bar allowing safe carry of six rounds. As far as strength goes well, I'll say I've probably pushed one of mine further than I had any buisness doing with handloads and had no problem. I highly recomend them and feel they are hands down the nicest looking of the colt clones with the exeption of USFA.
The beretta's are reportedly well made and reliable. They have the transfer bar safety which is a really nice feature and makes it a more practical gun in my opinion. That birds head grip frame is a matter of preference. People with small hands tend to like them a lot. They don't handle heavy recoil especially well because a birds head gun doesn't roll in your hand like a plow-handle.
April 12, 2007, 11:35 AM
When I started in CAS I bought a Vaquero Birdshead, Taurus Gaucho and Beretta Stampede.
I finally settled on the Vaquero BH primarily because the combination of the larger frame and BH grip suited my hand better. Once I found a second matching Vaquero I sold my Beretta and will probably soon sell the Taurus.
The Beretta was a fantastic gun and out of the box ran better than the Ruger. Believe it or not my Taurus is as smooth as the Beretta action & trigger wise but the Beretta out shot the other two by a pretty strong margin.
Had the traditional plow handle grip suited me better I would have standardized on the Beretta. The only reason I kept the Taurus and sold the Beretta was economics, I was able to sell the Beretta used for much more than the Taurus.
Any way, the only down side I can think of to the Beretta is that they use a clear coat over their case hardening (their case hardening is a faux finish), you can't use products like Gun Scrubber or it will remove the clear coat.
April 12, 2007, 02:34 PM
I think the Beretta Stampede series and the Ruger New Vaquero are close competitors.
Fit and finish on the New Vaq is improved over previous Rugers. The New Vaq and it's mid-frame cousin the 50th Anniversary 357 Blackhawk are among the best guns Ruger has ever made. They're also parts-compatible with a lot of the rest of the Ruger product line: mine wears a SuperBlackHawk hammer for example.
The Stampede is a good gun, but I believe the New Vaq is better. Not by a huge margin but I bought a New Vaq 357 and have no regrets. Ruger has a HUGE edge in customer support and repair policies.
The Marshall grip frame is closer to the old Colt Lightning. It's ability to control big recoil is marginal, but it's very handy for milder fodder. It indexes in the hand well. Strong 357 ammo is liable to hurt, as will the more potent 45LC loads that are still compatible with guns as strong as the Stampede, New Vaq, Gaucho or the Colt SAA 2nd/3rd gen.
The Lightning grip frame was designed for recoil levels on par with standard 38spl loads or very light 44s like the old Russian. If that's what you want to play with, for example shooting 38s in CAS/SASS competition, or shooting mild 357s as a street defense load, then this grip frame makes sense. There's an aftermarket version for the Ruger but...I've heard mixed reports on how available they are: