VA Tech not the worst in history


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vta33
April 17, 2007, 01:57 PM
Va. Tech not the worst in horrific history of school massacres
By LISA HOFFMAN
Scripps Howard News Service

http://www.sitnews.us/0407news/041607/041607_shns_worst.html

The article does not include the shooting at a University in Montreal, Quebec. I don't have a URL for that one.

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Daniel T
April 17, 2007, 02:00 PM
It is the worst shooting massacre.

The majority of the reports I've seen make that distinction.

velojym
April 17, 2007, 02:35 PM
How about Waco...
or Wounded Knee?

Oh... that was the government... doesn't count as murder...

Beatnik
April 17, 2007, 02:41 PM
Precisely.

It's simply too much effort to qualify it by saying "the worst shooting massacre not perpetrated by a person in an official government capacity, and not involving any resistance, and not specifically against non-whites, in US history, by which we really mean only the last 100 years".

I think it's up to us to use these other examples to enlighten the public as to the fact that there is, indeed, bias in news reporting.

tulsamal
April 17, 2007, 02:47 PM
I've told many people over the years about the Bath school incident. Personally I think wikipedia has a better article in this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Gregg

scurtis_34471
April 17, 2007, 03:31 PM
Fox has been calling it the worst masacre in U.S. history. They have not qualified that as the worst gun masacre or anything else. What the hell do they call 9/11?

seeker_two
April 17, 2007, 03:35 PM
Fox has been calling it the worst masacre in U.S. history. They have not qualified that as the worst gun masacre or anything else. What the hell do they call 9/11?

...or Oklahoma City... :mad:

JCF
April 17, 2007, 03:50 PM
The article does not include the shooting at a University in Montreal, Quebec. I don't have a URL for that one.

Are you referring to the 1989 Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal? There were 15 persons, including the shooter, killed in that incident.

vta33
April 17, 2007, 04:13 PM
Yes, that's the one. The 1989 Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal.

Oohrah
April 17, 2007, 04:22 PM
Sad part is it's turning towards comment from those UN countries and
our own to elimination the evil firearms instead of evil people. This is
being done before the healing and any facts are confirmed.:fire:

MikePGS
April 17, 2007, 04:55 PM
I have an issue with this. I don't mean with the statement by the OP but rather by the news media that this is the "Worst massacre". Is that to say there some massacre is the best massacre?

tube_ee
April 17, 2007, 09:58 PM
Plenty of news commentators, and right-wing radio talk-show hosts, have referred to 9/11 as "the bloodiest day in American history", totally forgetting Shiloh, Antietam, the second and third days at Gettysburg, Chickamauga, Spotsylvania, and probably others I'm forgetting.

As to "the worst shooting in US history", I think "Bloody" Bill Anderson and the dead at Lawrence might dispute that. As might the residents of several black towns massacred during and after Reconstruction. And the dead at Wounded Knee, among many others.

It seems like American history begins somewhere in the 1950s, when TV became popular. That's sad.

Is this event a bloodbath that should be numbered among the worst we have seen? Of course. And in no way am I attempting to minimize the loss we have all suffered, or the loss that the survivors and the victim's families have suffered. This is a grievous blow. But to exaggerate it beyond other, worse massacres, that occurred farther back in our collective past than the media thinks our knowledge and attention spans goes dishonors those previous dead. Context and history matter.

--Shannon

SteelyNirvana
April 17, 2007, 10:04 PM
This is the worse shooting spree massacre in the US. Up until Monday the worse was in '92(?) when that fellow drove his truck into the Luby's restaurant down in Texas and killed 23 people. The worse before that was a shooting spree at a McDonald's in California in the early 80's. One of the networks, I believe it was Court TV had a documentary on these nuts. I saw it late last year.

Just my two cents,
Brian Craig

I found this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,2058860,00.html

Aguila Blanca
April 17, 2007, 10:05 PM
Wasn't there also a rather large and bloody shootout involving Pancho Villa's raiders that left dozens of dead and wounded? I think it was written up recently in one of the gun rags. Does anyone remember? Something about three machine guns that the Army had and were able to bring to the party.

average_shooter
April 17, 2007, 10:08 PM
velojym-

How about Waco...
or Wounded Knee?

Oh... that was the government... doesn't count as murder...

Velo- That was actually my first thought when I heard it referred to as "worst masacre."

Good to know I'm not the only one who remembers the forgotten...

MikePGS
April 17, 2007, 10:43 PM
This isn't even the bloodiest shooting in virginia history, unless of course your pretending the civil war didn't happen. That doesen't make it any less tragic, but its a shame that the media has to hype something in order to make themselves feel more important.

psychophipps
April 17, 2007, 10:47 PM
How about Waco...

Oh... that was the government... doesn't count as murder...

No, that was suicide...and no, it still doesn't count as murder.

Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )

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