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April 19, 2007, 09:28 AM
Just a little rant here, I’ve read in this forum, and on the news services over the recent tragedy at Virginia Tech. about the gun laws in the USA, and how England said this, France said that, and Mexico said something else. Well you know what, to hell with them. Yea we have our share of problems in this country, and for the most part we can work them out and agree to disagree. But the biggest thing we have here is the freedom of choice. We can voice our opinions, talk to our legislature, and make a difference.

Just because they have left their county un-guarded for the most part by taking away the populations guns, does not mean that “We the People” should follow suit and leave ourselves and our country open for any power to be, to waltz into our country and take over. We have always been a strong country, and I believe we will continue down that path as a leader and not a follower, we just need to keep voting, and keep reminding our elected officials of who they represent, it’s “We the People”

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Titan6
April 19, 2007, 09:34 AM
The issue here is patterns:

England- Mass school shooting = Gun bans

Australia - Mass shooting = Gun bans

America - Mass shooting = ?

We hope it will be to remove crazy guns laws but we must examine the lack of success in other countries that have imposed gun bans in reaction to mass shootings.

barman
April 19, 2007, 01:32 PM
about the gun laws in the USA, and how England said this, France said that, and Mexico said something else.

You know, it's not a country in particular, it's just the whole international Main Stream Media which is just ganging up on the US constitution...
According to me, no French politician said anything about the tragedy.

armoredman
April 19, 2007, 02:17 PM
Titan, you might be closer than you think, as I heard Tennessee had a legislative committee vote to allow firearms in state buildings, because of the VT incident. AZ Gov Napalitano, a Democrat, signed our Anti-Katrina confisctation law, after the incident. There may be hope after all.

Edit to add, Barman, the fr*nch didn't say anything, they were too busy surrendering to Giraldo Rivera.

thedpp
April 19, 2007, 02:20 PM
If they got invaded in a week from now they would all be asking Americans to help em out

Bob M.
April 19, 2007, 02:21 PM
Edit to add, Barman, the fr*nch didn't say anything, they were too busy surrendering to Giraldo Rivera.

Hahahahahahhaha!!!!:D

barman
April 20, 2007, 06:18 AM
Giraldo Rivera

I don't even know who the **** that is... whatever dude.

NukemJim
April 20, 2007, 08:40 AM
Warning, the following post may not be considered exactly High Road by some but it is readable by Art's Grandmother.

When I am annoyed by a political rantings, not debate, I love debate, but a ranter I sometimes respond by asking a question.

"It's been a long time since I took geography in shool, which half of Europe are you from ? The half that we saved or the half who we kicked their (biblical beast of burden)? :neener:

Please not you will not win any points with the above in a debate but it serves it's intended purpose it annoys loony tunes from Europe. :evil:

NukemJim

G36-UK
April 20, 2007, 08:48 AM
England- Mass school shooting = Gun bans


Hate to correct you there. It was Scotland that had the shooting.

Not to mention that said shooting could have been prevented if the police in charge of the FACs actually done their jobs.

There's one thing constant with every tragedy like this. A person goes nuts, and kills several innocent people. Unscrupulous gun-control advocates demand that equally innocent gun owners are punished for doing nothing wrong.

Anyone agree?

thirty-thirty
April 20, 2007, 08:53 AM
"The English said...The French said..." This is typical mass media BS.

Don't ridicule barman. He is pointing out who our real enemy is. Mass media is totally anti-gun. That includes Fok Snooze, although they sometimes pretend to be on our side.

Mass media has the power of suggestion, the power of scrutiny, the power of repetition, the power of censorship and the power of smear.

Everything is slanted in their favor and we have lost many liberties under their watch.

sterling180
April 23, 2007, 03:40 PM
England- Mass school shooting = Gun bans

I want you to undestand this for me.UK= England,Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland.

English gun massacres:(Only in England.)
Hungerford:1987.

Redfield District,Bristol:1987

Lowstoft,Suffolk:England 1987

Scotland: Dunblane in 1996

Wales:0 massacres.

Ntrn Ireland:0 massacres.Pistols and slrs are still legal.

England is a seperate country,on its own,but we internationally operate all political affairs collectively as one.We are called the UK or Great Britain,or GBR,for short.Our firearm laws for the mainland,operate in this way,except for Northern Ireland,who have a seperate law,from the mainlanders.Lucky sods,they are-indeed.

More examples are as follows:The British Armed Forces,The British Association of Shooting And Conservation,etc,etc.No Scottish or Welsh armies anymore,at all.

Titan6
April 23, 2007, 03:54 PM
England- Mass school shooting = Gun bans

I want you to undestand this for me.UK= England,Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland.

My apologies and thanks to all the kind citizens of the UK for pointing out my thoughtless error. And also thanks for bringing to my attention the difference in gun laws within the UK. I had thought they were all the same.

Is there a significant difference in the crime rate between leagal and illegal areas?

buzz_knox
April 23, 2007, 03:59 PM
We hope it will be to remove crazy guns laws but we must examine the lack of success in other countries that have imposed gun bans in reaction to mass shootings.

The reason the bans happened in those countries is that the culture war had been lost long ago. The socialist elements that dominated those countries and were able to push through bans as being necessary and appropriate in a civilized society are finding things a bit tougher in the US. They aren't in a position to call for a total ban, whatever the Democratic elite would desire at this time.

Rumble
April 23, 2007, 04:07 PM
Hungerford:1987.

Redfield District,Bristol:1987

Lowstoft,Suffolk:England 1987



Yeesh. Shoulda banned 1987, from the looks of it.

sterling180
April 23, 2007, 04:11 PM
No,but it was paranoia that drove them to go gun-banning mad and what had started the fear of,either a Rambo nutcase,grinning and covered in facial paint,wearing military gear,who might copy what Micheal Ryan did at Hungerford.This guy was killing himself laughing,whilst shooting his M1 Carbine and AK47,at local people and the police.Rambo 3 was banned over here,because it was claimed that Ryan was inspired by John Rambo's character,to kill-but it was most likely that he was inspired by the first Terminator movie and Lethal Weapon 1.The psycho,shooting out of the window,with a semi-auto rifle in Lethal Weapon 1 and the massacre scene,in Terminator 1,where the Terminator is killing any living cop,in sight,by using different guns,that it has.

Interestingly Martin Riggs was armed with a Beretta M92f and Ryan,possibly decided to use his one in the massacre.It was claimed also,that he liked the action comedys.Lethal Weapon 1 was released months,before Hungerford took place.

As for Mr Hamilton in 1996,he was inspired by Terminator 1,saying that he liked 'the killings in them.

But they felt then and still feel safer,that those nasty weapons,have long since been destroyed,for good.

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