.17 HMR - ruger M77/17
sasnofear
January 7, 2003, 02:40 PM
how cool! 1/4 MOA @ 100 yrds. Goes out to 200. Is this 'the' varmint cal. What does everyone else think?:scrutiny:
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Uncle Ethan
January 7, 2003, 04:27 PM
My buddy bought one from Marlin- a rimfire .17 on a necked down .22 mag- a lot of fun, but too light for coyotes.
sasnofear
January 7, 2003, 05:44 PM
2 lite @ 200 in sure, try -100. may get some good results!
pinetree64
January 7, 2003, 05:53 PM
I keep trying to talk myself into one but keep going back to a 22WMR. IMHO, a 22mag using the more mordern loads should give better terminal performance with the larger vermin.
It's cool, but I wouldn't use it on anything much larger then a crow.
Tim
Coltdriver
January 7, 2003, 07:47 PM
At and under 100 yards there are a lot of fellows that regularly drop coyotes with their .17 HMR's. There was a lot of scepticism about this ability early on but on the varmint forums there is now a lot of evidence that it will drop em in their tracks with great regularity.
You have to see the Hornaday V Max effect to appreciate it but it really explodes.
Much over 100 yards and unless you are good at shot placement its a less certain proposition and I think that past 150 yards it runs out of steam very quickly. I have talked to fellows that have nailed a rabbit or a prarie dog at 200 yards with one but conditions have to be calm and the shooter pretty good.
Ultimate varmit gun?? Don't think so.
Tons of fun from a new caliber? Absolutely:D Compelling reason to have one over a 22 mag? Personal fun factor and somthing different.
Probably as good as anything for rabbits and under and definitely a lot of fun.
At least two other ammo sources will be available this year so prices on that should come down a bit.
I have a Savage 93 and it is a favorite small game gun for me. The accuracy out of the box was excellent. A lot of fun for a $200 rifle.
Uncle Ethan
January 7, 2003, 09:11 PM
I use a Rem 788 in .223 for coyotes and I'm careful then - those boys are tough. To drop coyotes with a .17 they must be using a solid bullet- I better check those out again, they could be fun.
bad_dad_brad
January 7, 2003, 09:57 PM
I have the Marlin. Heck of a lot cheaper than the Ruger, although the Ruger is of better cosmetic quality. The Marlin .17 is a tack driver.
However, I think Coyotes are a bit too big a beast for that tiny little bullet. Within 100 yards, anything smaller than a wood chuck is toast!
Lot's of fun, albeit expensive (the ammo that is).
12 Volt Man
January 8, 2003, 09:25 AM
There are some folks who have modified their 10/22 mag to work as a 17hmr. I have read rumors from some who say that Ruger will come out with a 10/17. If this happens, I know I will pick one up. It would be a great "big" brother to my 10/22's.
Anyone know anymore about this?
Coltdriver
January 8, 2003, 10:59 AM
The only downside to a Ruger 10/17 that I can think of is that you could shoot up a lot of ammo very quickly!
Uncle Ethan
January 8, 2003, 11:20 AM
As to that, I have always wondered what the velocity difference is between the hottest 22 long rifle and the 22mag.
Larry Ashcraft
January 8, 2003, 11:36 AM
My son and I were shooting my Savage .17 HMR at the range last Saturday. The wind was blowing slightly. My son believes anything can be done so he was shooting at the 450 yard gong.
After a few tries, he started hitting it. The hold? About 12 FEET high and 2 feet into the wind.
Yes, they do drop off quickly after 200 yards.
sasnofear
January 8, 2003, 02:09 PM
I SEE SOME ARE SECPTICAL OF IT DROPPING LARGER GAME LIKE FOXES hpwever i can assure you they took it into acount and the little thing fragments and explodes on contact so will drop a fox @ 100 easy, small vermin out to 200. better than a .22Mag in all respects only 5.6" drop @ 200 yrds!
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