[Glock Glockler]

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/front/6076361.htm

I just figured I'd let you know.

[JohnBT]

"... received the Marian Anderson Award for social activism, he fired verbal salvos at Congress for dithering on gun control and at Hollywood for producing violent entertainment."

Seemed like an honest fellow. Good actor, too.

R.I.P.

John

[Drjones]

From the article: Mr. Peck was the first to admit that he enjoyed a "think Left, live Right" lifestyle. In the late '60s he bought a four-acre estate in the Holmby Hills section of Los Angeles, a sun-filled Tudor packed with works by Matisse and Vuillard.

Translation: I am a liberal philosopher-king. I know what is best for all you peon serfs. I will impose upon you peasants as many laws as possible to remake the world as I see fit. Of course, I shall continue to live as I see fit.

:rolleyes: :fire: :cuss:

Another liberal bites the dust.

I'm sorry, but I find it hard to feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for someone who thinks like that.

He's an admitted hypocrite fer cryin' out loud! :banghead:

[Boats]

Mr. Peck had gravitas--something that today's crop of celebrity loudmouth activists don't have and are too ignorant to understand why they might be as respected as Mr. Peck was if they had it.

I always had the sense that Mr. Peck came by his politics honestly, and even if he didn't, he could at least articulate them without sounding like an activist website regurg exercise.

On the irony note, Peck played a character in 1958's western range war saga The Big Country who wouldn't use a firearm. When pressed to violence later in the film he whoops up on a "rivalry" character played by Charlton Heston during a rather long fist fight that IIRC ends in a draw, proving his character wasn't a sissy. I got the sense that Peck wasn't one either.

As to the hypocrisy charge--I never heard of Mr. Peck regretting the rewards of capitalism like many on his side do. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy through one's own efforts and holding whatever politics one might harbor. If he were preaching how we should all live in poverty so that others might eat, he'd be a hypocrite. I do doubt that on the topic of gun control Mr. Peck was a hypocrite.

[CZ-75]

At least he took aim at his fellow lefties in Hollywierd for producing blood and gore fests, while most people who play pretend for a living participate to the fullest extent in the violence on the screen while admonishing us to turn in our guns. Meanwhile, they have a CCW permit they got b/c they're rich, important, and big demokratic party supporters. :barf:

[Carlos]

Great post Boats!!! :)

RIP, Mr. Peck.

[antsi]

I agree Peck is a much more respectable public persona than the current crop of celebrity know-it-alls.

A guy like Peck, I can disagree but still respect the man.

The sanctimonious hypocrites currently inhabiting Hollywood don't meet that criteria.

[Standing Wolf]

Anyone who preaches disarmament of the common people is an enemy of America.

[Drjones]

Anyone who preaches disarmament of the common people is an enemy of America. Yep.

[Boats]

"Enemy of America?"

My personal belief is that demonization of the other side of an issue, (unless of course one is demonizing Glock owners :evil: ), is counterproductive unless it is done with humor.

Gun control advocates are wrong, misguided, wrongheaded, afactual, illogical, pusillanimous, or just plain shrill, but "enemies of America" implies something more sinister than a difference in politics.

I never make the mistake that our side is the only one with heartfelt beliefs. The other side certainly seems to have no monopoly on overheated rhetoric either.

It is possible to be gentlemanly while twisting the knife in the opponent's innards. There is no need for humorless disrespect, it just makes us look petty.

[Wild Bill]

Agreed.

Mr. Peck seemed a man of honor, quiet dignity, and character. He was without question an actor of considerable talent. He may not have been on our side, but he stood by his beliefs without fail. For all these reasons he will always have my respect.

His beliefs may have made him the opposition in the RKBA battle; but they are a poor excuse to demonize or belittle the man. He lived his life in dignity. We should all treat his passing with the same.

[12-34hom]

Excellent actor - stand up person.

Quite unlike the current crop of talentless actors Hollywood has produced as of late.

As far as his politics goes, i would not classify him as a " enemy of America"!

But for some here, if you don't agree with what i believe in it's = "my way or the highway" = :barf:

12-34hom.

[Rembrandt]

....I always enjoyed Peck's movies, my favorites were the following:

12 O'Clock High
Pork Chop Hill
The Guns of Navarone
MacArthur
McKenna's Gold
The Big Country

Can't say I agreed with his politics, many are not aware of it, but Peck was also close personal friends with French President Jacque Chirac....probably explains a lot...

[Frenchy]

Don't forget my all time Peck favorite..."To Kill a Mockingbird".

[Wildalaska]

You tell em Boats!

WildtakethehighroadAlaska

[Mr. James]

RIP indeed, and may the Lord have mercy on his soul. Thanks, Boats.

It is of passing interest that the loony left are dancing on Charlton Heston's grave when he has yet to depart this mortal coil, yet we can, largely, still respect the man while disagreeing intensely with his chosen causes.

Contrast that with the anti celebreties who actively wished him a violent death merely for his views.

RIP, Mr. Peck, may the Lord take and keep you.

[fallingblock]

That Gregory Peck did not have the practical approach to firearms displayed by his character, Atticus Finch, in "To Kill a Mockingbird"

The mad dog in the street scene -
Atticus steps into his house, returns with a .30/40 Krag Carbine, sets the leaf sight and shoots the dog from an offhand position.

Now there was a character whose approach to life was practical and deserving of respect...:D

Still, Gregory Peck certainly was w-a-ay ahead of the likes of Alec Baldwin when it comes to respectability. And Peck could act.:)

[Gray Peterson]

Was not the type to go on politics of personal destruction that the Baldwin brothers or many of the other hollywierd liberals did. The man believed in his beliefs, and respected others in their beliefs, too. The fact that Charlton Heston and Gregory Peck still respected each other despite their political differences is a testimony to Peck's general character, even if he was against us on one issue.

[Feanaro]

He might not have been on our side but, AFAIK, he kept it to himself. He had a dignity that most Hollywhore stars simply don't have and will never have.

[Ol' Badger]

Don't forget "Duel In The Sun" He played the BG and he seemed to like to shoot the hogleg of his.

[Shmackey]

Nice. Atticus Finch dies and you start talking ???? before the body's cold.

[Ol' Badger]

DAMN THE WHITE WHALE!!!


Had To. Sorry.:p :neener: :p

[mack]

From everything I've read he was a decent man and honest. I disagreed strongly with many of his political views. But at least from all I know, he was honestly wrong, and not a hypocrite like so many in your face liberals today. I recall a biography film on Charleton Heston where they interviewed Peck, he said that while he disagreed with "Chuck" on the "gun thing" that he was a fine actor, a fine man, and a good friend. He had strong lifelong friendships with many staunch conservatives. He also treated people with dignity and respect, whether he agreed with them or not, or whether they deserved respect. That is a rare thing in this world and even rarer in Hollywood. He was also a fine actor, his portrayal of Atticus Finch is one of the greatest star performances on film. So, despite his political views, I for one will mourn the passing of a decent and honorable man and a fine actor.

[Ol' Badger]

Hey why weep! We still have George Clooney don't we

Bwwwwhhaaaaaa :D

[JohnBT]

George Clooney?

I thought we were discussing actors. :neener:

John

[Ol' Badger]

<Grabs Gut> "Touche" <Falls over and does best dying scene ever>

[HankB]

Seemed like an honest fellow. Good actor, too.From everything I've read he was a decent man and honest. I'll leave his decency and acting ability to others, but he was something less than honest, at least when hyping his movies. For example, while doing PR for his movie "MacArthur," I remember Mr. Peck saying MacArthur landed in the Philippines on the beach "where fighting was heaviest..." and denied that The Return was rehearsed.

There was no more fighting there, the landing took several takes, and afterwards all film was confiscated by his underlings - majors and such - including unexposed film, so only "official" photos would be possible.

How do I know? My father was one of the "unofficial" cameramen who happened to be on the beach, filming the landing with, IIRC, a 16mm movie camera. There's an excellent probability that some of the newsreel footage you've seen of MacArthur's landing was filmed by my dad.

When the ONE statement Peck made that I can independently verify is not true . . . that doesn't speak well for his honesty.

[12-34hom]

Moby Dick & 12 O'clock High.

Classic movies, the likes of which we have seldom seen in the last 50 years.

12-34hom.

[bad_dad_brad]

I always liked Mr. Peck's acting. I know nothing of his politics.

There was a scene in the book "To Kill a Mocking Bird" where Atticus, a crack shot with a rifle from his army training in WWI, shoots a rabid dog with one shot - one kill. I don't recall that scene in the movie, but maybe it was. Perhaps someone can elaborate.

Let us not forget his inspired performance as Ahab in "Moby Dick" where his harpoon was just as deadly as any gun. And "The Big Country" is an awesome movie. Jean Simmons, oh my God, she is so sexy. Carol Baker, Burl Ives, Chuck Conners and the legendary Charleton Heston - wow - does it get any better than that!

On a side note, just a curiosity, I worked with a woman, maybe 15 years ago, she is long gone - with Lou Gherig's disease, who's niece was an international super model. This niece married Gregory Pecks's son, and I think subsequently divorced him.

If any Gregory Peck fan knows or remembers that niece's name, I would appreciate knowing. She was very beautiful and always looked different in the camera's eye. She had red hair, was tall, and willowy.

[Erik]

Celebrating the death of those you disagree with is distasteful.

[Drjones]

Celebrating the death of those you disagree with is distasteful.


Anyone who preaches disarmament of the common people is an enemy of America.

[Joe Demko]

Gloating over the death of a perceived enemy is exactly what numerous members of this board damned the Palestinians for not so long ago. "Dancing in the blood" crosses all sorts of ethnic and political lines it seems. It is distasteful no matter who does it.

[Atticus]

I had a good beagle once. Great rabbit dog -never knew his political leanings though. Could have been anti-gun I guess. I like Peck as an actor. I'm not sure what kinda gun control he was for, and I would most likely disagree with it, but I think you have to look at a persons overall accomplishments. Peck was a great actor and apparently a man of character and courage. I disagreed with Bill Ruger on the high cap mag ban as well, but a man is a closed minded fool if he can't acknowledge the accomplishments of those who achieved great things in their lifetimes...even if he disagrees with their viewpoint(s).

[Drjones]

Couple things:

1) I want to make it VERY clear that I am not "dancing in anyone's blood." While I may have a less than wonderful opinion of Mr. Peck because of his anti-gun stance, I do not rejoice in his death. I am not "celebrating" anything here.

2) What would everyone here say, especially those who accuse others of "dancing in blood," if this was Sarah Brady who had just passed?

[Boats]

2) What would everyone here say, especially those who accuse others of "dancing in blood," if this was Sarah Brady who had just passed?

Howabout "if only she had turned her energies to banning cigarettes.":D

[Atticus]

Dr Jones- Sarah Brady accomplished little else in life other than being an ignoramous. If she were a great painter, actress, singer, scientist, etc.; or more importantly someone who actually had a coherent thought process, and had the courage to act - I would acknowledge that, and say that she was misguided politically. There are those I would like to see dead, but politcal opponents aren't on the list. I'm no Saddam or Stalin.

I grew up around WWI/WWII/Korean vets. My Grandfathers, Father, Uncles, and all their friends served in those wars. I'd bet that nearly all of them would think we are silly to own AR's, AK's etc. Downright crazy really. They probably would have voted againt owning them if it had been an option. To say that people who hold that opinion are Un-American is an insult to them...even though we strongly dis-agree with them.

Keep in mind that Reagan was once a Democrat and that Heston once supported gun control. People can and do change.

[Jay Bakerr]

A couple of Gregory Peck's westerns which I always enjoyed, were "The Gunfighter," and "Yellow Sky."

I despised Peck's anti-Bill of Rights position, but he was a fine actor.

J.B.

[Hal]

RIP.

[Joe Demko]

If Sarah Brady had just died, I'd say nothing. My dancing in her blood would not make her any more dead, nor would it it reflect well on me to do it.

[MrAcheson]

Richard Dreyfuss wrote a piece on Chuck Heston right after Heston announced he had Alzheimers. Dreyfuss said that despite the fact that his politics are worlds apart from Heston's, liberals dancing on his coming grave disgusted him. He gave Heston credit for being a classy, polite, respectful, and considerate individual in the old hollywood style. Heston would never have done to someone else what the liberals were doing to him.

I am willing to extend the same courtesy to Gregory Peck. Yes he may have been across the aisle from me politically, but he was still a class act and deserves some common consideration and respect because of it.

Frankly, I don't think disagreeing with someone on politics, religion, etc should prevent you from having respect for someone as an individual, because if thats the case then how can you respect anyone who isn't a carbon copy of yourself?

[Monkeyleg]

Gregory Peck had a face and voice that were made for the movies. He also seemed very much the gentleman.

While I disagree vehemently with his politics, it's sad to see another of the real Hollywood stars pass away, if for no other reason than the new breed has no class.