Why no Blued S&W Revolvers?


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Unforgiven826
April 20, 2007, 01:38 PM
I have been wanting to buy a new S&W 357 4" to 6" but all I can find is stainless steel models. Why is there not many blued pistols avail from them any more. I have an older 4" model 19 but want a newer stronger pistol. Do I have to step over to a Ruger GP 100 to get blue steel? I just do not care for flashy shinny ss guns.

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wldmn13
April 20, 2007, 02:05 PM
Look for a gently used 586. It's just a blued 686. I found a beautiful like new one at a pawn shop last month and kick myself for passing it up at $350 because I had never heard of a 586. When I went back it was gone.

Like this http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=270445

Marshall
April 20, 2007, 02:08 PM
Depends how much you want to spend. Ruger would be your best bet for a blued 357 Mag at an affordable price.


http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/170269_large.jpg

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/170269a_lrg.jpg

Majic
April 20, 2007, 02:12 PM
Poor sales. The blued models just weren't selling like the stainless models. Now most dark colored revolvers are of the concealment type.

Unforgiven826
April 20, 2007, 02:28 PM
I have looked a couple of 586 S&W not at the price you saw. The M&P 357 is one sweet pistol but a bit out of my price range right now. I guess a GP 100 is in the future unless I get a S&W 686 and have a black oxide treatment done on it. It is a shame that S&W is getting away from bluing as they had such a beautiful finish.

ATW525
April 20, 2007, 03:03 PM
I have four Smiths bought brand new this year and each and every one is blued (okay, maybe the 442 is kind of pushing the definition of blued). You just gotta keep your eyes out, because blued guns tend to turn up in exclusive runs for various distributers.

cmidkiff
April 20, 2007, 04:27 PM
Economics. They build what people are buying.

I wanted one too... couldn't find one. I bought a 620 (stainless), because it fit all my other requirements.

On the upside, they are making a 29 again (HURRAY!)

DomMega
April 20, 2007, 05:19 PM
I just purchased a 442 myself. I forgot that I kind of missed revolvers over my autoloaders.

Unforgiven826
April 20, 2007, 06:23 PM
I have been into the autos my self as of late. I have a couple 1911's a a few Hi Powers and a beretta PX4. Only two revolvers left that were passed on to me by my father which are a S&W model 19 357 4" and a S&W model 53 22 Remington Jet 6". My brother got the Pythons I got the Smiths.

Baba Louie
April 20, 2007, 08:37 PM
How deep are your pockets?

http://www.lewhorton.com/

S&W makes a few now and then... and oh the prices you can pay for, oh, say a 2007 reproduction of a Registered Magnum in either 3.5" or 5"... :eek: But it does come with a certificate suitable for framing :D

Standing Wolf
April 20, 2007, 09:38 PM
What passes for Smith & Wesson "bluing" these days is paint.

bluetopper
April 20, 2007, 09:54 PM
I have a S&W 586, 357 for sale here.........cheap.

www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=70539701

Croyance
April 20, 2007, 10:07 PM
I think people might buy blued guns, just not at the price a truely blued revolver would cost.
It has to be polished and skilled polishing takes time. Flaws will show. Then it is blued - rusted for a few days. Then polished again.

Unforgiven826
April 21, 2007, 12:54 AM
I think people might buy blued guns, just not at the price a truely blued revolver would cost.
It has to be polished and skilled polishing takes time. Flaws will show. Then it is blued - rusted for a few days. Then polished again.

And yes what an absolutly beautiful finish you have after that sexy as all get up. I'll take blue over stainless any day.

Croyance
April 21, 2007, 01:24 AM
I ended up with some extra guns because the bluing was so nice, I couldn't say no. I have walked away from good guns that were stainless steel though.
I think the price is worth it, but the market might not.

MICHAEL T
April 21, 2007, 01:38 AM
I buy only good used Blue, no lock, S&W .No way I buying this new crap. I got a clean 19 2 1/2" with a nice leather shoulder holster . $300 Keep the stainless and the lock. I want mine to have just 2 numbers 29,36 19 ,49 and so on
Wake up Smith people want quality pistols and no locks Clinton is gone

DrLaw
April 21, 2007, 08:43 AM
MICHAEL T said: Wake up Smith people want quality pistols and no locks Clinton is gone


Amen! Bring back the Model 10 and 12 in all versions. The Model 27 and 28, and the 19!

The Doc is out now. :cool:

Ala Dan
April 22, 2007, 04:50 AM
Last week, we received a S&W factory reintroduction of a blued model 36,
5-shot "Chiefs Special" revolver. The weapon looked really nice with good,
tight fitting and lockwork. The laser etched wooden S&W grips had a flaw
near the butt (where the S/N is), so the weapon had to be returned to
S&W for a replacement. The "diamond" shaped grips were beautiful, but
the clear coat used was peeling. Stay tuned, as we should receive one
to replace it soon~! NO- I don't know what the price will be set at~!

351 WINCHESTER
April 22, 2007, 10:30 PM
It's all about money. It costs more to do a quality blue job. There's the polishing and the hot blueing. Besides most folks would rather have the stainless, including me. Oh, don't get me wrong, there's nothing prettier than a nicely blued gun, but they demand more attention as they will rust. I'll take a stainless revolver every time for my carry piece. I just picked up a like new smith model 64 with a 4" hb. Talk about slick. Try and beat than mr. ruger.

Z_Infidel
April 23, 2007, 10:12 AM
I own current production Models 10 and TR 22-4. I replaced the factory grips on both with Ahrends grips and the 22-4 has had an action job by S&W. I believe both of these revolvers are very well made guns with nicely done blueing and good fit and finish. They are both a pleasure to shoot. S&W is still making nice blued guns, perhaps not chambered for the cartridge you prefer.

BTW, until recently I owned a nice 586. While I would prefer to not have the lock, I find the quality of my newer revolvers to be on par with that 586 -- and it was a heck of a nice gun.

Trifler
April 24, 2007, 12:36 AM
According to Smith and Wesson's website, they offer to "Glass Bead Blue" for $123 or "Standard Polish and Blue" for $166. They also have example pics. This is on
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CustomContentDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=11101&content=18302&sectionId=11522

AFAIK this applies to every revolver they make.

Cosmoline
April 24, 2007, 12:50 AM
The old school bluing was apparently not easy on the environment. And as noted it required a ton of skilled labor. If you put an old minty Smith from the 50's against one of their modern "blued" revolvers, there's no comparison. You can get lost in the old blue.

Croyance
April 24, 2007, 01:19 AM
As non-PC as it is, I'll take the environmental risks for good bluing. There must be some way to contain the chemicals, after all and we are talking about an object of beauty. Guns aren't exactly high volume items either, the numbers made are pitiable in comparison to consumer items - Apple sold its 100 millionth iPod already.

Are there any modern finishes that can be applied to a blued gun that will help preserve it without detracting from the look?

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