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Nomad, 2nd
April 21, 2007, 09:59 PM
Well, it looks like I was right on the money.

I took out my 2 Ak74's today... good thing I got/brought both of them...

The first one would not fully extract.
Tried several different times, with 3 different mags.
The jam wasn't even a stovepipe... didn't get out that far.

That one's going back to Century... with another nastygram.

The second one shot well. I was shooting at 10" steel 'head' plates at 100 yards. (Already has G2 trigger installed)
it was KILLING them with my elbows on the bench, and I did a mag and a half at ~ a 50% hit ratio offhand (Head shots at 100, almost rapid fire)
(Will make more hits with the red dot)

I'm happy with that one... but I miss my Eotech... gatta order another ultimak...

Went through ~700 rounds



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Now allow me to share a handling trick I was taught at Tactical Response...

How to do an AK mag change:

I will assume you are right handed.:
Keep your right hand around the pistol grip, pull the AK in towards you while turning it so your palm is up and the bolt is towards the ground (Rifle muzzle at ~ 45 degree angle)
-This enables you to make the mag change without loosing site of your target area.

Take the new AK mag in your left hand, griping it at the bottom and use the middle front (where it curves) to run along the bottom of the trigger guard and hit the mag release... and then continue to push the old mag out of the magweld and let it fall.*

Then lock in the new mag, rotate the AK till it is canted with the bolt up, and use your left hand to run the bolt.

Lock the rifle into your shoulder and get back in the fight.


If your rifle jams:
Go to this place above: *
At that point run the bolt 3 times and continue with the drill.

To manuplate the safety:
First bend the AK safety lever away from the reciever so that it does not 'click' when it moves. This will also make it easier to move.

Put all your fingers together, with your thumb sticking out.

Put the pistol grip in the web of your thumb, and rotate your hand up till your middle finger can get a 'grip' on the safety.

Disengage the safety, and then resume your normal pistol grip.

-This will enable you to quickly disengage the safety, without removing your hand from the pistol grip. It may not work if you have very small hands.
(I came up with that one myself. I shoot rifles left handed but believe you should be able to use ether... if you have a better way please share it with me.)




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Nomad, 2nd
April 21, 2007, 10:46 PM
How to do an AK mag change:
LEFT handed.:
Keep your Left hand around the pistol grip, pull the AK in towards you while turning it so your palm is up and the bolt is towards the Sky (Rifle muzzle at ~ 45 degree angle)
-This enables you to make the mag change without loosing site of your target area.

Take the new AK mag in your Right hand, griping it at the bottom and use the middle front (where it curves) to run along the bottom of the trigger guard and hit the mag release... and then continue to push the old mag out of the magweld and let it fall.*

Then lock in the new mag, and use your right hand to run the bolt.

Lock the rifle into your shoulder and get back in the fight.


If your rifle jams:
Go to this place above: *
At that point run the bolt 3 times and continue with the drill.

possum
April 21, 2007, 10:54 PM
very interesting, i was wondering about how to do a fast mag change with an ak, that pretty much tells me there. now i need o practice it. sounds like a great day at the range except for the one ak sorry to hear that, hopefuly they will square that away for you. thanks for sharing the knowledge.

i have a question. did anyone by chance use wolf or other steel cased ammo in thier ar's, and what was the outcome. in my first ar i shot alot of it and it worked out great for me, but i have never put the amount of rounds in the two day period that the fighting rifle course calls for. so is this a good idea or not?
thanks again.

Nomad, 2nd
April 21, 2007, 11:01 PM
Some AR's work GREAT with Wolf. I've got a buddy who has run THOUSANDS of wolf through his bushmaster, with almost no problems.
Another buddy has one that will jam on EVERY round of wolf.

AR's are like .22's. You haveto find out what ammo it likes.

Edited to add: I would not recomend taking to to the class. the rifle will get very hot... then when it cools with one in the chamber the Laquor will 'melt' to the chamber... and it WILL jam.

If you are not gonna shoot 100's of rounds in 5 minutes... it's good plinking ammo.

possum
April 21, 2007, 11:19 PM
tango mike!

Evil Monkey
April 22, 2007, 12:04 AM
That mag change is the only way I practice.

I'm pretty fast. *CLICK-CLACK, CHICK-CHICK!!!!* :evil:

Feanaro
April 22, 2007, 12:50 AM
the rifle will get very hot... then when it cools with one in the chamber the Laquor will 'melt' to the chamber

Take an empty case and run it through the oven for an hour. Try to scrape some lacquer off. One moderator and another THR member have done just that and gotten nothing. The sealant seems to be the culprit. Neither is present on current production .223 ammo.

Nomad, 2nd
April 22, 2007, 01:02 AM
If you had asked me a couple weeks ago I could of take pictures of rounds which were missing it in patches after jamming up rifles.

Feel free not to believe me. (No scarcasm intended)

Edited to add: On the new wolf the silver stuff comes off the exterior of the shell... it's black underneath.
(If that's sealant... it still happens on the new stuff...)

Nomad, 2nd
April 23, 2007, 03:42 PM
Just got off the phone with century concerning my nonworking rifle.
(Today is my call all over and get paperwork done day, which has me goofing off here too much.)

They had to call me back, but here's what we set up:
I'm gonna mail them the gun and 1 mag, and they will send me a new Rifle and rembursement for shipping costs.

(Gonna have to talk to them about FFL fees.)
We shall see.

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