Rollback of Bad Gun Law


April 22, 2007, 03:39 AM
Another thread got me thinking. Let's wave our hands and assume for the moment the NRA took an aggressive position and started demanding rollback of bad federal laws pertaining to firearms.

What laws would be on your list? I assume the NRA et al monitors this board. Perhaps we can provide a few helpful hints.

Me first
--get rid of the ban on suppressors
--sporting purposes clause
--a statutory means of expunging records
--bust up the bATFE and send its components to other agencies.

Carry on!

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April 22, 2007, 10:24 AM
1986 Hughes Amendment (No New Machineguns)

April 22, 2007, 10:26 AM
The NFA.

April 22, 2007, 10:34 AM
Maybe then I could actually get an SBR legal...without the hassle from King County.

April 22, 2007, 10:43 AM
This is a hard one, afterall there are so many to choose from. NFA would be at the top of the list, State addendum clauses, so the millions of us under the thumb of fear mongering socialists states can be allowed to excercise our "uninfringable" rights.

April 22, 2007, 11:02 AM
Gun-Free School Zone act. Teachers and adminstrators should be allowed to carry guns. School children, being under 21 years of age, can't carry concealed anyway in most (all?) states.

April 22, 2007, 11:05 AM
The law that keeps the BATF between me and an SBS, or SBR. I dont want to have to do a bunch of paperwork and pay $200, just so I can have a shorter shotgun.

I think a good solution is that for SBS's/SBRs, is that you would have to go through the same paper work required when you legally purchase a handgun. Paying the $200 "tax" is rediculous. I think pistol permits are around $10-15. I see no point in the $200 tax, and all of the extra paperwork.

Prince Yamato
April 22, 2007, 01:35 PM
Just roll 'em back in order... lautenburg, import ban, NFA '86 and keep going. Just as the antis have to chip away at us incrementally, so to do we have to win back laws in small increments. The whole notion that by a sweep of pen all NFA laws will be gone overnight is not realistic. But little by little we can win the right to buy MAK-90s again (Or if we play our cards right they might be called... MAK-10s :D )

April 22, 2007, 11:02 PM

There is no such thing as a ban of suppressors. They are regulated just like machine guns, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, destructive devices and any other weapons (AOW).

April 22, 2007, 11:08 PM
There effectively is a ban on C3 in many localities, simply by denial of a CLEO signature. De facto, in a few places, when someone has applied and been rejected, they may be in for a rocky ride from there on out.

For those interested in "reforming" the bATFe :

April 22, 2007, 11:38 PM
Artificially limited supply of any product will raise prices to the point the market for said product will collapse. Yes, suppressors are regulated but the regulation raises the price to the point they may as well not exist.

Meanwhile our government spends insane amounts of money on Health issues yet here we engage in a sport where the federal government effectively mandates provisions hazardous to one's health.

Not a biggie in the scheme of things, but it sure is symptomatic.

April 22, 2007, 11:42 PM
FOPA AKA Firearms Owners Protection Act. It takes states rights away in the name of preventing gunowners from getting hassled when they transprot a firearm according to federal guidelines.

April 22, 2007, 11:49 PM
I would repeal the restrictions on supressors since they would make shooting far more comfortable especially at indoor ranges, have alot of uses in hunting and various other siturations.

Drop the no registering of new machineguns.

Throw out the ban on importing firearms that have a clear non sporting purpose that was thrown on us in 89.

Throw out the new restrictions banning the importation of many barrels that came into power last year.

April 23, 2007, 01:59 PM
Gun Free Zones, and the MG ban. I hate to say it guys but im ok with the NFA and FOPA and all that. However anything banning me from possessing what the constitution aknowledges is my god given right really pisses me off. Taxes? They suck but we dont bitch about the $1 something we pay per gallon in taxes and we dont somplain when we pay taxes on a new car. If you cant get your CLEO to sign your form 4 or form 1 set up a trust its easier anyway. All I want to do is be able to send off my Form 1 on my LMT 11.5" M4 and make it select fire. To do that now would require about $15,000-$20,000 that I dont have.

April 23, 2007, 02:05 PM
National: NFA '34, GCA '68, all federal laws that amend or modify these two (that covers about all of them...)

State (MO): PTA (underway), State ban on Suppressors.

April 23, 2007, 02:06 PM
I know, all 20,000

April 23, 2007, 10:14 PM

As a Canadian, with over 40 years of experience with gun law throughout the U.S.A. and Canada, it is my considered opinion that there is no gun law that is not "BAD." Some are somewhat less "BAD" than others, but that seems to mainly be a matter of whether they directly affect me or not.

Now that is "BAD."

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