M1A and /or a SOCOM ??


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10-Ring
April 22, 2007, 09:51 PM
I have an M1a and really like -- I'm still learning to shoot it properly, but I'm enjoying the process. I have recently fondled a SOCOM & I really like how it handles which has me wondering...
Would I miss the standard if I picked up the SOCOM in trade or do I really have to have both??? :scrutiny: :confused:

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byf43
April 22, 2007, 10:00 PM
...or do I really have to have both???



Please don't forget Commandment #12


"Thou shalt not trade one rifle for another, when The Rule of Two applies."

(The Rule of Two shows that if you REALLY like a particular rifle/cartridge combo, Two are always better than one.)


I would weigh the SOCOM vs. Scout/Squad Rifle, though. (Just my 2 worth.)

Thanks for reading.

Gator
April 22, 2007, 10:03 PM
I agree with byf43, check out an 18" Scout/Squad before you make a decision. The SOCOMs are very cool, but everything I have heard about accuracy leads me to think they are a 300 yd gun max. You give up very little accuracy with the Scout and it is a bit easier to handle than a full size M1A.

MassMark
April 22, 2007, 11:04 PM
I like the idea of a Scout as well, but at the same time LOVE my SOCOM-16. So I say: Go with thr Rule of 3! Break out the Visa.... ;)

Risasi
April 22, 2007, 11:37 PM
M1A Std or Scout Squad, the SOCOM is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, IMAO.
If I want a large bore CQB-300 yard gun I'll take a .50 Beowulf, thank you very much. And still have plenty of money left over for ammo and reloading equipment to boot.

IV Troop
April 22, 2007, 11:54 PM
I have in the past couple of years put a combined total of about 800 to a 1000 rounds through a few different SOCOMs. It is a nice handling rifle but the accuracy is poor to say the least as compared to the standard M1As. The one thing it has going for it (aside from compactness) is an excellent muzzle brake. Recoil is mild for a 308. Of course the trade off is that the muzzle brake makes it LOUD too.

I would definately go with a Scout before a Socom if I were in the market.

10-Ring
April 23, 2007, 12:35 AM
When I picked up my M1A, I was of the opinion there wasn't enough difference in length & the price difference was enough that the standard was an attractive choice but now that there is a SOCOM, I wonder if there is a better choice for my needs...
I've been told a few times that I really just need more trigger time. :rolleyes:

wayne in boca
April 23, 2007, 05:26 AM
You need all three.

funfaler
April 23, 2007, 09:38 AM
You see a lot of slighly used SOCOMs for sale on the boards, not as many Standards, even though there are thousands more Standards out there. I suspect there is a reason for that. In my handling of the SOCOM, I can see where it is not as pleasureable to shoot. Also, the sight radius is way too short for my tastes. I don't think that the SOCOM will allow you to do anything that you can't do with the Standard. My 2c (but that 2c is now worth @ 6c in copper ;)

nbkky71
April 23, 2007, 05:11 PM
I never was particularly impressed with the SOCOM... especially with the SOCOM II with the RIS on it. Springfield saw a niche that could be filled in the tacti-cool market and altered the M1A to fit. It may not be practical to have a M1A CQB-type rifle, but it sure is profitable for SA.

I've always been partial to the full-size M1A. I shot one for a number of years when I first got into NRA highpower, so perhaps I'm a little biased.

geekWithA.45
April 23, 2007, 07:56 PM
IMO, the scout squad, with a scout scope is an ideal setup of maximum versatility. You trade a little muzzle V for a lot of handiness.

IlikeSA
April 24, 2007, 06:18 AM
Anyone know what the muzzle energy and velocity loss between the Scout/Squad, M1A and the Socom 16 is?

jpcolt76
April 24, 2007, 07:24 AM
I had a SOCOM and was never impressed with the accuracy. My Saiga 308 shoots more accurately and reliably at less than a third the price.

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