Springfield M1A standard vs. scout-squad


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okiebuckout
April 22, 2007, 11:11 PM
I am familiar with the standard wood stock model, but have never had experience with the shorter scout-squad. How is the accuracy on the Scout rifle? If you had a choice to buy one or the other which one and why? It will kinda a SHTF rifle, but also I might just take it out hunting. That and I just want one,:neener: nothing wrong with that huh? Just thinking about saving for one of these, and i kinda lean towards the scout for the size, but have no experience with them. Mostly just wander about the accuracy difference, if any. Thanks

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mswestfall
April 22, 2007, 11:18 PM
IMHO the bbl and the action determine the accuracy of the rifle. The gun "fit" is specific to the shooter.

I have trouble with the length of pull with the M1 Garand. I believe I'd shoot a Garand better if it was longer; fit me better.

Just my opinion and I hope it helps...

MassMark
April 22, 2007, 11:33 PM
You will notice no real loss of accuracy in a Scout out to 500-yards. If you're looking for a 1,000-yard shooter - the Scout is not it. However in terms of length and handiness, the Scout wins hands down in my book. If I could only choose one, (I want all three), I would choose a Scout.

nwilliams
April 22, 2007, 11:34 PM
If I only had a dollar for everytime I mentioned my Scout on here:rolleyes:

I love my Scout Squad and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to reccomend it to anyone. I find the accuracy very good, as with any M1a, and everyone who has ever shot mine tells me how amazed they are. Now with all honesty the only range I go to on a regular basis is pretty short, I think 200yards max. Also I have the Leupold Scout scope mounted on it and it only a 2.8x28 (FX2) so I don't do a lot of long range with it anyway. If you want a long range rifle go with a different M1a, if you want a medium/short range rifle go with the Scout.

I say if you like how the Scout feels and you like how it looks then you will like the gun and it will make you happy:D I've had mine for several years now and it has been problem free for many hundreds of rounds, it holds a special place in my collection and I would never part with it.

Heres a pic of mine.

okiebuckout
April 24, 2007, 12:22 AM
After looking at your rifle I think i need some time to myself.:D I just need to save a few more bucks and then I will be able to afford one. Hope the GI Bill will cover this rifle along with school. Ah, screw it....Who needs text books anyways.:evil:

glockman19
April 24, 2007, 12:30 AM
My M1A looks exactly like the scout in your picture only the barrel is a little longer. My next purchase will be an AR-15, then another Springfield. I'm leaning towards another M1A loaded but have been looking at the SOCOM II & 16.

ReadyontheRight
April 24, 2007, 12:32 AM
The Scout is certainly a fine rifle. But will you ever want to shoot in competition? An AR15, Standard M1A or M1 Garand is a great basic rifle.

A Service Rifle might be a better investment to give yourself a challenge and enter a new world of high power rifle competition.

Makes you get out and shoot.

Anotherguy
April 24, 2007, 04:22 AM
nwilliams-nice scout. What accesory did you use to mount your Harris bipod? I've been looking for a short picatinny rail that will allow me to do the same but can't find it. Care to share?

stellarpod
April 24, 2007, 07:33 AM
Okiebuckout:

I experienced all the mixed emotions you referenced when trying to decide which M1A to buy. I finally settled on the Squad/Scout.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/365844/IMG_2615Resample33(2).jpg

It's been a blast to shoot. I bought a surplus fiberglass stock from Fred and painted it in a quasi-tigerstripe.

As much as I love this rifle I have to admit that there are times that I wish that I'd have opted for the full size version. Alas, I'll probably have both before it's over. :D

BTW - Where are you located? If you're here in the Oklahoma City area I'd be happy to let you cycle a few rounds out of the scout/squad.

stellarpod

geekWithA.45
April 24, 2007, 08:22 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=56699&stc=1&d=1176685894

Tough, accurate and reliable as heck.

This one shoots about 2 MOA when I do my part with plain ol' milsurp.

I'm also a fan of the fiberglass stock. It's a little lighter, and isn't sensitive to humidity, so your POI is more consistent.

The only downside to this particular one is the flake-o-matic paintjob on the stock, but I sorta like the "used" look, gives the rifle some character.

okiebuckout
April 24, 2007, 12:19 PM
You guys have some nice looking rifles. As some have refered to the ARs and such other guns, I already have an AR. I feel that my AR needs a good older brother to mentor after so this is one reason I need one.:p Also, I fell in love with my friends M1A and now I must aquire one. Hmm, competitive shooting. That has always called me a little in my heart. It probably wouldn't be feasible for me over the next couple years, but possibly after that. I am still leaning towards the Scout, but thats not a definative yes yet. Quick question; do the aftermarket stocks fit both rifles the same or is there a variance in the length and such? Right now the farthest my range has is 300yrds. Maybe in a few yrs they will put out a 500yrd, but I don't think it is in the works anytime soon. It sounds like I won't be disappointed in either, (why would I be). I just wish my VA checks would start rolling in now.:D Thanks again guys. Keep the pics coming.

okiebuckout
April 24, 2007, 12:35 PM
Stellar, I live in Broken Arrow. I get to the city just every now and then. I appreciate the offer. If I plan on coming up there, I might drop you a line.

possum
April 24, 2007, 01:15 PM
the only real experience i have had with the scouts is one in an erb stock which i didn't like that set up but the accuracy of the rifle was really good even out to 200yds, that is far as i could take it, the range ends there. i was impressed with it enough that i plan to add one to my collection asap!

Nomad, 2nd
April 24, 2007, 02:16 PM
I've shot all 3 lengths...

I'll take the Scout.

(But replace the comp with a flash supressor)

1KPerDay
April 24, 2007, 02:52 PM
I haven't shot all of them but I'll take the same on looks alone. The 18/18.5 inch barrel is perfect. sexy rife. And a walnut stock for me.

SSG Scott
June 13, 2007, 06:30 PM
I have been an Infantryman for more than 17 years now (currently on my 2nd deployment to the mid east) so I am no stranger to military weapon systems. The M14/M1A rifles have always been my favorite. I purchased a Scout Squad while I was home on leave recently, and I love it!!! I considered the Standard M1A and the SOCOM series. The SOCOM has to much decrease in range (for my tastes) and the rail system around the barrel of the SOCOM II makes it heavy.. :banghead: before you even add anything. The Scout is the perfect balance between Long Range Engagements and Close Quarters Engagements. Mounting a scope using the 3rd Gen M1A Scope mount will give you the ability to reach out and touch something effectively enough (you can hit a 300+ meter target with an M4, so reaching out to 500+ meters with a scoped scout isn't much of a problem). The 18 inch barrel along with a CCO (Close Combat Optic) such as an Aimpoint CompM3 or EOTech HWS mounted to the forward rail will give you quick, maneuverable and accurate .308 firepower in a close quarters situation. The question is this: Do you want this firearm because you just like to shoot? Or is it so you can defend your home and feed your family if Western Civilization Collapses? :cuss: Maybe the answer is Both? If you say both, then the Scout Squad is probably the best choice!! I recently ordered a new stock from Springfield Armory and had them install a QD Stud so I could attach my Harris Bipod. This costs $45.00. Or you can do it yourself. Also, if the rail systems of the SOCOM II appeal to you, you can attach single strips of rail to the stock of your Scout (1 on each side, and 1 on the bottom). This will give you the added ability of mounting tactical lights, Gangster Grips, Crimson Trace Laser Grips, PAQ 4's, Blah, Blah, Blah...whatever you want! I have seen pictures on various web sites and it looks high speed, in addition to being functional. I hope my rambling has benefited somebody! I can hardly wait to get out of this desert so I can sling some lead with my Scout Squad!!!!!!

PRazz
June 13, 2007, 07:14 PM
I want a scout squad....BAD!!!
When I was 16 my uncle loaned me his full size M1A for a couple months. There was nothing I didn't like about it. I was in love and carried that rifle everywhere, until I had to give it back. Anyway it's been on my wishlist for 15 years now. Rather than the full size I think I'm getting the scout squad. Same great look, action, reliability, etc....just a bit shorter and lighter. I'm only 5'7" 165lbs and the scout seems to fit my size better.

I like the forward mounted rail on the scout better too. If I ever scope it(highly unlikely) there will be nothing mounted over the bolt. Hell, the coolest thing about these rifles is watching the way the bolt cycles... who would want to cover that up?

hey okiebuckout, it'll all work out, think of it as an investment. My GI Bill pays my mortgage, but C'mon July...gimme that financial aid so I can buy an M1A...er, I mean books.

here's the setup I want, wood stock and all.

SSG Scott
June 13, 2007, 09:10 PM
I know I am new to this forum, but there is a lot of Scout Squad fans here. Maybe we should have a "Pimp My Scout Squad" Contest. Start off by each contestant having their picture taken holding the base model...(plain stock, no scope) ...then in January, submit photo's of the contestants holding their pimped out Scout's (and maybe some close ups of just the rifle). No prizes for winning, just bragging rights! I would suggest an earlier ending to the contest, but this whole War thing wouldn't let me really participate until the very start of next year. :banghead:

It could be fun...Any Takers???

Just so you know, there is absolutely NOTHING that says you HAVE to use your GI Bill payments for school. That money is for you to spend however you see fit while you are attending college. When I was working on my degree, I used my GI Bill payments to pay the rent and buy beer! As long as you are attending school, passing your classes, and have your tuition paid up, the VA doesn't care if you spend your GI Bill money on a Scout Squad or the Red Light District (or both)! That is your money to spend as you see fit! If you want to spend a payment or two on a Scout, DO IT!

Onmilo
June 14, 2007, 09:08 AM
Mine is a predecessor of the Scout Squad rifle know as a Bush rifle.
Same as the Scout Squad without the forward mounted optic hanger.

I prefer this rifle over my National Match and my standard M1A rifles.

It is more than acceptably accurate and a deer killer bar none.
http://www.fototime.com/511F2035EB26434/standard.jpg

SSG Scott
June 14, 2007, 09:43 AM
You know...now that you mention it, I now seem to remember hearing about the M1A Bush Rifle....I had forgotten about that until you mentioned it, although I have never seen one up until now. It looks as though the Muzzle Break is a bid different, but essentially the same rifle. You should consider replacing that beat up old stock with a synthetic one. All you have to do is call or email SA and they will hook you up! It looks as though the Scout Squad and the Bush Rifle have quite a following!

jamesb
June 14, 2007, 09:48 AM
I own a Standard M1A that I purchased to shoot in NRA High Power Service Rifle matches and love it. If you do not plan on shooting in service rifle matches and from your post you migth take it hunting, get the scout. You will not notice the accuracy differences until you get out past 500 yards. Both are a blast to shoot.

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