"Tube" red dot vs "tubeless" red dot (and eyeglasses)

[tbeb]

There are tube type red dots such as the Aimpoint, and tubeless type red dots such as the Eotech. I'm wondering if one type works better for one who wears eyeglasses. (Scope will be used with a scout scope mount.)

[benEzra]

Depends on what type of rifle you are using it with.

I have a Kobra collimator sight on my SAR-1; it's similar to an Eotech but works more on regular red dot principles (not holographic like the Eotech). I wear glasses and it works GREAT for me.

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[BigSoundRacing]

I have an EOTech mounted on my FN FS2000 and I wear glasses. It works really well. I like how no matter where my eye is in relation to the EOTech the holographic is there, bright, and very functional. Spent Saturday getting used to shooting with both eyes open, works great!

Be safe, BSR

[tbeb]

"Depends on what type of rifle you are using it with."

Rifle is a Yugo 59/66 SKS.

[benEzra]

With a scout-type setup, I would think both types would be equivalent. With an SKS, the tricky part is the mount.

If you go with an Ultimak rail or somesuch, you could pick up a cheap Wal-Mart dot for $30-ish and see how you like it, rather than dropping $400 on an Eotech.

[CWL]

Eotech will always be easier to use because of the large 'window' aperture over a tube.

Only problem I see is that the EoTech + mount costs way more than your SKS.

[tbeb]

Guys, I'm not buying an aimpoint or eotech. I used them as examples of the two types. For a type like the aimpoint I would go with a Bushnell or Millett or Tasco. For a type like an eotech, which is holographic, I would go with something like the Centurion Tactical. The Centurion is not a holographic but it is a tubeless type.

[Jenrick]

A red dot and a holographic site are two different beasts. A tubeless red dot, like the Trijicon Reflex is a third beastie.

Personally I say go for the holographic as a properly zero'd one will shoot POA/POI at zero'd range regardless of head position. The others will not.

-Jenrick

[Jeff White]

Jenrick, the aimpoint is also relatively parallex free. Head position doesn't matter.

I've used aimpoints for years. I've never even noticed the tube while shooting with both eyes open.

Jeff

[Jenrick]

Jeff I agree that at traditional CQB ranges, where red dot and reflex sights are expected to work, they are basically parallex free. However at long range they can begin to give the user trouble if they don't maintain consistent shooting form.

-Jenrick

PS BTW thanks for saying parallex, couldn't for the life of me get my brain to spit that out when I was trying to describe things.

[MrTuffPaws]

Yeah, the Kobras are parallax free up to 50 yards. After that, you should be using a cheek weld anyway.

[Jeff White]

Jenrick,
I've used the aimpoint out to 350 meters and never had a problem with parallex. Of course I've always used a good stockweld and position when shooting at that distance.

Jeff

[Vic303]

If you stick to older aimpoints such as a 3000, you can get them cheap on ebay--cheaper than a new Burris/Tasco, and they are REAL aimpoints, not clones.

My better half prefers the reflex type of sight. I like my aimpoint.

[300wmshtr]

I've got an older Aimpoint mounted on an AR and an Eotech mounted on a FAL. They both work well with glasses.
I find the EoTech to be a bit brighter and easier to pick up quickly.

[tbeb]

What is the diameter of the glass on the Kobra collimator sight?

[benEzra]

My guesstimate is about 30mm, but I don't have it handy to measure.

[DocPaladin]

What is a decent red dot for under $250?

[Matt Dillon]

a PK-AS

[Vic303]

A used older Aimpoint.

Or if you hunt around you can find some of the 511 Eotechs used for around 230-250$.

[JoeHatley]

What is a decent red dot for under $250?

UltraDot from www.larrysguns.com

Joe

[DocPaladin]

Thanks, Gents. Yesterday I received a PK-01 which was supposed to fit my rifle but the rings are for an AK. Also, the manual is in Russian so I don't knwo how to operate it or even what kind of batteries it uses. The Seller has nto been a lot of help so I think I'm going to return it and get something else.