LE marked AR-15?????????????????


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dasanii19
April 23, 2007, 11:28 AM
I have the choice to get either a Bushmaster AR-15 M4 a3 without the LE markings on it or one with LE markings on it for $100 more. Which would you choose and why?

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JesseL
April 23, 2007, 11:38 AM
I certainly wouldn't pay a $100 premium just to get LE markings on an otherwise identical rifle. Is there supposed to be some difference in the quality of the parts used in the LE marked rifles?

Baba Louie
April 23, 2007, 11:49 AM
If I buy the cheaper model I can spend the $100 difference on ammo or spare magazines.
I did go out late in '04 after the AWB sunset and purchase a Colt 6721 marked LE only. I suppose that 50 years after I'm dead and gone it might be an interesting variation worth a buck or two more to some collector. It doesn't fire any differently than an unmarked model tho'.

DMK
April 23, 2007, 12:17 PM
All other things equal, I'd buy the cheaper one.

I don't really care about markings, I only care how reliable it is and how it shoots.


$100 more for the same rifle? :scrutiny:

Sounds like someone is trying to make some quick money from the foolish with a gimmick. :rolleyes:

dasanii19
April 23, 2007, 12:32 PM
For the price considering the specs and markings and price which would you buy?


LE marked:

Item # RCWA3F-16M4-DCH

Mfg Bushmaster

Model E2S A3 M4 SOPMOD "DSC Exclusive"

Action: Semi-Automatic
Stock: 6-Position Telescoping Buttstock,Blk Pistol Grp
Receiver: Forward Assist Brass Deflector, LE/Govt Marked
Capacity: 30+1
# of Mags: 1
Safety: Manual Safety
Sights: A3 Sights
Barrel Length: 16" Chrome-Lined M4 Profile BBL
Overall Length: 32.5"
Weight: 6.7 lbs
Muzzlebreak: Birdcage Flash Suppressor
Add'l Features 1: A3 Removeable Carry Handle, 3 Long Rail Covers
Add'l Features 2: 4-Rail Free Floating Hand Guard, Bayonet Lug
Packaging: Black Hard Case

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Or...

Item # BCWA3F-16M4

Mfg Bushmaster

Model E2S A3 M4 Type Carbine

Action: Semi-Automatic
Stock: 6-Position Telescoping Buttstock
Receiver: Forward Assist Brass Deflector
Capacity: 30+1
# of Mags: 1
Safety: Manual Safety
Sights: Open Sights
Barrel Length: 16" Chrome-Lined M4 Profile BBL
Overall Length: 32.5"
Weight: 6.7 lbs
Muzzlebreak: Flash Suppressor
Add'l Features 1: A3 Removeable Carry Handle, Bayonet Lug,
Add'l Features 2: 1" Black Sling, Black Thermaplastic Pistol Grip
Packaging: Black Hard Case
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The first one is $1000 + tax (on sale) MSRP 1295.00
the second is $840+ tax (not on sale) MSRP 1230.00


For $160 more I would be paying for LE markings and a rail. Should I go for it?

RockyMtnTactical
April 23, 2007, 12:42 PM
What type of rail?

dasanii19
April 23, 2007, 12:49 PM
I dont know what kind of rail, but here are the pictures..


Rail

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/dasanii19/railrcwa3f-16m4-dch.jpg


No rail

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/dasanii19/norailBCWA3F-16M4.jpg

Browns Fan
April 23, 2007, 12:57 PM
Call me paranoid, but, wouldnt that be a perfect excuse for an LEO to confiscate it?

RockyMtnTactical
April 23, 2007, 01:32 PM
The real question is, what is a rail worth to you? Do you want to be able to mount a VFG, flash light, etc... with ease. Is the rail free floated? do you want/need the extra accuracy given by a free float?

Are they both in new condition? Is one nicer than the other, or less worn?

Honestly, if you want the best price/quality, you can get a better rifle for less than either of those.

dasanii19
April 23, 2007, 02:18 PM
What rifle is less money and better? Im in the market so I would like to hear.


Thanks

RockyMtnTactical
April 23, 2007, 02:59 PM
Stag Arms, you could do a Stag w/ a flat top for less than or right at $800.

Where at in Nevada are you? Vegas?

DMK
April 23, 2007, 03:00 PM
Looks like a YHM rail (http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/store/forearms.html). It's certainly worth $160 installed.

Really the only question is do you want a rail or not?

[my opinion]The rail will make your AR front heavy and what are you going to use it for?

I have one on one of my ARs and the only thing that gets attached to it is the rail covers. :rolleyes: [/my opinion]

RockyMtnTactical
April 23, 2007, 03:17 PM
Well, more people do HBAR's that add unneccessary weight. A rails is peanuts compared to that.

I don't care for the YHM rails specifically, a rail should be free floated, not only to increase accuracy but more importantly to increase the stability of the mounting platform.

DMK
April 23, 2007, 11:04 PM
Well, more people do HBAR's that add unneccessary weight. A rails is peanuts compared to that.True. But both of those Bushies are M4 profile. (And Bushmaster does a real M4 profile not that lame ripoff that some do where they only cut the groove in front of the sight. :rolleyes: )

I don't care for the YHM rails specifically, a rail should be free floated:confused: YHM makes free float rails. Mine is.

RockyMtnTactical
April 23, 2007, 11:32 PM
Oh, oops. It's been a while since I've handled a YHM rail, but I may have confused them with another brand...

gezzer
April 23, 2007, 11:55 PM
For the $100 bucks you will get a rifle with POTENTIAL collectable value VS a run of the mill. The LE marked was for a 10 year period in collector value 20 years from now it will be desirable. (if you are still allowed to have or sell it) It depends on your risk acceptability’s.

To me it is a couple weeks of lunches and beer. :D

Frog48
April 24, 2007, 03:14 AM
Despite being perfectly legal to own, by having an "LE Only" marked weapon you run the risk of being hassled by an ignorant/uninformed LEO.

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