1st and 2nd Ciener range reports


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PennsyPlinker
April 23, 2007, 12:40 PM
Yeah, there are two in a row. Yesterday afternoon, I got the thing all put together and it was off to the range with the AR/Ceiner conversion, plus a couple of other guns for Mrs. Plinker and our little Plinkette to shoot. The first attempt was an unmitigated disaster. I could not get rounds to feed no matter what I tried. I tried several different types of ammo, fiddled with adjustments, and all I could get it to do was mangle the bullet as I tried to get it into the chamber. :( :mad: :cuss: in that order.

I brought it home and pried the Ceiner adapter out of the AR with a screwdriver. At first I did not think it was going to budge, and then it popped all at once. I cleaned the rifle very vigorously, thinking it might have been residue from .223 rounds that was the problem. I put it all back together and rounds still would not feed. I fiddled with it some more, worked the slide back and forth about 1000 times, and then took it apart. It looked like there were some very small burrs on the feed ramp and the chamber edges. By this time I was tired, frustrated, and it was getting late in the evening, so I put it all away and went to bed.

This morning, since I am self employed, I asked for the morning off and got it. :p I disassembled the Ceiner adapter again, and took a felt wheel and some white diamond compound to the feed ramp and the chamber edge using a Dremel and a light touch. This time I got a couple of rounds to feed, even if they were a little tenative about going in. I sprayed it up real good with some lube and took off for the range again.

What a difference! :D I had a few reluctant rounds the first couple of magzines, but after those, it went bang as fast as I could pull the trigger. I had one failure to fire in the middle of the third mag, but I reinserted that round and it fired just fine. For some reason I think the hammer did not cock properly. But then...

I ran out of ammo. :fire: I had grabbed the wrong ammo can, the one without the 1000+ rounds of .22 in it. So, it was a short trip, but I need to get some real work done today anyway, or Mrs. Plinker will be using the thing on me. I did get over 100 rounds through it though, and it was running fine. Hopefully my Black Dog mags will be here soon and I can give it a real workout. Yesterday was pretty grim, but today made up for it and then some. Now if I can only get that tractor started...:scrutiny:

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jagdpanzer347
April 23, 2007, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the report Pennsy. I've been looking at picking up a Ciener kit myself.

-jagd

taliv
April 23, 2007, 01:29 PM
i dont' much remember seeing adjustments on my ceiner conversion

PennsyPlinker
April 23, 2007, 01:36 PM
i dont' much remember seeing adjustments on my ceiner conversion

Probably because there aren't any real adjustments. I wrote that as shorthand so I did not have to go into great detail about the charging handle, the forward assist, etc. Sorry for the confusion.

JP, I will write more after I get a lot more lead downrange, but right now it looks like it will be a lot of fun for very little money - compared of course, to the equivalent number of rounds expended in .223.

DMK
April 23, 2007, 03:11 PM
Cool! They are a ton of fun aren't they?

They do start out a little rough, but it will smooth up on you and will probably do it fairly quickly. I've never shot less than a brick through mine in a session and it's easy to go through three or four bricks when you're having fun! :)

PennsyPlinker
April 23, 2007, 08:37 PM
DMK, it was a blast! (so to speak) ;) I can hardly wait for the Black Dog mags to appear. Additionally, my 14 yr old daughter came up to me this evening and said, "Daddy, I need to go to the library tomorrow, and since the range just down the road, we could take the AR with the new .22 coversion in it so I could test it out too!" So, it looks like I will be there tomorrow too. That's not too hard to take.

DMK
April 23, 2007, 10:43 PM
"Daddy, I need to go to the library tomorrow, and since the range just down the road, we could take the AR with the new .22 coversion in it so I could test it out too!"

Start buying 22LR by the case. :)

swingset
April 23, 2007, 11:31 PM
Good deal, glad you got it worked out. Mine was rough from the outset, but once broken in it's a joy to shoot.

Even if they don't work, they're easy to tweak until they do.

okey0
April 25, 2007, 09:54 PM
the black do machine 30 round magazines are a great addition to this conversion:
http://www.blackdogmachinellc.net/

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