Anyone need a whole bunch of brass?


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fatelk
April 23, 2007, 02:07 PM
Someone could probably get a good deal on this auction for once-fired USGI brass.
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1194096&tid=GLSPPR5685

Perhaps a really big group buy?:D

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cheygriz
April 23, 2007, 02:11 PM
If the brass has been through a heated "popper" the temper has been drawn, and it is useless for reloading. It's scrap metal only.:( :(

hankdatank1362
April 23, 2007, 02:16 PM
no bids? last time I checked scrap brass was getting $7 per pound. Minimum bid $50? that's $336,000 dollars profit, less the initial $50 (if you win for that bid amount) I just have no way to transport 48,000 lbs of anything.

But then again, maybe I am thinking scrap copper and not brass. I'm half asleep.

Dave P
April 23, 2007, 02:16 PM
Why would they send thru a poper/popper (whatever that is?)? Why spend the time and energy?


A-hah - maybe to "POP" any unfired rounds?

hso
April 23, 2007, 02:31 PM
A-hah - maybe to "POP" any unfired rounds?

Yup

cheygriz
April 23, 2007, 02:35 PM
IIRC, the "poppers" were first required by Jimmie Karter, then shut down by
Reagan, then reopened by Klinton, then shut down:confused: :confused: by Bush.

The purpose was to "render the fired cases unsuitable for re-manufactruring into live ammunition."

Wes Janson
April 23, 2007, 02:53 PM
From discussions on the fifty forums, the military brass auctions generally contain use provisions that specify that all brass must be rendered unsuitable for reloading by the purchaser. Supposedly about 1 in 10 auctions don't have that requirement, for whatever reason. There ARE a few people or companies that buy it for resale to reloaders, but most of it seems to be bought up by scrap dealers.

Afy
April 23, 2007, 02:59 PM
There is still a lot of money to be made on that....

orionengnr
April 23, 2007, 03:03 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I read scrap brass was $1.20/lb.
Perhaps copper is $7.00/lb.

Still a good profit, but about 1/5 - 1/6 of the prior calculation.

Don't forget about shipping...

kellyj00
April 23, 2007, 03:08 PM
I wish taht hadn't been run through the "poper"... what a waste of formed brass.

That probably would have been enough to cover all of our shooting habits a few times over. Talk about a great group buy opportunity.

VARifleman
April 23, 2007, 03:30 PM
Copper is not up to 7 bucks a pound the last time I checked. Mabye up to around 3-4 now, but no 7. Brass is around a dollar or so like mentioned by orionengnr.

blackhawk2000
April 23, 2007, 07:02 PM
Last time I took back some copper wire, the bright was only going for $2.40-$2.50 a lb. My scrap guy is right across the street from Selfridge ANG base. SANG had some 55 gal drums filled with brass too. I'm sure he bid on it until it wasn't worth it for him anymore. Bidding didn't stay at $50.

myrockfight
April 23, 2007, 07:57 PM
What category of brass would it sell under? There is around 5 or six categories of it.

How does sending it through the popper make it unreloadable?

If the total wieght of the palettes are 20,000 lbs, I would assume half would actually be brass. Even if you only made a dollar a pound, you could do pretty well, right?

I have got to be missing something there though.

Winter Borne
April 23, 2007, 08:49 PM
From a friend of mine...

FYI, I am not sure this is the case with this lot, however, certain lot numbers require destruction, they are sold as scrap only even if you have another use for them. You don't get a choice. I think it starts around #6100, and this lot is above that. They don't tell you it has to be destroyed in the ad because they want you to bid high. It's in the fine print of the rules which you're "supposed to know". But they will send an inspector and if it's not destroyed it will be confiscated by govt agents, you will never be allowed to bid again, and you will not be refunded any money. You'll have to take them to court and I don;t think anyone has successfully done that.

mk

Seancass
April 23, 2007, 09:34 PM
48,000 lbs is a pretty penny worth of scrap. i was thinking about starting to pick up my own brass to recycle.

Wes Janson
April 23, 2007, 09:46 PM
As I understand it, being heated past a certain point (IIRC, above a sustained 700 degrees F) will soften the brass, and in the case head that will result in critical failures upon firing. Or at least, that's what I've read.

PPGMD
April 23, 2007, 09:48 PM
Hmm I looked at some of the other auctions, the local ones say "Certified Inert by the US Government" and "Mutilation not required."

Hmm I wonder if that means they went through the popper or not?

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