Uberti Single Action Cattleman


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MilsurpShooter
April 24, 2007, 11:19 AM
I'm in the process of obtaining my Pistol Permit, they haven't called me back with a court date yet. Anyhow, I'd browsed the web and a few shops looking for something to catch my eye. While my attention has usually been in the WWII Battle rifle area, the Looks of a Single Action revolver have always trumped them. All things equal I've been looking into the Uberti website and see two... Ok 4 handguns they have that I want. I've looked at the Vaquero's from Ruger, however there's something about that curve to the top strap that I don't care for, probably just me.

Either way, I was hoping some of you here have had dealings with Uberti and have shot them before, a general overview. I've read some reviews on here that would have my hair standing on end about certain companies so I don't want to run into that.

I just hope you guys can help me out... While I'm not a new member, think of me as new to the Revolver section lol

Thanks for any help.

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MrBorland
April 24, 2007, 11:34 AM
I love the look of them, too, and I shot a friends' at the range, which I enjoyed.

A note on the Uberti's, though, is that they are like the old SAs in that they give the "4 clicks" when you cock the hammer. I kinda like the authenticity of that, but they supposedly have a very bad safety bar design, so like the old SAs, only load it with 5 rounds, keeping the chamber under the hammer empty, to prevent discharge if the gun is dropped.

Is this for SD? There are probably much better choices besides a SA revolver.

MilsurpShooter
April 24, 2007, 12:11 PM
No, not for self defense, although for home defense it would probably be better then my old single shot Stevens 12 guage lol. It's pretty hard to get a carry permit in this county, apply for full carry, go to court, show cause that you need it, and 9 times out of 10 you still end up walking out with an ammended "Target/hunting/residence possession" permit. I'm going to try for it, but I'm not going to hold my breath. If I did have a choice on SD I'd go with some type of 38 snub nose most likely... Oops, de-railing my own thread lol

Thank you for the info MrBorland, the info on the four click brought me a small smile, hadn't even thought about it but I couldn't imagine having a revolver like this and not hearing that when the hammer was brought back. How did it feel in the hand? Recoil and the like?

klcmschlesinger
April 24, 2007, 12:37 PM
I have the Cattleman Millenium in 45 colt. I have around 1000 rounds through it and have enjoyed it immensely. Pretty accurate, easy to tame recoil, nice gun. I just had my first problem with it, a broken sear/bolt spring that I am waiting for a Wolff replacement. I didn't even contact Uberti to see about a replacement so I don't know what they would have done. But I firured, if the factory one I had broke, why put another one in there. I'll get a Wolff and feel better about it.
Don't let my problem discourage you from Uberti, I think the guns are made well, very authentic and I have had a blast with mine. If it has parts, eventually one will break. That is life.

News Shooter
April 24, 2007, 12:42 PM
This company importants them and does a nice job with fit and finish
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/

A little more expensive, but well worth it

MrBorland
April 24, 2007, 12:55 PM
My friend's Uberti is a .357, same as my 4" 686 DA/DA S&W. Using a standing 2-hand grip, it felt totally different. I want to say it felt like it begged to be shot 1-handed ("cowboy" style), but that's probably because the 2-handed grip felt so much different. I recall the distance from the grip to the trigger is shorter than my 686, as was the length of the grip. Recoil and muzzle blast was pretty much the same as my S&W; robust, but not overwhelming. Without a rear sight, though, I felt my aim was via the trial-and-error method. Even so, it was respectably accurate. His Uberti went back to Uberti for some kind of repair at one point, but when it came back, it had a 1lb trigger pull! I can testify it's incredibly sensitive. I highly doubt that's normal, though.

TallPine
April 24, 2007, 01:58 PM
Without a rear sight, though, I felt my aim was via the trial-and-error method.
The rear sight is the "hog wallow" groove in the topstrap ;)

MilsurpShooter
April 24, 2007, 02:20 PM
So no general horror stories with Uberti then? lol. I'll probably talk to the local gunshop guy and see what I have to do to get one of these. Thinking the Old Model (Short front sight and screw cylinder retainer) in .45 Colt... Though the .44-70 has piqued my curiosity... It'll give me something to reload for too other then my mosin and mauser

dogngun
April 25, 2007, 07:12 AM
Uberti's are favored by many Cowboy Action shooters,and they are noted for taking a lot of use with little ill effect. They are very well made, materials are excellent, workmanship great.
In the 1970's, when Colt re-issued their black powder revolvers, the parts for the "Colt" re-issue guns were made by Uberti.
They are high-quality, accurate SAA copies, no safety features...load only 5 rounds.
I recommend you check out the Sixguns web site before you buy.

www.sixguns.com

Good luck with your permit.
Mark

Jim March
April 25, 2007, 12:03 PM
Only Uberti complaint I've heard is that it can be a good idea to swap springs for higher-quality US-source, like Wolff. But that's cheap. And it may not be necessary anymore; Uberti QC has been on the upswing of late.

MilsurpShooter
April 25, 2007, 12:14 PM
Everyone, I'd just like to say thanks for all your help. My minds made up that one of these revolvers will be my first handgun purchase... Now I just have to figure out which finish I want :o lol

Deanimator
April 25, 2007, 05:13 PM
I kinda like the authenticity of that, but they supposedly have a very bad safety bar design, so like the old SAs, only load it with 5 rounds, keeping the chamber under the hammer empty, to prevent discharge if the gun is dropped.
Not "bad", NONEXISTENT. It's a pretty reasonable fascimile of the Colt SAA, down to the "bullseye" ejector rod button, if that's what you want. The Colt doesn't have a transfer bar, and neither do the Ubertis.

A while ago I was considering a Cimarron 7 1/2" in .44 Special. Several people tried to talk me out of it because of the lack of a transfer bar, but that was irrelevant to me. I wanted it just for amusement, not carry, and I've got no interest in cowboy action shooting. I'm more interested in authenticity, something sorely lacking in the Vaquero and Stampede. I ended up buying a zoom lens and a flash for my digital SLR instead, but I'll probably buy one of the Cimarron's some time in the coming year. They have a good reputation.

sanglant
April 25, 2007, 05:39 PM
Deanimator,

just so you know the Cimarron has the transfer bar safety see http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Manuals-Forms/PDFs/SA-InstMan.pdf :o

james

Jim March
April 25, 2007, 07:25 PM
It does NOT have a transfer bar. It has a relatively crude hammer block.

A good hammer block as used in post-WW2 S&Ws for example is as safe as a transfer bar. A number of authorities I trust say the Uberti SA hammer block isn't adequate for six-up carry the way a Ruger or the Beretta Stampedes can be.

Uberti six-shooters are not safe except carried five-up.

ArchAngelCD
April 25, 2007, 08:17 PM
Navy Arms makes some nice replicas too, you might want to take a look. http://www.navyarms.com/

MilsurpShooter
April 26, 2007, 02:28 PM
Thanks again everyone, looks like I'm gonna need to step up and get this thing quickly with the things they're trying to pass in NY... Don't think that safety will cut it with the new bill

eliphalet
April 26, 2007, 04:30 PM
Have you looked at the Ruger's new Vaquero's? That would be my choice if it was my money.

Sniper X
April 26, 2007, 06:32 PM
I have the perfect carry Cattleman IMHO! Here's a pic. It is a .45colt. Standard grade basic black, and shoots perfectly reliably, and very accurate. I would not hesitate to carry it CCW if I could find good leather.

mavracer
April 26, 2007, 09:07 PM
Navy Arms makes some nice replicas too.
acually navy arms imports ubertis.
+1 cimarrons are the best of the importers as they do action jobs. I have both and my uberti took a little work to get as smooth as my cimarron.the millenium uberti i held had very rough action.
SNIPERX try www.mernickleholsters.com

sanglant
April 25, 2008, 08:31 AM
sorry to bump this, but i just found it again and wanted to apologize for the misinformation :o

james

Virginian
April 25, 2008, 02:24 PM
I have two Cimarrons and like them. That safety is not a transfer bar safety like Ruger employs, it is different; the firing pin is still on the hammer.
With any of the clones get a set of Wolff springs and eliminate all the flat springs (in a Cimarron) except the mainspring.

Tim L
April 25, 2008, 06:28 PM
The .45 caliber Uberti Cattleman model is available with both the .45ACP and .45 COLT cylinders. Just remember with the Uberti only use cowboy or standard pressure loads. The Ubertis are very similar to the original SAAs and are not able to contain the Ruger only loads.

Tim

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