.224 bullets at Midway


April 24, 2007, 02:00 PM
I just placed an order for some Sierra bullets at Midway and commented to the lady about so many .224 bullets becoming on "No Backorder". She said it was due to the war and did not look for the situation to be better. Byron

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April 24, 2007, 03:16 PM
That may be some of it but I can't believe that it is all of it. The military uses FMJ so where are all the PSP and hollow point bullets and let's not forget all the used brass because we know the military doesn't use reloads.

April 24, 2007, 03:26 PM
Well you see, all the used brass is on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as a large deposit of copper jackets...lol. Actually, from what I understand, it is not that we are using 55gr FMJ or whatever soft point this or that, etc but rather the fact that the raw materials that are used to make those bullets are being redirected to the production of the bullets we are using over there. Honestly, it makes sense to me.

As for things like the alleged primer shortage what I was hearing is that, for the Winchester primers at least, they moved their production to a new facility and stopped production in the older facility before starting up the new one so there was a short supply issue. That being the case, people that could not find their preferred primers bought other primers and since those were not selling as briskly as the Winchesters they were not ordered in the same quantities and ended up running out while Winchester was getting their new factory going. Take that one with a grain of salt but both answers make perfect sense to me.

April 24, 2007, 04:24 PM

I didn't even mention the availability of primmers which I think is also B. I have heard the war effort, that countries like China and Korea are buying up all the material. That may explain the price but not the lack of availability, I mean come on manufactures will pay more for the raw material but they will still be available they will just pass the cost on to their consumer like the oil industry. :fire: Between the cost and availably of components and the rising cost of gas I am feeling screwed, blued and tattooed these days!:cuss:

April 24, 2007, 04:58 PM
yup and it su*ks

April 24, 2007, 08:59 PM
There does not seem to be a lack of brass or bullets on ebay. I've picked up 2k .223 cases and 3k 55gr FMJ bullets. Primers, that's different story. For what it is worth, I talked with a local shop owner his Federal primer order will not be filled for 6 months. I'm not sure of all the details, but that was his story. Appearently, Federal is tooled up to make ammo and are using up the primers for loaded ammo. Again, this is hearsay, but it does kind of make sense.

April 24, 2007, 10:44 PM
A lot of the bullet machines that could be making 55FMJ, 55PSP, or 0.224 whatever are quite busy making 62gr SS109 bullets for military resupply. There are .224 bullets available, just not so much of the cheap plinking stuff that many seem addicted to.

I've heard from enough credible sources that I believe all federal primers are going into federal ammo and that federal ammo plants are running 3 shifts 6 or 7 days a week.

Other brand primers are available via mail order with no problem to most places. Lots are stockpiling components due to political concerns and expected price inflation.

April 24, 2007, 11:49 PM
I heard that Elvis is alive. Just because you hear something doesn't make it fact. There are a few factors that is causing the shortage, so don't think it's just one event.

I have been buying bullets from MidwayUSA all of last year, preparing for the higher prices. You will just have to keep on checking on their site. Don't even think about using their "will be in stock date" because it's always pushed back further. If you do manage to order some...look for the bulk offerings because Midway will throw in the shipping for "free."

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