Full Size Revolver: .357 or .44?


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GTSteve03
April 24, 2007, 11:46 PM
I'm debating on my next revolver purchase and I need some suggestions. Right now I own a Ruger SP101 .357 w/ 3" barrel. I love this pistol, and I plan on making it my primary car/carry piece.

What I'm trying to decide on next is a full-size revolver for home defense. Right now I'm trying to decide between a GP-100 in .357 or the new Redhawk in .44 Mag, both with 4" barrels. I want a heavier, full frame size gun that I don't have to worry about carrying or concealing for home defense that will also be a little easier to shoot at the range thanks to the increased weight.

I've never shot a .44 before, so I'm not sure about recoil. I would be reloading and more than likely keep it stoked with something more in the .44 Special velocity range for home defense. I could always load it up with hot Magnums for when I might venture out into the woods.

Or, I could just buy a larger size of my carry piece, have the same ammo compatibility, and get slightly better performance from the longer barrel. I guess my main question is whether or not I should stick with a .357 for home defense or go for the bigger hole provided by a .44.

Please give me your comments! :confused:

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ArmedBear
April 24, 2007, 11:52 PM
With a Glock 21 and an SP101, I'd be thinking more of a fun gun than a HD gun. You're covered.

Are you sure you want a double action?:)

Quoheleth
April 25, 2007, 12:03 AM
Get a GP 100 6" - blue or stainless. It's a blast (literally & figuratively!) to shoot. Since you know .357, use what you know. The GP100 is a rock-solid frame, the 6" barrel will give a longer sight radius and (theoretically) better accuracy, and will suit you well at the range or in the field or for HD.

My $.02...

Preacher Man

22-rimfire
April 25, 2007, 12:18 AM
You know 357's. You seem to have an interest in a larger bore caliber, so I would go for the 4" Redhawk 44 if the 4" is for you. They have been getting rave reviews. With the interest, eventually, you are going to get a 44, so why not now? The negatives are you want a range gun and I would suspect you won't shoot the 44 as much as you think due to the recoil. If you go with the 44, consider the 5.5" Redhawk or a 6.5" Smith 629 for general shooting. The larger sight radius and weight will probably help you shoot better in this larger caliber. You will notice a big difference between the 357 and 44 mag in terms of recoil. But until you take the 44 plunge, you really won't experience it.

GTSteve03
April 25, 2007, 12:24 AM
With a Glock 21 and an SP101, I'd be thinking more of a fun gun than a HD gun. You're covered.

Are you sure you want a double action?
As much as I like the Glock 21 and the .45ACP caliber, the auto-chuckers just don't have a soul to me. I'm probably going to sell it to fund my revolver purchase. That's one of the reasons I was looking at a bigger-bore to replace the .45.

Now, I had originally written off single actions as not being useful except for cowboy shooting or hunting, neither of which I do a whole lot. However, a stainless Blackhawk in .45 Colt really has me drooling. Argh! :o

ugaarguy
April 25, 2007, 01:19 AM
How about a S&W 25 or 625 in 45 ACP? A Blackhawk 45 Colt / 45 ACP convertible would certainly be fun as well.

ArchAngelCD
April 25, 2007, 01:24 AM
Since this revolver is for Home Defense then I'll vote for the .357. You really don't want to fire off a .44 Magnum in a dark inclosed room in the middle of the night. Even a .44 Special will be too much but a .38 Special won't make you blind or deaf.

earplug
April 25, 2007, 01:41 AM
625. I own several S&W revolvers. M29 M65 625 and J frames.
For your stated wants and needs A 625 in .45 ACP would be very fine.
Mine is a four inch.

ArchAngelCD
April 25, 2007, 02:15 AM
Why do you people do that????

Question: Which one.... A .357 Magnum or a .44 Magnum???

Answer: Get a .45 Cal. !!!!

Really, why do you do that???
A question was asked, why can't you answer the question instead of changing the answer to something you decide he needs? For once I would like to see a thread where all the answers are in line.

glockman19
April 25, 2007, 03:02 AM
Taking everything into consideration you'll probably be better served by the .357. I like both the Rugers. GP & SP. I'd however choose a S&W 586/686. JMHO.

rkh
April 25, 2007, 03:21 AM
Try shooting a box of full-house loads out of each of the revolvers you're considering.

A hot .357 is about the upper limit of what I can comfortably control in a typical carry piece. Resist the urge to be Dirty Harry, or run the risk of purchasing a gun that never gets shot because it's painful to operate.

ugaarguy
April 25, 2007, 03:47 AM
ArchAngelCD, you said:
Why do you people do that????

Question: Which one.... A .357 Magnum or a .44 Magnum???

Answer: Get a .45 Cal. !!!!

Really, why do you do that???
A question was asked, why can't you answer the question instead of changing the answer to something you decide he needs? For once I would like to see a thread where all the answers are in line.

Well, you see GTSteve03 ended his post with:
Please give me your comments!
Then, ArmedBear made an open ended suggestion of:
With a Glock 21 and an SP101, I'd be thinking more of a fun gun than a HD gun. You're covered.

Are you sure you want a double action?
GTSteve03 responded by quoting Armed bear and adding:
As much as I like the Glock 21 and the .45ACP caliber, the auto-chuckers just don't have a soul to me. I'm probably going to sell it to fund my revolver purchase. That's one of the reasons I was looking at a bigger-bore to replace the .45.

Now, I had originally written off single actions as not being useful except for cowboy shooting or hunting, neither of which I do a whole lot. However, a stainless Blackhawk in .45 Colt really has me drooling. Argh!

You see I simply responded to the original poster's next comment by adding another bigbore DA revolver choice to consider; and suggesting the versatility of a factory supplied second cylinder to a gun he specifically expressed an affinity for.

ArchAngel, I often skip over some posts myself and think a thread may be veering off topic. However, please read all the posts - particularly additional ones by the OP - before accusing folks of making answers that aren't in line.

ArchAngelCD
April 25, 2007, 05:24 AM
ugaarguy,
IMHO, when he said, "Please give me your comments" I'm almost sure he wanted comments on what he said in his post, not on every caliber in the book. Nowhere in his post did he ask if he should choose a different caliber, only which of the 2 he spoke about should be chosen.

This thread may have a loophole if you want to take that statement literally instead of how its written, but you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Run&Shoot
April 25, 2007, 05:48 AM
If you want to be totally practical then get the GP100. But I suspect since you reload you are looking for something a bit more interesting.

Definitely get the 4" Redhawk .44! I had a customized 4" RH years ago and kick myself all the time for trading it away. A mild loaded .44 magnum, like a 240 gr. at 1000 fps would be fun to shoot and about ideal for home defense. And sometime when you get the hankering you can load up full house magnums and enjoy a 3 ft muzzle blast.

You will not regret getting the Redhawk. :D

Stainz
April 25, 2007, 08:12 AM
I'll hold the standard high for a 4" 629. Mine was days old when I got it last April - and really is a step-up for me from the neat 629 Mountain Gun I had. It weighs 5.5oz less than the 4" RH - and will outlast you with SAAMI-spec'd .44 Magnums. If you like 'pushing the envelope', perhaps the RH is a better choice. Not here, as I had a 5.5" SS .45 RH for years - it was not up to the quality level or trigger slickness of my 4" 625MG's in .45 Colt, and I finally sold it. The RH's are fine firearms, when you move from Ruger SA's to a DA, but S&W's are slicker, for sure. Since I never load near max SAAMI pec's for a round, I expect a long life of my 629's.

The 4" 629 (SKU#163603 MSRP $869) 'points' extremely well. Oddly, so does it's sibling here, the 6" (SKU #163606 MSRP $869), which still weighs 1.5 oz less than that 4" RH. Both are fitted here with the excellent Hogue .500 Magnum grips - great recoil help and fit/feel - available from S&W Accessories for $35. That 6" is a great feeling (and looking... I like partial lugs!) 'grab' - and the long sight radius makes you a better shot, too.

I made a range trip Monday - with a 5" h-l 686+ and my 4" 629. I was 'plinking' with 158gr LSWC and RN homebrews in .38 Special cases from that 686+ - really fun. Of course, the wimpy .44 Russians to midrange .44 Specials were even more fun - there is something about a 240gr LSWC trying to break 700 fps from a .44 Russian case - or the same lead nearing 800 fps from a .44 Special case. Really fun. Whacks the poop out of rebounding and stationary steel plates. At home, I have an Airweight 2.5" 5-shot hammerless .44 Special, a S&W 296, stoked with 200gr Gold Dots (805 fps) for protection, but that 4" 629 with those Gold Dots, which make 840-860 fps from it, would be nearly perfect, too - certainly a good bit easier to shoot follow-ups from. My 'hottest' loads are 300gr LSWC's making ~900 fps... I am not a 'real' .44 Magnum enthusiast, having had my big boom fun with a .454 SRH years ago.

If you decide on a .357M, consider the S&W 620 - the 4" 686+ frame/cylinder with a short lug - a la the 66 it replaced. That 7-shooter, SKU #164401 MSRP $751, points quite well - deserves some proper Ahrends wood grips... and is on my 'short list'. Of course, if you have a stash of .45 ACP's left over from that G21, consider the feature laden 4" .45 ACP/AR 625JM, SKU 160936 MSRP $909, a true big bore that is frugal and mild. You can load mild plate pingers to real .45 Colt-ish loads - even in the rimmed .45 AR cases. It's so much fun, I don't even mind that full lug!

The big thing here is to get something YOU like - and want to shoot. That SP101 can be a great CCW - but only the 4" .22 & .32 versions are really decent 'plinkers'. I'd get my next revolver for 'fun'!

Stainz

wldmn13
April 25, 2007, 08:37 AM
I don't consider myself recoil sensitive, but my 44 magnum kicks my butt.

It hurt the first few times I shot it. I am making myself get used to it, but it is right out for a home defense gun at this point.

Z_Infidel
April 25, 2007, 10:17 AM
If my choices for a home defense revolver were limited to the GP100 and Redhawk (both nice guns BTW) I would opt for the GP100 and load it with good .38 Special defense ammo. For packing around in potentially dangerous country I would choose the Redhawk.

ronto
April 25, 2007, 10:34 AM
I see nothing wrong with the SP101 that you have now and it would do for HD. For the ultimate HD weapon...Get a pump shotgun.
I don't think you need a 44Mag flash-banger for HD.

Deanimator
April 25, 2007, 10:37 AM
I've got a 4" S&W Model 29-2. With reasonable .44 Special loads, it's very controllable and easily shot, even with magna grips. With Winchester 240gr. white box from Walmart, it's BRUTAL, even with Pachmayrs!

In terms of versatility, I'd look for a S&W Model 28. They're still reasonably priced when you can find them. When I was looking for a 6" Model 27-2, I saw Model 28s everywhere. The .357 Model 28 is a lot less expensive to shoot than the .44 Magnum, especially if you handload. I don't have a 28, but they're virtually the same gun as the 27s that I have. They're the Impala to the 27's Caprice Classic.

Deanimator
April 25, 2007, 10:39 AM
I don't consider myself recoil sensitive, but my 44 magnum kicks my butt.

It hurt the first few times I shot it. I am making myself get used to it, but it is right out for a home defense gun at this point.
Try the CCI and Federal .44 Special defense loads. It's what I have for my 4" Model 29-2.

sansone
April 25, 2007, 10:43 AM
that's an easy one, .357 // 44 can be expensive and kick like a mule

azredhawk44
April 25, 2007, 10:44 AM
I agree with the "soul-less" lack of fun and charisma that the Glock 21 is privvy to. It was my first gun, and I wish that my first gun was my Redhawk 5.5". There is a gun that I will never get rid of.

You've got good taste, by the way.

If you want a wheelie for indoor defense, I'd suggest the 44 platform and loading it with hollowpoint specials. The magnums will burst your eardrums, inside without hearing protection.

I own a 3" sp101 as well as a pair of redhawks... 4" stainless and 5.5" blued. I am considering getting rid of the sp101 just because it doesn't really fill a niche for me. If I carry around in town, I carry my Sig GSR 1911. 1911's are not soul-less to me... I really like them a lot. If I'm out of town carrying, it's one of the redhawks depending on if I'm hunting (5.5") or just outdoors (4").

My Sig:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/azredhawk44/P1010038.jpg
My SP101:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/azredhawk44/IMG_0928.jpg
My 4" Redhawk:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/azredhawk44/IMG_0939.jpg
My 5.5" Redhawk:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/azredhawk44/IMG_0934.jpg

DogBonz
April 25, 2007, 11:06 AM
For a number of reasons:

1. Everyone should own a 4 357 revolver
2. For HD/ SD, very few handgun rounds (controllable with fast follow up shots) can beat a hot 125 .357
3. Ammo compatibility.
4. You live in GA. Now, I may be misinformed, but there are no big bears in GA, right? What is the most dangerous predator in GA? The 2 legged kind?
5. 38/357 is cheaper to shoot than 44sp/44mag
6. If you like your ruger, you can get the bigger version and have a very familiar platform. Also, the GP100

Eightball
April 25, 2007, 05:55 PM
4" just screams .357 to me--my 4" .357 is a dream to shoot, but if I was going to get a .44, I wouldn't get anything below a 5.5, and download it for the "not exploding your ears" reason--that way, it's more fun for reasons OTHER than HD when you can fully load that puppy, but very capable for HD.

GTSteve03
April 25, 2007, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by: azredhawk44
You've got good taste, by the way.
Thanks. :cool: Your posts showing off your new 4" Redhawk is what has really gotten me lusting after one myself. I see we share similar taste in handguns, while I do respect the 1911 I don't know if I am ready to take on the tweaking necessary to get one running 100%. If I do, I will probably go for a Smith & Wesson 1911, I hear they've gotten rave reviews.

I'm really surprised by the overwhelming victory that the .357 is getting so far. It does make more sense I think to start out with a similar caliber, and no we don't have any big bears here in GA, DogBonz so I don't really have to worry about that.

And no one has to feel out of place by suggesting another caliber besides what was posted on the poll. Granted, I didn't leave a 3rd option for "None of the above" but I don't mind getting advice from people with more experience than myself.

kludge
April 25, 2007, 08:47 PM
Since you said "home defense" I voted .357.

Common caliber to your carry piece.

obxned
April 25, 2007, 09:11 PM
Both!

ravencon
April 25, 2007, 09:12 PM
This seems to be the minority viewpoint but I'd go with the .44 magnum Blackhawk. Load it with .44 Special for HD and you'll still have the magnum option for hunting and blasting fun.

To me the .357 is just a .38 with delusions of grandeur ;)

Black Knight
April 25, 2007, 09:17 PM
I believe that the 4 inch .357 would be your best choice. You already are used to the 3 inch version, and you currently have the ammo for it. Tactically speaking this is what I would go for and why.

george29
April 26, 2007, 02:07 AM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/avisamuel/trackerinhand.jpg
(Gunstore owner photographed it in his hand)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/avisamuel/230830.jpg
(In my hand)


Ever consider this .44 magnum? 2.5" bb; and it eats any load you can handle, it is my primary ccw and it sleeps next to cousin Moss (never send a boy to do a mans work) for home defense. Carry fodder is usually a special load and it's recoil is no worse than a .357

I personally don't own anything other than 44's, 22's and 12's

cajun47
April 26, 2007, 02:39 AM
im getting a .44 mag. so i vote .44 mag. i had a s&w .44 mag long ago with 7" barrel(?). it kicked. felt great actually. it did hurt a little bit when i shot it one handed, i wouldn't say painful.

i looked up reloading and from what i gathered it doesn't cost a whole lot more to reload .44mag over a 9mm. i didn't look up the price of brass though.

Stainz
April 26, 2007, 07:33 AM
Since you said you reload, I'll break down the cost differences, using my loads of 3.5gr Titegroup under a 158gr LSWC .38 bullet plinker vs a 240gr LSWC over 5.5gr LSWC in .44 Magnum cases. Assuming the cases are already yours, the primers cost the same, and you have decided on these loads, you would spend an additional half cent or so per round for powder and three cents per round more for the bigger and more massive bullet (I used Meister Bullets direct cost inc s/h). Yeah, it's worth the difference... around four bucks total per fifty reloaded vs five-sixty. I was assuming 'my' reloads - I use 5.5gr/.44 Magnum case under that 240gr LSWC for a 4" mv in the 800's - all day plinker rounds - 4.5gr/.44 Special case for 770 fps, and 3.5 gr/.44 Russian case for just under 700 fps, all from a 4" 629. They are 'fun' - worth the few pennies more - and you can always go 'nuclear' with 'real' .44 Magnums, just clean the chambers well after the shorter cases.

Stainz

mavracer
April 26, 2007, 09:50 PM
I voted 357 just generally more accepted home defense caliber.and very versitile. but a 4" redhawk would be cool too,I have a 7 1/2" redhawk and a
4" taurus tracker and love a 44mag .aw what the heck get both:evil: .ps I have shot the speer GD short bbl. load. just a little more than 44 spcl+p, 200 grn at 1100 fps and they double for shot glasses:what:

tinygnat219
April 26, 2007, 09:54 PM
The .357 Revolver is so versatile and effective, I consider the .44 Magnum more of a hobby gun and not something to carry.

Cosmoline
April 26, 2007, 10:03 PM
You know what the old man would say about that "hobby gun" reference.

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ammunition/GAfifty_101105D.jpg

ArchAngelCD
April 26, 2007, 10:15 PM
The .357 Revolver is so versatile and effective, I consider the .44 Magnum more of a hobby gun and not something to carry.
The author of this thread was asking about a full size revolver for Home Defense, not a carry gun. Nothing wrong with a .44, even for carry, but that's not what was asked in this thread.

koja48
April 26, 2007, 11:02 PM
Since home defense is a consideration, voted .357 (which will still light-up a dark room sufficiently). Easier to control & shoot than the .44.

Confederate
April 27, 2007, 12:09 AM
Using a .44mag horse pistol like the Redhawk for a home defense gun is like buying a snow plough for weekend drives! Go with a decent mid-frame .357.

kjeff50cal
April 27, 2007, 12:32 AM
I say find a good used LEO turn-in .357. They can be had in 4" (more common) or 6". My S&W 28-2 Highway Patrolman sports a 6" barrel and shoots better than I can hold off hand (so more practice and more reloading;) )

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57208&stc=1&d=1177644664

denfoote
April 27, 2007, 01:16 AM
There is nothing in the universe that compares to owning a classic N-Frame Smith .357mag!!!

S&Wfan
April 27, 2007, 02:15 AM
Probably like a whole lot of people on this forum, I've owned just about every caliber S&W N frame around.

For home defense between the two calibers mentioned, I'd prefer a Model 27/627 or 28 in .357 over a Model 29/629.

If I used a 29 or 629 for home defense, it would be loaded down to a mild .44 spl. load to reduce that dreadful penetration of multiple walls that could kill someone I love.

However, my favorite defensive round in a revolver is the .45ACP. I keep many, many, many of the cheap little moonclips stoked with 230 grain Federal Hydrashok for my .45ACP revolvers. I can actually reload my big N frame just as fast as my 1911 autos, and the recoil of a .45ACP is much more pleasant of a firm PUSH vs. the sting of the .357 or hard sting of the .44mag.
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/246/246167/folders/183771/186049925-2.jpg

Thus, my vote would be for a Model 625 with a 3-4" barrel, since I'm not willing to part with my custom Model 25-2 with it's 6" barrel chopped to 3 1/4." It is my favorite handgun, period!



For hunting? Well, that's another subject altogether.

Barr
April 27, 2007, 02:25 AM
The .44 is a great caliber with a lot of flexibility. It can be pressed into the home defense role if needed. The .357 is a much better "fighting caliber" against 2 legged critters though. The .44 has very impressive power, but the noise and recoil expecially indoors would be excessive. Also, the .44 would have excessive penetration in an urban environment. In this day and age, a lawyer for an injury lawsuit can wreak havoc with your finances and mental well being if they can bring a suit to court on behalf of a neighbor or passerby that can prove a bullet left the confines of your house etc.

ArchAngelCD
April 27, 2007, 02:49 AM
S&Wfan,
VERY nice revolver.... I wish I started shooting before my 50th birthday. I missed out on all the outstanding revolvers made over the years. I am stuck buying MIM parts and locks if I want a new revolver. I'm glad there is a used market and it's not all dried up just yet. (although, there aren't very many nice revolvers floating around where I live)

slow944
April 27, 2007, 01:25 PM
I voted for the 44Mag. I have a 6" Python and a 4" S&W M66-2 in 357. I also have a RedHawk 5.5". To me the 357 has a louder "Crack" to it than my 44Mag does. When ever I shoot both at the range people are always asking me about the 357's being loud. But as usual YMMV.

Gustav
April 27, 2007, 02:26 PM
My first handgun was a 4 inch Ruger Security Six which I wore almost all of the blue off before I traded it away.
My second handgun was a 6 inch S&W 629 both of these I shot extensively as I handloaded for both.
Try a .44 magnum out before you buy one its recoil over prolonged firing strings can be stout to say the least, some people find it objectionable others actually enjoy it:evil:
The .357 is a good mid range or mid bore cartridge (.36 caliber to .40) it shoots flat and hits fairly hard and is rated quite well with the right bullet weight in stopping power surveys taken from actual street gunfights over the years.
The .44 is more expensiuve to shoot it kicks allot more so if recoil bothers you one can load it with .44 specials or use reduced power handloads.
If deer and two legged varmits are all you are concerned with the .357 will do what needs to be done.
Out here in the West though I personally prefer my .44 for most things old Elmer Keith had it right big hole in big hole out lots of blood out, easier to track.
Evaluate what YOUR needs are and choose accordingly with the .357 you share calibers and now have two defensive pistols.
The .44 is heavier to carry and is more expensive to buy factory ammunition for and more expensive to reload for as well.
I have had a couple Rugers they are built like tanks the Redhawk is solid design built like a heavy sledge hammer. I only wish mine were as accurate as my Smiths.
In double action revolvers I tend to favor the lighter N frame Smith & Wessons.
Out here in the West I prefer the .44 but thats because I do not want to get charged by an angry moose (again) or take a second or even third shot if hunting animals bigger than deer.:cuss:
YMMV
Best of luck:)

Stainz
April 27, 2007, 05:04 PM
I regret that I don't have a decent copy stand set up for such pix, but here are my two 629-6's - both bought new. Both broke in well, and sport the reduced power Wolff springs as well as the Hogue .500 Magnum grips for some significant recoil absorption. Bot share duties with .44 Russians, Specials, and my somewhat mild Magnums. There is no requirement that a 29/629 .44 Magnum only launch ear-splitting earth-shattering rounds, any more so than a .357 Magnum, for that matter. Yes, my .357M cases are quite wimpy as well. I got my fill of big bangs/super recoils with my .454 Casull SRH years ago.

For HD, you can't beat the Speer #4427 200gr Gold Dot - made to open by 800 fps. In CCI Blazer Al .44 Special cases or new Starline brass from GA Arms ($43.50/100), it beats that from my 2.5" 296 - makes 870+ fps from my 4" 629. It has a decent track record. In the picture below I have depicted a 240gr LSWC in .44 Russian, a 200gr GDHP in .44 Special, a 300gr LSWC in .44 Magnum, which makes 890 fps from a 4" 629, and a Magtech 240gr SJSP in .44 Magnum - 1,180 fps from a 4" 629. The HKS Speedloader has the GA Arms 200gr GDHP's in .44 Special loaded. The 6" 629 has a longer sight radius - the 4" 'points' more quickly. Forgive the poor pix!

Stainz

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/IMG_0214.jpg

Surefire
April 27, 2007, 08:01 PM
Get both!

They're both great guns.

When the Redhawk is loaded with a hot .44 Special round like Cor Bon's load, it gives greater than normal power for a .44 special, but still has significantly less recoil and penetration than a .44 magnum.

The GP 100's grips are so fantastic that even the hotest .357 magnum loads (such as Bor Bon's black bear loads) feel mild IMO.

Can't go wrong with either.

The only disadvantage of the Redhawk is ammo price. Both .44 magnum and .44 special are sky high in my area.

vanilla_gorilla
April 27, 2007, 08:10 PM
kjeff50cal, is that gun parked? That's a good looking piece. Not a fan of rubber grips, but it's still good looking.

Gaucho Gringo
April 28, 2007, 12:19 AM
if you are looking at .357 & Taurus and if you want a SAA clone try a Taurus Gaucho in 357/38. I have one and I love it. Good looking, 4 click hammer, smooth trigger action and accurate. Whatever I point it at, I hit. Also comes in .45 Long Colt. It is my all purpose gun, fun and cheap shooting but also my home SD gun loaded with SWC along with my H&R 12 ga0 shotgun.

TSK1975
April 28, 2007, 02:38 AM
I have a S&W Model 66 that I absolutely love to shoot. It's SS with a 4 inch barrel and a Hogue rubber grip. It is an old State Trooper duty gun. I traded a Browning shotgun to get it and a bunch of ammo, kind of a dream gun. It is a pleasure to shoot with just about any ammo available. It's had a trigger job, which is awsome. It's one of the best I have used. I owned a Ruger Blackhawk in 44 Mag for about a year. I liked it, but nothing like the S&W. I never thought the 44 was horrible to shoot, but the 357 is so much easier. I can shoot it all day and not be sore from it. Plus you still get the Magnum ammo versus Special ammo advantage with the 357. The other thing that I really like about the 357 is that it fits my hand. I have smaller hands for a guy and have always had problems with grip size. The grip size of many hand guns have limited what I like and own.

kjeff50cal
April 28, 2007, 03:00 AM
kjeff50cal, is that gun parked? That's a good looking piece. Not a fan of rubber grips, but it's still good looking.

Yes it is and the guy who did it did not inpair the silky smooth action one wit. The double action pull hovers around 7 lbs and the single action at 2 lbs.

constant43
April 28, 2007, 03:23 AM
I was wondering if anyone has or knows of someone who has a speed six/security six Ruger in a 9MM caliber. I'm looking to buy one barrel lenth not important condition must be at least good or better. If you have some info please email me with same at constant43@aol.com... Thank-you so very much for any help you can give me Larry

GTSteve03
April 28, 2007, 11:05 PM
Thanks so much for the replies and votes, everyone!

I went to the range today (always a fun time) and got some time in with my Ruger SP101 and my Glock 21. I have to say, with the new Hogue grips on the SP101, even shooting CorBon .357 Magnums were fun! :evil: I actually shot the gun very well and I am again impressed with this little bundle of firepower.

Now, the dilemma is that I shot my Glock spectacularly. I think it found this thread and realized it might be getting replaced and is making it hard on me! I really am continually surprised at how easy the .45ACP round is to shoot. Perhaps I will have to find myself a revolver in this caliber instead of a .44. I really just don't know. That new Redhawk is just calling my name, even though I know the most logical choice would be to just get a GP100 and share ammo with my SP101.

Ahh, decisions! :p

Hook686
April 29, 2007, 04:23 AM
I have, in .357 magnum a 4" 686 and a 5" 627PC;

In .44 magnum I have a 629, 6-1/2" Classic, a 629 Light Hunter and a 327PD.

Of those, the 327PD takes first place because:

-It is lighter than any of the others, and carries easier.

-The .44 magnum can do anything the .357 magnum can, plus a lot more, if needed.

ArchAngelCD
April 29, 2007, 05:49 AM
GTSteve03,
Buying a 4" GP100 isn't a bad idea at all. Like you said, you can stock only 1 caliber of ammo for both your revolvers. You can buy the wooden inserts for your SP101 stock grips and have both revolver look alike and have a matched pair. LOL http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAAccView?acc=1201&type=Revolver&side=Grips&RE=Y

wizard of oz
April 29, 2007, 06:10 AM
I think a revolver in .357 is an ideal bedside table/home defense handgun. For target shooting a longer barrel than 4 inches is more desireable.

My answer was to get a s&w 627 - .357, 5inch barrel and 8 shots :evil:

wilson
April 29, 2007, 10:54 AM
I voted 357 i have three of them. I think its more than enough gun.

tipoc
April 29, 2007, 03:05 PM
As you already have a .38/.357 go for the .44. .44 Special is an excellent choice for home self defense and there are a good number of commercial loads available for it. Excellent round, very shootable.

tipoc

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