[12 Volt Man]

cslinger posted this in the general discussion. I thought it was worth mentioning here.................... Let me know if you find them :DIn case it matters to anybody Wally World is now selling 100 round bulk packs of 230 grain .45 ACP FMJ USA ammo. I kept hearing rumors of .40 S&W bulk packs but .45 ACP threw me for a loop. Anyway it is $19.97 per 100 rounds. That is pretty cheap for factory .45 ammo. Hope this brings joy to some of your days.

[Bren]

Not bad, the 9mm is pretty good but I do prefer shooting copper. I'll stop by and see if they have any in my area. Thanks Bren

[falconer]

sweeeeeeet.

I buy my 9mm at wally world and I hate going elsewhere to buy .45 (when I don't have time to load some myself). Its usually $15/50 there.

[10-Ring]

How is the quality of USA ammo? Is it worth keeping an eye out for the stuff?:confused:

[1911Tuner]

The ammo is good. Winchester white box .45 is true
hardball-spec. The brass is also very good, and will
last for many reloads.

Shoot Straight!
Tuner

[chaim]

Sweet!!! I just now saw this thread. I'm otta here. I'll see you guys in about 30min. I'm on my way to Walmart now!

[George Hill]

Awesome.

[Jeff C]

Hello,

As luck would have it, I just got back from Walmart and decided to do the internet thing.

My local Walmart had the usual 9mm value packs, and right below them on the shelf they also had both .45 & .40 S&W on the shelf. If I remember the prices correctly they were as follows...

.45 $19.97 for 100 rounds.
.40 $20.97 for 100 rounds.

The .45 was 230 grain, but I didn't notice what weight the .40 was...I don't own a .40...yet. :)


Good shooting,
Jeff C.

[Monkey White]

Monkey was very happy for awhile, Monkey called all the WallMart store around here. "NO, WE DONT HAVE IT" was dah answer for MONKEY, Quess they dont sell bulk ammo here.

[Erich]

I appreciate the heads-up! I've sure shot a pile of their 9mm.

I probably don't need any for a while, though: my wife tells me that my newest case of Blazer .45 from Natchez ($7.80 a box this month) just arrived. Gonna be a fun weekend!

[iamkris]

Me like way Monkey talk

[chaim]

I couldn't find it at the local Walmart and was told that no Walmart in the US should have it yet. The guy told me they are one of the first to get anything new Walmart carries and they don't expect it until a month or two from now at the earliest.:rolleyes: Maybe he should talk to a few guys here. When I get a chance I'll try a few other nearby Walmarts.

[stretcharmstrong]

I have found the 100 pk 9mm at Sport's Authority as well. May be worth a look there for the .45 too.

Nice to have a cheap local source for .45. Will have to check when I get a chance.

[vertigo7]

My local Wal-Mart has ordered 9mm ammo by the case (1000rds) for me in the past. I guess it's time to go order a case of .45ACP and take my USP to the range this weekend. :D

vertigo7

[falconer]

I took 2 people to the range to shoot tonight for the first time. So I was definately in need of ammo. The walmart I went to here in Columbus had the 9mnm, .40 and .45 value packs. The .40sw ammo was 165 grain.

The valuepack .45 ammo was pretty good quality. It definately shoots better than the UMC also sold at walmart for $15/50.

This stuff will definately do for those times when I don't have any reloads stockpiled. Now if they'd just drop the price down to like $17/100 I'd be a happy camper.

[WhoKnowsWho]

Dangit, my Wal-Mart doesn't even have the 9mm value packs 90% of the time. Never seen the .40 pack, should I even bother trying for the .45 pack? :cuss:

And my Sports Authority is so far away, I might as well pay for shipping since gas is so expensive.

[Skunkabilly]

Just what I need...an excuse to buy a .45.... :o

i haven't heard of or seen the stuff...April Fool's in June?

[blue86buick]

I just saw the boxes of .45ACP and .40S&W tonight at my local wally. $19.97 for the .45, and $14.96 for the .40, and as usual $10.96 for the 9mm. The .45 is copper jacketed, the .40 is brass (like the 9mm). I was told it's no problem to order a case at a time, just gotta talk to the sporting goods manager.

Also have started to see the 9mm packs for 10.96 (sometimes 1-2 bucks more) at other stores than walmart. This is really making me wish I had more than .22's. Next thing we need is .380ACP in the 100 pack. :D

[Aahzz]

I gotta go to Walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so excited....

[foghornl]

Hmmmm

Hafta check the Wally Worlds near me this weekend... $20 or $21/100 of .45ACP ain't bad.

Have shot some of the USA brand stuff in both my Ruger KP-90 and Springfield Champion 1911-A1. Works as advertised in both.

[blue86buick]

what's "USA brand"? the bulk packs are the Winchester White Box just like the 9mm...am i missing a clue here?

[Double Naught Spy]

100=Bulk? That is too funny!

[cslinger]

Winchester White box is Winchester USA ammo. It says it in the logo.

Chris

[davidtdm]

I'm doing the happy dance:D :D :D

I didn't get any funy looks or comments from the counter folks this time either. I don't even have a .40 anymore and I still bought the value pack:D

http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/002626.jpg

I see some fun time at the range this weekend:D

...Dave

[12 Volt Man]

Thanks to Dave for the "photo proof".

[iamkris]

You guys are lucky. Here in the northern suburbs of the Peoples Rupublik of Chicago, soccer moms have completely taken over and Wal-Mart's/Sportmarts don't handle stuff like this anymore. ALL ammo, firearms, etc are gone. When I asked, they said it was done for business reasons...few people bought and some complained.

Another step toward they wussification of America.

[10-Ring]

Cool, Winchester value packs in 45 acp :cool:
Time for an ammo run!

[blue86buick]

davidtdm: only thing i could've suggested would have been to have one of each shell sitting out, so people can see that the 9 and .40 are brass, the .45 is copper, and that the .40 has the flat tip.

Doesn't it say "Made in USA"? I wouldn't call that "USA brand", i'd say WWB. Unless you refer to Wolf as "russian brand". Oh well, just my opinion.

[Mike Irwin]

"9 and .40 are brass, the .45 is copper..."


Uh, no, the .45 is also brass.

Copper hasn't been used for anything other than rimfire cases for 100 years or more.

[Jeff C]

I used to get the run around at my local Walmart when looking for the value packs.

I finally met the lady that does ALL of the ordering for sporting goods. She said that if I know I will need a certain quantity of any ammo to just give her a call and she would make sure they had enough on hand for me. She said they get the ammo 2-3 days after they place the order.

She also said that she was more than happy to order it in anytime I needed some. I asked if I could get any further price break if I ordered case amounts...no go. She did give me a card with her name and number on it.

I believe that they (Walmart) don't want to sit on ammo that won't move so some stores don't order it. I would (and did) find out WHO does the ordering at your local store, and tell them that you want to buy (insert amount) rounds per week/month. They do have to order by case amount so they may not want to sit on 900 rounds because one person wanted one box.

I always buy at least 3-4 boxes each trip, but now that they have .45 value boxes I'm going to have to bring more money to Walmart. It's going to end up costing me $100.00 each trip to the store, but I'll end up with 6-700 rounds of ammo so I'm happy.

Good shooting,
Jeff C.

[blue86buick]

"9 and .40 are brass, the .45 is copper..."


Uh, no, the .45 is also brass.

Copper hasn't been used for anything other than rimfire cases for 100 years or more.
Sorry, I meant the FMJ on the bullet. At least it looks like brass....it's the same color as the casing, wheras the .45 is definitly copper colored. Maybe the 9mm and .40 are brass plated copper. :confused:

[Mike Irwin]

Well, they're all jacketed with guilding metal, but there can be a lot of color variations with guilding metal.

The jackets definitely aren't copper.

[Erich]

blue86buick,

Winchester has called this stuff "USA" brand since it came out with it in the '80s. They still call it that:

http://www.winchester.com/ammunition/store/cfhlist.aspx?cartlist=bm9uZQ==&uselist=none&brandlist=5&bullettype=none

This includes the "Value Packs":

http://www.winchester.com/ammunition/store/cfhproductsheet.aspx?symbol=USA9MMVP&qrystr=Y2FydGxpc3QrQUQwLWJtOXVaUStBQ1UtM2QrQUNVLTNkK0FDWS11c2VsaXN0K0FEMC1ub25lK0FDWS1icmFuZGxpc3QrQUQwLTUrQUNZLWJ1bGxldHR5cGUrQUQwLW5vbmU=

Since that's what we've all been calling it for years, and since that's what Olin calls it, hey, good enough for me! :)

[Skunkabilly]

Um wait...lemme look for it...I left it in my Camelbak some where...[rummaging]...oh..here it is:

REEEEHAWWWW!!!!

[WhoKnowsWho]

I'm a dumbass, I don't know why I am worried about the Wally World stuff when one of the shops I frequent sells the normal Winchester Whitebox .45 for 9.99 a box and 179.99 a case... :D

[rick newland]

I have a real stupid question to ask. I have been stationed overseas for the past 20 years and never heard of Wally World. (use to love germany) I have nine 1911's to be kept fed. Is Wally World a store of it's own or a nickname for Walmart? thanks.

[cslinger]

There are no stupid questions.
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Only stupid people.:D Just kidding, no offense, just joking.

We were just talking about Walmart. You have 9 1911s!? Wow you are my hero. Lots of .45 to feed.

Chris

[chaim]

Hmmm, I just noticed something. It seems that just about everyone with a location listed who has found the .40 and .45 value packs are in Ohio or Tennessee (and those in OH seem to be in or around Cincinnati). They are close enough that maybe they are distributed out of the same location. Anyone here whose local Walmart has the stuff yet live anywhere other than TN, KY or southern OH? If not I guess I'll wait a few months before I waste too much time looking for the stuff.

[seeker_two]

Just what I need...an excuse to buy a .45....

Skunk: There's no excuse for NOT owning at least one .45. In many parts of Texas, it's mandatory...:cool:

Looks like I've got an alternative to my S&B and UMC ball ammo needs now... :D :D :D

[Quack]

sounds great if i run out of my S&B, but i usually buy cases at gunshows which are $9.00/50.

[12 Volt Man]

I won't be able to check and see if the Utah stores have it till Friday.

[DigMe]

Hmmm, I just noticed something. It seems that just about everyone with a location listed who has found the .40 and .45 value packs are in Ohio or Tennessee (and those in OH seem to be in or around Cincinnati). They are close enough that maybe they are distributed out of the same location. Anyone here whose local Walmart has the stuff yet live anywhere other than TN, KY or southern OH? If not I guess I'll wait a few months before I waste too much time looking for the stuff.

I have a reliable source that tells me there are currently 5 .40 value boxes in transit to a certain TX Wal-Mart. Didn't look into the .45s but it wouldn't surprise me if those were on the way too.

brad cook

[Bowlcut]

Ok i think i know what im doing....buying a value pack or two to shoot though others guns....like cslingers :). now which caliber to choose :D

[blue86buick]

oh whoops, guess it doesn't show my location (yet). I'm in Cedar Rapids, IA, and they had the 100pks of .40 and .45.

Erich: Ok, USA it is! :D

[stretcharmstrong]

Well, I made it to the Sport's Authority today in Bowie, MD. They do have the 100 pack 9mm's in stock but no .40 S&W or .45 ACP. Also, their price for the 9mm seemed high...$11.49? Wally world I believe is about a $1 cheaper.

[blue86buick]

typically $10.96. Some of my local stores now sell it too, at that price even.

[CZ-100]

I have a real stupid question to ask. I have been stationed overseas for the past 20 years and never heard of Wally World. (use to love germany) I have nine 1911's to be kept fed. Is Wally World a store of it's own or a nickname for Walmart? thanks.

Rick Wally World = Wal-Mart

[Ringer]

Anyone here whose local Walmart has the stuff yet live anywhere other than TN, KY or southern OH?

chaim

Not that it is all that far from where you mention, but the .45 100 packs are available in Michigan for $19.97.

[Al Thompson]

Just checked, none (yet) in Columbia South Carolina.

[Kharn]

I visited the Lexington Park, MD store and snagged 3 boxes at $19.97 each (the sales lady said there was a lot in the back of the display case, but I couldnt see exactly how many due to the angles), but the register brought up a message along the lines of 'Over Flr Limit, approve?' when the clerk scanned all three. She didnt know what that meant and thought it was my credit card (which took like 2 minutes to approve, we were having internet problems at my work all day) being over the limit, but I'm no where close. I guess the max is one or two value-packs per customer.
They also had .40, but I didnt see any 9mm value packs.

This is also one of the Super Walmarts, with an eye doctor, pharmacy, etc; I think their manager's pretty gun friendly (or at least realizes being 5 miles from a Naval base means he could sell lots of guns & ammo) because the gun and ammo displays are always 100% stocked unlike the Walmart near my house where 50% of the time you gotta wait for stuff to be brought out from the back.

Kharn

[chaim]

Hmm, I guess if I don't see it anywhere closer soon I'll have to take a day trip to Lexington Park. I think I can justify the 2hr drive- school is pretty much out so I won't be working (substitute teacher) so maybe I'll head up to St. Mary's to do some fishing on Church Point and Lexington Park is on the way.:D Hey I've always liked it down there and haven't visited since I had friends at St. Mary's College and I've just been searching for an excuse to take a fishing trip down there.

[Sven]

Hard to find folks at the gun counter at Wal-Mart here in California. See... uh... Wal-Mart employees made a few _mistakes_ in paperwork and such and... now Wal-Mart sells no shotguns or rifles anymore. Nada.

The sign posted said that their employees were taking classes to learn the process... like they will be back - typical Public Relations bull kaka ... the "MAN" just won another one here in California, land of the fruits and nuts (and some pro-rkba types, too).

IF YOU AREN'T OUTRAGED
YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION

[B Coyote]

Michigan City, Indiana's WalMart also has the new Value Packs. :)

I reload .45's....but the .40 will be nice. I was paying $8.96/50 before. A couple bucks is a couple bucks. ;)

bc:)

[Kharn]

Chaim: If you're coming down Route 2/4, hit the Prince Frederick Walmart, they might have a few boxes and could save you 40 minutes of driving. Or, call all the stores (walmart.com has a store locator, call'em and ask for sporting goods), I always call ahead when I'm looking for a gun so that I dont end up driving all over the place to get to a store that doesnt have one in stock.

Kharn

[Aahzz]

They're here in CT, at least at the Derby Wal-Mart. Woo-hoo!

[tommytrauma]

Just bought a .45 fun pack in the Madison WI wallyworld.

[chaim]

OK, I went to the Walmart in Ellicott City MD and they now have them (the one that told me that since they don't have them no one should and they won't for some time). This time I actually got someone who seemed to know the gun counter. They just got in 4 boxes (I don't know if that means yesterday or today, I know it is no earlier since I was there Wen) and I bought 2 of them today.

[Pumpkinheaver]

I'll be looking for some as soon as I get home from vacation!

[joenuclear]

Does anyone have the UPC for the 100 packs?

[Kharn]

The bottom of one of my .45acp boxes says: 0 20892 21416 3
I hit the range today, fired about 90 rounds of the stuff, but cant really say how accurate it is at this time (my girlfriend, my brother and I are all pistol newbies and we were all over the paper with both the Winchester and my usual PMP load, which is normal for us), but it did feed, fire and extract fine in my two 1911s.

Kharn

[farscott]

The UPC for the 9x19 Value Pack is 002089221297, the UPC for .40 S&W is 002089221365, and the UPC for .45 ACP is 002089221416. This information came from my Wal-Mart receipt.

[DigMe]

Just bought my .40 S&W value pack from the Temple, TX Wal-Mart today. Good buy. Now we'll have to see how it shoots. They also have the .45 and 9mm ammo for anyone in this area who's interested.

brad cook

[12 Volt Man]

Got some today (Saturday) from the Layton Wal Mart here in Utah. I took the last box of .45 ACP and I didn't see any .40.

[Byron Quick]

I bought 2 of the .45ACP "bulk" packs in Waynesboro, Georgia on Friday. The 9mm, .40S&W, and .45 ACP were all in stock.

[Greybeard]

Rick - Re: "Is Wally World a store of it's own or a nickname for Walmart?" Don't feel lonesome in asking that question. I was a little slow in responding to a newbe lady's e-mail on that a while back and she did an internet search in the meantime. And came up with a gay porn web site! :what:

[Cameron Lamont]

Just picked up some .40 and 9mm today from the local Walmart.

$14.97 for the .40
$10.96 for the 9mm

They also had the .45 in stock.


Cameron

[Walther P99]

Thanks! Read this thread, went to Wal-mart and just picked up 2 boxes of .45 ACP. They said they just got them in this week. :cool:

[denfoote]

I'm still waiting for them to get to Arizona!! Which is odd, because the town I live in is also home to the southwestern Walmart distribution center!! :rolleyes:

[sm]

I"ll have to check here. Since I hate to shop I usually just send someone. Now I have gone to Sports Authority and the price was the same-or less, for the value pk of 9mm. Seems as if my local SA likes give Wally a fit by meeting their price. He actually called once in my presence and cut the price .50 less than WW;)

I'd rather just run in and out and avoid the crowd/parking.

So I'd suggest others check with their local SA and see if they'll do the same. If its closer and you hate to shop like me.

[DigMe]

"Is Wally World a store of it's own or a nickname for Walmart?" Don't feel lonesome in asking that question. I was a little slow in responding to a newbe lady's e-mail on that a while back and she did an internet search in the meantime. And came up with a gay porn web site!

You mean they don't sell ammo? :uhoh:

brad cook

[garrettwc]

The UPC for the 9x19 Value Pack is 002089221297, the UPC for .40 S&W is 002089221365, and the UPC for .45 ACP is 002089221416. This information came from my Wal-Mart receipt.

ROTFL. That is a thread all in itself. What's on your receipt today?:D

Mine read similar, except no 40 cal and add burgers, charcoal, and sodas to the end. (Shooters gotta eat)

Confirmed sighting(purchase) in the Louisville, KY metro area. I got some of the 45 yesterday. They also had the usual 9mm and 40.

As a side note, this must really be digging into Remington's business. My local gun shop has UMC 100rd value packs (same starburst in the corner of the box even). Price isn't as good as the Winchester though.

[Reason]

The Wal-Marts in the Salt Lake Valley do have them. 5 boxes at both of the stores I visited.

Well, uh, not anymore. :)

[chaim]

Cool guys, lets keep buying it up so they'll keep packaging it this way. Maybe we should start an email campaign to get some value-packs in revolver calibers as well. :D

BTW, I looked at the rounds and they look like the "regular" Win White Box stuff in .45acp. In the 9mm value packs the rounds are packaged loose, the bullet is a slightly different shape than the regular White Box stuff and the jacket is a brass color instead of copper color. The .45acp value pack rounds are the same shape and color as the regular stuff and instead of being packaged loose like the 9mm value pack it was packed in two 50 round trays like the 50 round boxes.

[Black_Talon]

None of the Walmarts around me have it. I'm in Southern Kalifornistan.

[BryanP]

Cool guys, lets keep buying it up so they'll keep packaging it this way. Maybe we should start an email campaign to get some value-packs in revolver calibers as well.

Ooh, yeah. If only they made / carried value packs of .357 magnum I might change my low opinion of Wal Mart.

[Al Thompson]

Just found the value packs tonight at Wal-Mart. Harbison Blvd has 8 boxes left for those in Columbia. :)

I'll run some through my Kimber in the morning and report. For some reason my Kimber is not fond of 230 hardball.

[Jeff]

For some reason my Kimber is not fond of 230 hardball.


A .45 auto not fond of 230 balls is like a major league shortstop not fond of grounders hit his way.

[Al Thompson]

:confused: "Not fond of" means that I get better groups with JHPs or 200 gr LSWCs.

[Jeff]

Oh.

Sorry. :)

[Intune]

200 rnds .45, 200 rnds .40 and 550 rnds of .22. Counter guy said they were flying out the door. He didn't know if they were getting more.

[Al Thompson]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=343553#post343553

[mlucius]

Hudson NH Wal-Mart had piles of the 100rd packs yesterday evening. Now I just need to justify a .45 to my wife!

[Lexter]

I just grabbed the last 2 packs at Wally World in Conway, SC. Maybe I should take advantage of covering a 3 state territory and clean-out the Wally World ammo! I think the wife would have a problem w/ that.

Lexter in NC

[Grayrock]

Walther P99: which one did you find them at? I'm not too far from you. The one near me is being remodeled and no one seems to know much in the ammo section.

[shooting4fun]

G'day denfoote and et al.,

I picked up a couple of those bulk target packs in 45 ACP at the SV AZ Wally World last week. Got out to range late in the weekend to try them out in several of my launchers. Shoot great, less costly! Two thumbs up! Brass appears to be good for a few reload cycles. As clean as the 9x19mm target loads from Winchester. Consistency is pretty good too!

In my case, I had to be assertive with the Wally World associate. When I inquired about the target packs, I got the deer in the head lights look. I asked him to open the case where the 9x19 bulk packs were and then there right next to the 40 SW was a large hole with the shelf tag. The ole guy was going to put a good moan and groan to bend all the way down, stick his arm way back there to lift those heavy boxes...... It did take a bit of persuasion to get the transaction going and completed.

It would have been simplier if I could just go back there and get them myself but that would probably be considered bad form by Wally World mgmt. Hey, at least now I'm not so concerned about finding a way to replace all that brass I'm losing at these local pistol matches!

Best of luck to you and others getting this ammo! Cheers!

[Black_Talon]

My local SoKal Walmart finally got this ammo in stock this morning. I was lucky enough to be there just as they were unpacking the boxes and grabbed all the 45acp (2 cases) that they had. The Sporting Goods Manager told me that it's a "warehouse item" which means that it's not regularly stocked but can be ordered and will arrive in 2-3 days. As I was leaving I asked him to please order more. :)

[Walther P99]

Grayrock: I went to the one at 1604 & Nacogdoches (FM 2252). The people at this one seem fairly knowledgable.

[Grayrock]

Thanks, Walther P99.

Good shooting.

[BryanP]

Well, the Wal Mart's in my area (Nashville TN and surrounding) seem to have them but not in quantity. I haven't found more than 2 boxes at any one store. When I asked the kid behind the counter he said he couldn't order more because he isn't a manager and didn't know if they were getting more. So I asked him to ask his manager to order more. Don't forget people, Wal Mart is there to make money and lots of it. If we buy them out and ask for more, they'll get more.

[Selfdfenz]

Hit one of my local WMs yesterday but they had only 2 boxes. I got them.
Came home and inspected them.

Like the 9mm BP the primers are different shades. The 9mm is otherwise cosmetically beauty but the 45 has some variation. Some slugs have rings around them. Some are perfect.

Makes no diff to me at the price. It's a pretty good deal if you reload.
Now I can get 9mm and 45 bulk packs at the same shop. Good news. Not too sure it makes sense paying the shipping or the admission to a gunshow anymore if buying these cals is the reason. WM is less of a drive and I only have to pay sales tax and OTD.
Thanks to the original THR members that posted the alert.
S-

[VaughnT]

If you're in the Greenville area, you can get 100rnd packs at WM Woodruff Rd and Hwy 29 Taylors. A call to WM Whitehorse Rd showed nothing in stock but 9mm, but the guy I spoke to went through the trouble to call the other stores and inquire for me (very thoughtful/professional/impressive). I bought two of the three boxes at Woodruff Rd and will be back as soon as their next shipment comes in.

$10/50rnd is as good as I got at the last gunshow where I bought 1000rnd for $212 from Georgia Arms. And while some on-line suppliers sell a case for $180-200, shipping costs boost the final figure to around the same as you could get locally at Wal-Mart.

The funniest thing is that joker down in Greenwood offering to sell me a case of Blazer 230g FMJ for $190! That guy sucks...big.

[Grayrock]

Anyone know how the Wolf brand ammo compares to the Winchester whitebox? Both are 230 grain FMJ. Sportsman's Guide has Wolf .45 ACP for $45.96 for 250. With shipping and handling it comes out to $18.38 per 100. That saves $3.24 per 100 compared to WallyWorld and it comes to my door. I just have to wait a little longer to get it.

[Reason]

Stay away from Wolf.

Stay far away...

[Selfdfenz]

The main comments I read here relate to the fact Wolf has a steel case and may cause a bit of accelerated wear on the extractor and ejector. Maybe the chamber too.
I don't know if the 45 acp is laquered but some of their rifle ammo is and some THRers have reported problems with the coating building up in the chamber under certain conditions in some rifles. AK owners do not report this problem.

All I can say for sure is the powder the Russians load into their Woldf ammo is stinky IMO having been around people at the range that were shooting it.
There sure seems to be an aweful lot of Wolf empties on the ground at the ranges I go to so some people must like it pretty well.

Good luck

S-

[seeker_two]

I.R. Wolf Ammo: You'll never have to worry about using the words "accurate" or "clean-burning" to describe it. It's almost like shooting black powder through my 1911 when I last tried the .45ACP. While I have a Ruger 9mm which will shoot anything, I'm still not going to try Wolf in it.

S&B, Winchester, or UMC is a much better choice...

[WhoKnowsWho]

Finally in the farthest Wal Mart from me, but still technically in town. And less tax out there... so I guess it is out of the city... And they had some clearance .38 Spec Hydra Shoks. I wonder why they are on clearance? And thanks to low price and less tax, best non online and non gun show option there is.

That's all I got at Wal Mart though, I did the rest of my shopping at Best Buy, Le Femme Nikita and Terminator Special Edition, woo hoo.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=356275